ICC World Cup 2015 - Australia & New Zealand

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View Poll Results: Who will win the World Cup?
India 11 57.89%
Australia 5 26.32%
New Zealand 2 10.53%
South Africa 1 5.26%
England 0 0%
Pakistan 0 0%
Sri Lanka 0 0%
West Indies 0 0%
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#1 Dec 30th, 2014, 01:01
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Hello IMers

It's that time again!

ICC World Cup begins on 15-Feb-15 with a mouth-watering (or nerve-wracking for Indians & Pakistanis!) clash between India and Pakistan.

Few Quick Facts (will keep adding more as we go along!):

- This is the 11th world cup thus far and the 2nd one to be hosted by Australia & New Zealand.

- The Winners so far:
Australia: Four times (1987, 1999, 2003 and 2007)
West Indies: Twice (1975 & 1979)
India: Twice (1983 & 2011)
Sri Lanka: Once (1996)
Pakistan: Once (1992)

- Participants: 14 nations

- Dates: 14-Feb-15 to 29-Mar-15

- Format: Round-robin & Knockout

- Groups:
Group A: England, Australia, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, New Zealand, Afghanistan & Scotland
Group B: South Africa, India, Pakistan, West Indies, Zimbabwe, Ireland, U.A.E.

- Each team will play 6 matches each in their groups and the top 4 teams will qualify for the quarter-finals which will be the start of the knockout matches!

My take on semi-finals:
- India (my obvious favorites)
- South Africa (my sentimental favorites in the event India doesn’t progress / play them!)
- Australia (barring a few favorite players, I have never liked them)
- New Zealand (they are a surprise package at every WC tournament and strong at home)

Let the betting / discussion / arguments begin!

Cheers
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PS. Thanks Sagarneel for reigniting the cricketing fire in me. Please help me in co-hosting this thread now!
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The first time India will be playing a world cup without Gavaskar and Tendulkar.

I am expecting India to win at least 4 matches in the group stages.
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I hope our bowling is at least slightly better by then, than the abysmal bit that is currently being displayed in Aus
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Originally Posted by piyukamath View Post I hope our bowling is at least slightly better by then, than the abysmal bit that is currently being displayed in Aus
I agree Piyukamath! But thankfully, ODI bowling requirements will be slightly different compared to the test matches. We do need our spinners to do well though - large grounds in Australia can really help a spinner in getting crucial breakthroughs. Ashwin / Akshar Patel will need to prove their worth!
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I think we are a better team in the shorter format of the game.

I hope the chokers don't choke at the crucial moment and win their first World Cup. The Kiwis will be a handful in their home conditions, the Kangaroos are always in the reckoning in whatever conditions, the Lions have reached the finals in the last 2 World Cups, the Pommies could spring a surprise since they will be playing a triangular Down Under before the main event, you can never predict what the unpredictable's can do especially when they won the World Cup when it was hosted Down Under last time. It goes without saying that the Indians will always support the team since they are the holders of the cup.

I am writing off the West Indians since there is some dispute with the board and the players.

I am anticipating some closely fought games from the quarterfinals onwards where an over or two will decide which team will win the game.
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Dhoni has retired from tests - I am kinda in shock!
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I know! It won't do good to have hurt egos and clashes in a team right before the world cup!
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The only surprise for me is that it is from immediate effect. I was anticipating an announcement during the start of the test of SCG or on the last day. Dhoni did say that after the 2011 World Cup that he will retire from one format to concentrate on the others.
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Ahh..finally it has started. For the uninitiated, the fun we had during the last WC can be seen here.

Few predictions:
1. I don't think India has any chance of winning it this time. They might reach the semis, but that's it.
2. Potential semi finalists - India, Australia, NZ and S.A
3. Potential champions - Aus/ S.A (I wish its S.A though)

Thanks nitts for starting this thread. I finally have a reason to be more frequent in IM.

Edit - Dhoni's retirement from Tests with immediate effect came as a shock. Learnt about it just now. Although I think the only thing that is going to happen as a result of this is - India are going to miss a good wicket keeper, nothing more.
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Frankly, I am fine with Dhoni retiring from tests - it's a format which he never liked. But the problem for me is the morale of the team just before the WC. With Ganguly & co. recently questioning Dhoni's credentials, with the spat between Kohli & Dhawan, with Kohli's over-the-top aggression at times etc., I am a little worried.

Sagarneel - good to see you here Our choices for the semis seem to match! I am just waiting for my dear 'ol friend Mr. Nattu to initiate his verbal volleys
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Originally Posted by nittsmehta View Post Sagarneel - good to see you here Our choices for the semis seem to match! I am just waiting for my dear 'ol friend Mr. Nattu to initiate his verbal volleys
Our choices definitely match...they have been matching since 2011 . I'm looking forward to Nattu ji to join this thread too...however, since Sachin has retired, I'm not sure about the power of his verbal volleys! (no offence Nattu ji..I must admit, if I look at SRT's career from a neutral/unbiased perspective, I would tend to agree with a few of your arguments against him!). I'm waiting to see brishti get on board as well! I'm sure this thread thread will make a lot of hibernating IMers to wake up!
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Originally Posted by sagarneel View Post I'm waiting to see brishti get on board as well!
Oh yes, it will be great to hear from brishti, vandy, kedarmad, biman, Lord Stan, varad, nycank amongst others!
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Well, the format of this WC is such that the group stages are just a mere formality. Also the pitches till the QF's will be flat and with miniature stadia's of NZ, we would see some very high scores being set and chased.

My top 5 teams for this tourney are as follows:-

1) New Zealand.
2) Australia.
3) South Africa.
4) Sri Lanka.
5) India.

NZ are in red hot form and they play almost their entire WC at home. They have a very good bowling attack in the form of Boult-Southee-Milne-Vettori + good All rounders in Anderson/Neesham.

Batting wise, they seem to have peaked well with Baz leading the way being accompanied by Williamson, Latham, Taylor,Guptill etc.

My only concern for them is that they might be lured into selecting Ronchi instead of Watling. Alright Ronchi scored those 99 and 79 against the Saffers but that's about it. I wish they select a classic batsman in watling rather then a hit and miss Ronchi. Rest they have all the aspects covered and look set to go a long way this time.



Australia on the other hand have a good mix of players too. Playing at home is always a advantage. They too have a good ammo in fast bowling with the likes of Pattinson and Cummins getting fit in time, along with Mitch, Harris, Starc and Lyon.

Their batting is a concern with Clarke racing against time to get fit before the big day arrives. The two W's are solid openers but the middle order looks a bit jittery. Finch, Shaun Marsh, Smith, Marsh junior, Bailey are all capable but I would not be too confident of them barring Smith who has been pounding the hapless Indian bowlers recently. Still a formidable side and can end up winning if their batting fires, specially the likes of Maxwell and Faulkner.



SA on the other hand would love to shrug off the Chokers tag. They have the world's leading bowler in Steyn, with Morkel and Philander. Tahir is a weak link in spin department and shall be targeted by teams. Kallis has left a big hole in both batting and bowling and it shall be evident when we see the likes of Mclaren trying to fill in with his medium pace bowling and below par batting.

Batting is decent with the likes of De cock and Amla opening, followed by Faf, De villiers and awesome Miller and others. It's very difficult to find the reasons beforehand but they somehow find a way to lose in ICC trophies. I am sure they must be itching to end their dry run since winning the ICC champions trophy decades back.



Sri Lanka are on a decline and I would not give them much of a chance but given their performances in WC's, they may well end up punching well above their weight. They have two good batters in Sanga and Mahela who would like to end up on a high. Chandimal is another one to watch for.

Bowling wise, they have no world beaters but rather a consistent attack in Malinga, Kulasekera, Mathews and Herath with others. Once this team gets to the later stages, it becomes a dangerous team. Not much strong on paper but usually do good in World cups.



India will struggle with bowling post 35th over and their decent batting will have to come to the rescue most times. With MSD still at helm, I would not be surprised to see the allegedly talented Rohit Sharma with a Strike rate of 50 opening with Dhawan, followed by Virat, Rahane, Raina and MSD. The all rounder's slot shall be filled by Sir Jadeja at 7, the CSK mascot Ashwin at 8, and the bowlers.

The bowling shall be led by the tall and mighty Ishant, Shami, Bhuvi, Sir and Ashwin. And we might also be blessed to witness the great Binny with his 125 KPH thunderbolts in some of the matches.



Pakistan's batting will let them down big time. The banning of Ajmal and Hafeez has hurt them badly and they will have to now play with five specialist bowlers or may be Sohail tanveer who is of Indian standards. Afridi is the only x-factor but he won't be interested much as PCB has put it's foot down on Misbah being the captain. They shall cause a upset or two at most given their unpredictable style of play, but won't make it to the Semi's.



WI will likely miss it's start players as there is a huge conflict going on between the board and the players. Even if they play, they would still be dreaming about the IPL after parties and wont make to the business end of the tournament.



England's best player is made to play hit and giggle in Australia. Their captain is struggling to put bat on ball. Their recruiter is off the radar and since I cannot see any new Saffer being poached before the WC, I feel they'll struggle to go ahead in the series.



The rest are there just to fill in the numbers.

P.S:- I wish I could see Yuvi in those colors for one last time. He is a big match player and is surely better then the likes of Rayadu, and even Sir if I may dare to say that.

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Originally Posted by style_guru View Post The bowling shall be led by the tall and mighty Ishant, Shami, Bhuvi, Sir and Ashwin. And we might also be blessed to witness the great Binny with his 125 KPH thunderbolts in some of the matches.


Superb analysis, style_babu! Welcome back.
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Originally Posted by style_guru View Post Their captain is struggling to put bat on ball.
Ain't Eoin Morgan the captain for the ODI's?
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