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hello my name is matthias Iam 23 and from austria, my girlfriend sabrina is 22

we are both stundents of chögyal namkhai norbu rinpoche, and tengy rinpoche

we want to visit wangdor rinpoche and ontül rinpoche in tso pema, rewalsar. we plan this trip for some time now...
but something new and unexpacted happened...

sabrina may be pregnant, its not sure but almost and she still wants to do this trip..

I talked with her for a long time, and we still talk about it, and she is very clear about this, it is not running away I guess, we just want a time out, practice the dharma and take care of the child in a healthy spiritual enviroment, I think we will come back after one or two years..

there are several problems

number 1 visa

number 2 she wants to get the baby there

anyway I want to help her as much as possible with this wish, because I think that it is really not a stupid thing, because we would have time for us....the money is almost checked we will ahve 200€ or more every month, and we have arround 6000€ for the start, and i think we will have the opportunity to work in the sangha in tso pema and get accomodation + food a little cheaper there..

ok thats all I know till now..i want to gather informations and check wha tis possible and what not..

we also know where we go when we return, and when it is not working we also have a place to stay...so we will survive austria without problems, the only problem that will face us here is time and money...I mean when we return this problem is still there but maybe we have a stonger bond and relationship more inenr strenght to deal with it..and more love..

hope I get some help here

greetings
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Originally Posted by matthias123 View Post there are several problems

number 1 visa
What is the problem with the visa? If your girlfriend is pregnant she does not need one and a half visas!

You say you are studying, if you become students of an accredited Indian educational establishment, you can get a student visa which means you can stay in India for a long time, even years. However these visas are usually single entry, so if either of you leave India to visit home, which you may want to do if she has a baby in India, you'll need a new visa. Student visas can be changed to double entry in Delhi, but could she continue her studies when heavily pregnant / just after giving birth?

Tourist visas would give you more flexibility but you are unlikely to get more than six months at a time. To get another six months you'd have to travel outside India, depending on how pregnant your girlfriend is, this might not be possible.

When the baby arrives, you cannot take it out of India country straight away, you have to visit your Embassy to get a passport for the baby, then get an exit visa from the Indian authorities, this all takes time.
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in austria there is a visa type called entry visa...

embassy text:

Entry Visa
For all other purposes, Entry Visa can be obtained, depending on the purpose of visit, eligibility, on a case by case basis.

student visa will be hard to get so fast...because traveling in the fist 3 month of pregnancy is not good...and so time goes bye very fast..

but this entry visa could work out.
in other countrys like sweden, america, australia etc. there is somehting called a yoga-visa that can last for 1 year open to 5 years, like the student visa...and I think that this visa type is part of the entry visa here in austria, because I guess we would fall into this category

man sounds like a kafka narration to me...

and then the question is: will they let us enter india if they know that we want to give birth to our baby there?

anyway thank you for hte answer...and I hope you stay a little bit in this thread...for brainhurricaning with me

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They will not worry about the baby --- but you will have to go through some bureaucracy before taking the baby home. You can find other threads here in which people who have given birth here explain what is needed.
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Mathias, if you still get the visa directly from the Indian embassy/consulate in Austria, I'd suggest to apply and if it's not working you can inquire directly at the front desk what kind of visa would be the right one for your purpose. Be friendly and persistent

In general entry visas for longer duration (more than 6 months) are not given easily. And don't say you're planning to work there, you're going to volunteer if you're just getting a cheaper accommodation.

Regarding pregnancy: Have you ever been to India? If not, I'd say keep a door open to return easily if things won't workout like you're expecting them. Caring for oneself is one thing, caring for a baby is something different, and every baby is different. You simply can't predict how it will be, and it's better to have several options open.
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Originally Posted by matthias123 View Post in other countrys like sweden, america, australia etc. there is somehting called a yoga-visa that can last for 1 year open to 5 years, like the student visa...
What is called a "yoga visa" on some websites is not a separate visa category, it is actually just an entry visa.

Good luck persuading them to give you a long term one.

Generally speaking, if it seems that people are applying for a visa just because they want to "move to" India, rather than to visit for a specific and time limited purpose (eg take a course, have a holiday, conduct some business, take up a job offer) applications are refused.
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matthias, given this is your/her first trip to India & she's pregnant, this mum of 2 strongly urges you to reconsider this whole moving there while pregnant, and studying/volunteering, then giving birth there plan.

Take a short trip as a tourist and look around. I have. And let's just say I wouldn't do what you are contemplating.

All this of course becomes moot if you can only get a 6-mo visa. No matter the visa option, if I was your mom I'd tell you both to visit India as a tourist, then go back, have your baby, and visit India again for another few months
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Originally Posted by namaste_cat View Post matthias, given this is your/her first trip to India
Hadn't realised that Matthias and / or his girlfriend had not even visited India before making these plans!

Matthias, I have always strongly advised people who are taking lucrative employment contracts, people who will have advantage of the complete expat lifestyle with drivers, gardeners, security guards, nannies, housekeepers, cooks, the lot, to visit India before thinking of moving there.

How can I put this nicely... I can't. The idea that you'd consider living in India for any length of time on your very limited means, AND starting your family there, without having the first idea what you'd be letting yourself in for is frankly crazy.

As for your studies, and the "healthy spiritual environment" you seek, I will not advise. One thing I will say is that I have seen a lot of posts on here from people who, after spending a lot of time at spiritual centres have left sadly disillusioned by the reality they have found, as it compared to their expectations. No doubt you think you know what you are doing, but not all of these people were gullible idiots.
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hello dear people..

as for now we talkedand thought about this all, and we will fly to india when the baby is old enough. with a tourist visa...

anyway sabrina is not pregnant...

but if she would have been the thing is that throwing away all plans and all wishes just because of a baby is not the best thing for hte psyche I guess...we would not wander then, and visit many teachers you see, but we would went there

and my first teachers where both from england and one lifes now in nepal, and I told him about my plans, and the only thing he said was "what are oyu waiting for?" I mean this was not just a gossip talk, my hair stood straight in this moment..

and he flyed oneway when he was twenties without much more money and he still lifes there...

of course there is always the possbility to come back dissillusioned...but if you feel to do this then you should try...and all people I have met who did this where deeply happy, not like the majority of people I meet here in austria and europe...I mean happy to the bone, relaxed and carefree...

and they also told us where to go and whom we should visit, so this is more or less not a problem...

thank you for the time

good bye
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Wow, in that case it's lucky you didn't get her up the duff after all!
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Originally Posted by matthias123 View Post and they also told us where to go and whom we should visit, so this is more or less not a problem...
Matthias, that's good. hopefully you can go visit and see if reality matches up with what it's been built up for you. Have a great trip!
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matthias

You have been given a wonderful opportunity now to visit India and see it before you leap into something longterm. Definitely take advantage of all the things that were suggested to you.

It's very easy for someone else to say "what are you waiting for." Unless they are ready to fix any problems that you find, it's just talk. They have nothing to lose. We each have to find what suits us and you & your girlfriend can now go and have your own experience.

It's lovely to be inspired by someone you trust, that "he flew away in his 20s" but you are not him and you will find your own way. Times have greatly changed since that person did that (I'm imagining this person to have done this many years ago).

Go to India and have a great experience all your own!

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