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i have a friend in corbett who recommends i go this summer to the following three tals - sat tal, naukuchia tal and damyanti tal - but not to naini tal which he claims is completely over run by noisy tourists!

does he speak the truth? what information can i gather about the three tals - hotels, guesthouses, resthouses? my friend didn't have the kind of information i'm looking for - how best to get there even. i'm thinking of a week in each tal. too much? help!
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One week across these is fine - Naini tal is indeed quite commercialized. However, if you go early in the morning or go in off-season, a sight from tiffin-top is still lovely. Of these, Sat tal is the nicest, perhaps worth two days and there are birds, still, as of this year. I do not know about rest-houses in the area, google is your friend. If you have three full weeks, why not further afield in Uttarakhand - binsar, munsiyari, etc?

kmalik and jitu are quite familiar with this area, so probably they'd be along shortly.
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thank you, vaibhav, this is very helpful. often, here on indiamike, there will be someone who is super familiar with the lay of the land and is happy to share their wealth of info freely and generously. i'm hoping some such person will come along and fill in the gaps. perhaps kmalik and jitu? :-)
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I do not know if I would call myself familiar with the area anymore. In any case, my knowledge is not comparable to Jitu Yadav - as he lives in the Almora area and has a better sense.

I spent part of my childhood and young adulthood in and around Nainital. Have thought it to be the best place ever for a good part of my life. But, not anymore. It is over developed, over populated and gets an excessive amount of tourists. So, I have now written if off from the list of places to visit. We did a 10 day trip to Kumaun and did not visit. So, that's what I think - though with a sad heart as I loved this town.

I am sure others can chime in - but I'd not encourage visit to Nainital. But - this reflects what things I/we like and dislike. I'd definitely confirm the comment you got from your friend. I cannot speak to the other areas he/she recommended as I am not as familiar with them.

My favorite place to go in Kumaun these days is Munsiyari. Much bigger ask in terms of travel, but real mountain feel - and not as crowded. If you aren't able to afford the time - Binsar (not a town), Ranikhet (Chawbatia Garden) and Almora (even Patal Bhuvneshwar) make a good addition to the Corbett visit.
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thank you, kmalik, this is really helpful information. will bear in mind when making my plans.

my only concern when visiting off the beaten track places is the quality of accommodation i am likely to find. not looking for luxury but a modicum of hygiene and some sense of aesthetics make a huge difference to my stay. okay maybe i am asking for too much...
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You are welcome! There are perfectly good hotels in all of these places. The towns I mentioned are less frequented compared to Nainital but you will hardly find them deserted. If anything, you may find too many tourists - if you end up going in the popular holiday time. I would recommend KMVN properties (http://www.kmvn.gov.in/), and you will find them in each of these places. The link has the phone number of the specific tourist rest house. Not snazzy, but perfectly fine.
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You have plenty of time, so I would think it is a good idea to spend some time in Nainital. Agreed it is commercialized, but it also has the best feel of colonial era, not something you will find in other tals.

Also remember that it is very difficult for city people to be too long away from hustle and bustle, and in my experience, that time can be as low as one day, after which people just want to get away and be at some place where they have something to do, which means all the stuff back home like crowd, market etc.

Go with Vaibhav's and Kamlik's advice, and look at other places like Munsyiari, and some other like Shitlakhet, Ranikhet, Binsar, Kasar devi, Jageshwar, Gwaldam etc which are close by, and go for KMVN stay wherever possible. There are some high and mid range resorts and home stays at many of these places, a google search will bring up many. If you just want to stick to tals, do spend a couple of days at Nainital for sure.
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thank you, kmalik, this is exactly the kind of information i was looking for. if someone has actually stayed in these places (http://www.kmvn.gov.in/) it would be good to know the pros and cons. I wonder if airbnb has arrived in kumaon.
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thank you, jitu, i just saw your post. i have a preference for quiet places (i live in a quiet place in kerala). so not much chance of missing hustle-bustle but i think it makes sense to see naini tal at least for a couple of days. i have childhood memories of watching a rajesh khanna film set there (kati patang) so it'll be fun in a strange sort of way to go boating on the lake there (isn't "tal" a lake in kumaoni?). also i don't want to go from place to place - i find it tiring - but instead pick 2-3 places and spend quality time in each. hence my search for "decent" accommodation - it makes a difference if you are in the same place for a week than if you are there for a night.
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This is not kumaon, but in Garhwal, still on my list - https://www.indiamike.com/india/utta...wal-t158705/4/. It's called syalsaur. The GMVN was swept away partially and rebuilt, but there are birds.

ETA : Also second Jitu's advice re : Kasar Devi. A friend went there recently on a solo trip and was super happy.
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Originally Posted by vaibhav_arora View Post This is not kumaon, but in Garhwal, still on my list - https://www.indiamike.com/india/utta...wal-t158705/4/. It's called syalsaur. The GMVN was swept away partially and rebuilt, but there are birds.

ETA : Also second Jitu's advice re : Kasar Devi. A friend went there recently on a solo trip and was super happy.
"swept away"? sounds alarming!

can't wait to visit this region - my first time!
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Went to Sattal in Nov' 17 and it was completely empty at that time. There were 2 places to stay - Country Inn & I don't remember the other one. The staff at country inn told us that you can even sight wild animals and the security guard had a rifle to scare them off.
Personally, except for the quiteness of the place I did not found it to be enticing - just looked like another lake.

Damyanti Tal is another lake enroute to Sattal - very close by with nothing around.

Never been to Naukuchiyatal but have heard great reviews of the place.

If your intent is to do nothing and just gaze at the lake and the greenery around then go to Sattal.

Munsiyari - beyond doubt take the icing for me as I am more of a mountain person. Interestingly, it has mountains, lake and river all together with amazing views of the mountains.

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munsiyari sounds like a must, as does kasar devi!
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Munsiyari - yes. The only negative is the distance and time it takes to get there.

If going from Corbett - I'd suggest you head straight for Chakori on day 1 (through Ranikhet - around Almora and so on) and Munsiyari from Chakori on day 2. Direct from Corbett to Munsiyari is perhaps not feasible or advisable in one day. Chaokori is good for a night's stay.
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Originally Posted by anar View Post munsiyari sounds like a must, as does kasar devi!
The first one yes, the second one not really.

Jageshwar is a better option to Kasar Devi in the general vicinity.

And, unless (as jituyadav indicated), you must have some urban fix once in a while, avoid Nainital. Or maybe because I am saying this because I have seen the place when not even a cycle was allowed on the Mall road.. only horses. Like Simla.

And avoid Nainital like the plague on weekends or holidays.
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