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Teachings of the Masters on Awareness-Proactivty and Unconsciousness-Ego-Reactivity....



Act. Do not react.

--Sri Ravi Shankar



Sin is never in action. It is always in reaction.

-- Swami Chinmayananda



Virtuous ( proactive) action increases intelligence, while sinful ( reactive ) acts decreases intelligence.

--Vidura Neeti ( Mahabharatha )



If you want to progress in your life and grow, act not to react.

--Harbhajan Yogi Bhajan




Respond. Do not react.

--Osho



Just stay focused. Don't react. Just be a witness and you will see the magic of it.

--Swami Chidanand Saraswati



Be proactive. Do not be reactive.

--Stephen Covey ( Author of 7 habits of highly effective people )




Habitually we react to external stimuli, that is we are generally overwhelmed by retaliatory emotional forces within us demanding appropriate action. But surely this cannot be called 'action' , it is in fact ' re-action' . Discipline of the reasoning mind controls the reactive forces and results in appropriate 'action' rather than 're-action', one should endeavour to establish control and avoid retaliatory behaviour.

--Acharya Mahaprajna



Quality of life depends on what happens in the space between stimulus and response.

-- Stephen Covey



Because of the space between stimulus and response, people have the power of choice; therefore,leaders are neither born nor made — meaning environmentally trained and nurtured. They are self-made through chosen responses, and if they choose based on principles and develop increasingly greater discipline, their freedom to choose increases.

-- Stephen Covey



Reaction is unconscious. You do not know exactly that you are being manipulated. You are not aware that you are behaving like a slave, not like a master. Action out of consciousness is response.

-- Osho



You can act in two ways -- one is reaction, another is response.

Reaction comes out of your past conditionings; it is mechanical.

Response comes out of your presence, awareness, consciousness; it is non-mechanical.

The ability to respond is one of the greatest principles of growth. You are not following any order, any commandment; you are simply following your awareness. You are functioning like a mirror, reflecting the situation and responding to it -- not out of your memory from past experiences of similar situations, not repeating your reactions, but acting fresh, new, in this very moment. Neither the situation is old, nor your response -- both are new.

-- Osho



One who is obsessed with worldly pursuits, one who is body-oriented, cannot really go into this. We need to develop a distance from our mind and not give in to impulsiveness. Those who react are the ones who are living mindlessly. So in a way, we can say that living mindfully is being in meditation.

-- Anandmurti Gurumaa




So action which is born of reaction breeds sorrow. Most of our thoughts are the result of the past, of time. A mind that is not built on the past, that has totally understood this whole process of reaction, can act every minute totally, completely, wholly.

- J. Krishnamurti



Action which is born of reaction breeds sorrow.

- J. Krishnamurti
Self-awareness is yoga. - Nisargadatta Maharaj

The great perfection is non-conceptual awareness. - Dzogchen

Evil is an extreme manifestation of human unconsciousness. - Eckhart Tolle
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Hi all,

I am Ajay.

My humble pranams and well-wishes to all of you here.


Quoted above are a list of teachings of various masters which I compiled myself for a better understanding and contemplation of the message of proactivity and reactivity.

Through study and analysis of the master's teachings, I had come to the understanding that it is proactive action which is what is known as virtue or good karma while reactive action is what is known as sin or bad karma.

While proactivity is what stems from a state of awareness or mindfulness , reactivity on the other hand stems from the ego .

Living in the present moment generates awareness, while living in the past or future due to desires, craving or incessant thinking is what generates the ego.

The state of awareness generates peace and happiness , while the ego generates pain and sorrow.


This is why the Buddha had said thus ," Mindfulness ( constant awareness ) is the true virtue."

And why Eckhart Tolle had stated thus. " Evil is an extreme manifestation of human unconsciousness."



Writing this in my notebook and constant study and contemplation of these teachings from time to time helped me to become a more self-aware, proactive and less reactive person. This understanding brought a deep sense of calmness, peace, contentment and well-being in my life.

Hope the reading of the above mentioned teachings will do the same for you or help in bringing perspective on the nature of the mind.
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“To be or not to be.” — W. Shakespeare
“To do is to be.” — Socrates
"To be is to do.” — J.P. Sartre
“Dooby dooby doo.” — F. Sinatra
"What is to be done?"---V.I. Lenin
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“To be or not to be.” — W. Shakespeare
“To do is to be.” — Socrates
"To be is to do.” — J.P. Sartre
“Dooby dooby doo.” — F. Sinatra
(The philosophical version is "do, be; do, be; do.")

"What to do?"

Ajay, sorry to be trivial, but "single liners" such as these are often impossible to make anything of out of their original context, Some may even appear as nonsense.

Action which is born of reaction breeds sorrow. --- Why? It's a two-way existence.

I have, in the past, also said to another member, that, rather than his encyclopaedic knowledge of the works of philosophical, religious and spiritual writers of all ages and many parts of the world, I would rather he wrote his understanding and wisdom.

But hey, If something stands out and sticks in somebody's head and does them good then it is good.
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I have, in the past, also said to another member, that, rather than his encyclopaedic knowledge of the works of philosophical, religious and spiritual writers of all ages and many parts of the world, I would rather he wrote his understanding and wisdom.
"I AM HE"

all my own words! KK
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Please look at this thread: http://www.indiamike.com/india/uttar...012-a-t159252/

He could be anywhere now: You might have met him, be able to help, or give information.
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Writing this in my notebook and constant study and contemplation of these teachings from time to time helped me to become a more self-aware, proactive and less reactive person. This understanding brought a deep sense of calmness, peace, contentment and well-being in my life.

Hope the reading of the above mentioned teachings will do the same for you or help in bringing perspective on the nature of the mind.
Very admirable of you, but look into what J.K. had to say about "becoming".
While ever you are becoming good, you are still caught within the wheel of "Forever becoming" In other words I am bad/angry/jealous/envious, but I am going to be/becoming good, this is a trap. For transformation/transmutation to take place you should stay with the truth of I am angry/envious etc, then you will see into the whole thing with clarity, if you can do this & be truthful with yourself then a dissolving or transcendence/transmutation will take place which will take you beyond the idea of good/bad Karma, instead of "becoming" you are now "Being".

You might enjoy the following 4 video's where JK touches on "becoming" in some depth;
http://www.sheldrake.org/videos/the-...pert-Sheldrake

P.S. He also said ""You" can't do it!"
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Quoted above are a list of teachings of various masters which I compiled myself for a better understanding and contemplation of the message of proactivity and reactivity.
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post (The philosophical version is "do, be; do, be; do.")

"What to do?"

Ajay, sorry to be trivial, but "single liners" such as these are often impossible to make anything of out of their original context, Some may even appear as nonsense.

Action which is born of reaction breeds sorrow. --- Why? It's a two-way existence.

I have, in the past, also said to another member, that, rather than his encyclopaedic knowledge of the works of philosophical, religious and spiritual writers of all ages and many parts of the world, I would rather he wrote his understanding and wisdom.

Hello Nick,

The single-liners can serve the function of a koan. Because the understanding over here is not intellectual, but experiential. It can serve as a springboard for understanding the theme from the perception of consciousness and not just the mere intellect which would just store the knowledge as memory and moves on to its next intellectual game.

If one understands it merely in an intellectual fashion, it would defeat its purpose of achieving experiential understanding.

The rig vedic dictum, Prajnanam Brahman means ‘Brahman is pure consciousness.’

However if one understands this in merely in an intellectual fashion, obviously it would not serve its purpose. It is through meditation or Awareness that one can properly comprehend this dictum in its true context.

Similarly with deep love which is the same as the state of pure consciousness. If you understand it in a mere intellectual context, you will be falling short of its proper understanding. It is in experiential understanding that you have a better chance of hitting the mark.

Regards,

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Originally Posted by kullukid View Post Very admirable of you, but look into what J.K. had to say about "becoming".
While ever you are becoming good, you are still caught within the wheel of "Forever becoming" In other words I am bad/angry/jealous/envious, but I am going to be/becoming good, this is a trap. For transformation/transmutation to take place you should stay with the truth of I am angry/envious etc, then you will see into the whole thing with clarity, if you can do this & be truthful with yourself then a dissolving or transcendence/transmutation will take place which will take you beyond the idea of good/bad Karma, instead of "becoming" you are now "Being".

Yes, Awareness is more of a state of being, rather than becoming. It is very insightful of you to notice this and put it over here. It will help to comprehend this theme better.


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http://www.sheldrake.org/videos/the-...pert-Sheldrake
Thank you very much for putting this over here, Kullukid.

I deeply appreciate it.


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Yes, it is the "I", "me" and "mine" which are the manifestation of the ego, that is the issue.

In Awareness the ego and its manifestations cease to exist, and instead of reacting from the state of ego, one responds from the state of 'Being'.
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Hmmm... If you have experience, then no, you don't need words. One might even struggle to find them to explain to another.

But, if we are talking about understanding: one does, or one does not. And it has an intellectual content and context. Don;t muddy the waters by bringing in pure conciousness and deep love: such things just dazzle, and serve no purpose --- unless one is experiencing them.

I had a short conversation with a musician this evening. I was struck by how the music of this octogenarian, much of which he might have known for decades, seemed so fresh and new. How his improvisation (raga alapana) seemed like someone exploring something new. He replied "That is the power of now."

In context, being there, it was a completely appropriate thing for this learned and deep (I have met him a few times) man to say. Out of context... well, it would just be a nice thing to put on a book cover. In other words, as they say, you had to be there

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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post Hmmm... If you have experience, then no, you don't need words. One might even struggle to find them to explain to another.
The challenge here for me is not personal experience, but to somehow articulate the experience to the other. That is why I mentioned the Koan.

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The state of pure consciousness transcends that of the intellect. In samadhi or deep love there are no thoughts itself in the first place.



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Don;t muddy the waters by bringing in pure conciousness and deep love: such things just dazzle, and serve no purpose --- unless one is experiencing them. .
Pure consciousness as in Brahman and deep love are related to Awareness. It is in a sense one and the same.

By mere intellectual understanding, it is hard to grasp these concepts and their relatedness.
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Yes, Awareness is more of a state of being, rather than becoming. It is very insightful of you to notice this and put it over here. It will help to comprehend this theme better.




Thank you very much for putting this over here, Kullukid.

I deeply appreciate it.




Yes, it is the "I", "me" and "mine" which are the manifestation of the ego, that is the issue.

In Awareness the ego and its manifestations cease to exist, and instead of reacting from the state of ego, one responds from the state of 'Being'.

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