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Any advice for good guided meditation
With link to maybe download or buy thanks
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Guided Meditation is not Meditation, don't waste your time.

Watch this;
SOS: Missing Person...

Please look at this thread: http://www.indiamike.com/india/uttar...012-a-t159252/

He could be anywhere now: You might have met him, be able to help, or give information.
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thanks Kullukid I love the things you post really very knowledgeable. This SWAMI YOGESHWARANANDA GIRI looks interesting have you met him ? Hope is one of the good ones bad experience in the past with some Swamis. Awatramani also interesting will look and then let you know. But how you find all these ? Ciao
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Originally Posted by kamaferro View Post thanks Kullukid I love the things you post really very knowledgeable. This SWAMI YOGESHWARANANDA GIRI looks interesting have you met him ?
Yes, he's very good, here are a few quotes from one of his books which may help you;

"It is said that the Atman has no form, it is formless. It is of the same nature everywhere. It has no parts, and is unthinkable. The Atman cannot be thought of. You can think of this or that, but you cannot think directly of the Atman because the Atman has no form. It is neither gross nor subtle. It has no worldly or material characteristics and attributes. Therefore, the only way to fix your mind in the Atman is to quietly and silently be aware of it. That is all. The Atman being everywhere, one cannot particularly say the Atman is here, and is not there. All that you have to do is, with the decided intellect, fix the mind and establish it in the Atman, which is everywhere. Being so aware of the Atman is the quintessence of religion. That means you become silently aware of the Atman which is everywhere. It is subtle and imperceptible, but nevertheless, it exists everywhere. Therefore, you silently go about your life being aware of it. Thus you become aware of your beingness the Atman. Become consciously aware of the indwelling Self. That is all that you have to do. Just be aware of awareness, and this is meditation."
From "Wisdom in Action"
By Swami Yogeshwarananda Giri

Source; https://www.facebook.com/Swami-Yoges...1395/timeline/


"In meditation you are now trying to be aware or conscious of the Divine. What were you aware of before? You were aware of the world and things of the world. When you become aware of the world and the things of the world, you have lost your awareness of the Atman, which is subtle and imperceptible and everywhere. The only way to be aware of this Atman is to become silent, forget the world, and be aware of awareness. Thus there is nothing particular to focus your attention upon. There is no concentration here. It is only to be aware. Keeping quiet, silently be aware. Once you become quiet, you have become dead to the world and to the thought world around you. Thus you become dead to the desire world too. And then, quietly maintain this awareness. Maintain vigil. This is how to be established in the Atman."

From "Wisdom in Action"
By Swami Yogeshwarananda Giri

Source; https://www.facebook.com/Swami-Yoges...1395/timeline/

You can download the book here;
http://himalayanhermit.com/downloads...-action-ebook/
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Originally Posted by kamaferro View Post But how you find all these ?
Grace!!
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The Grip of Identification
Q&A -- December 2009, Atlanta

Q: In describing the purpose of meditation which is to discover reality, you said over and over again that the means is to "let go". So if I look at that word "letting go," the opposite of letting go is "gripping", "being gripped." So would you explain or describe what this grip is and how the "grip" or block, which is so hard to let go, ultimately releases?

A: The grip is the grip of identification. And it is caused by the idea that you have of yourself as a separate entity. Out of that idea comes experiences, perceptions, sensations that you experience which you are identified with. That is how it happens.

So once again, the idea that you are a separate entity which is caused by the "I-thought" or the "I-feeling", the feeling of I, that you are separate, you are this body having these thoughts and feelings. Out of this experience or idea comes other experiences which you are connected with and therefore identified with. This is the grip.

Now the second part: How is it released? It is impossible to be released by any mental activity because the whole experience is born of this experience of your self as body and mind. And nothing can release you from this. No voluntary effort can release you from this except a turning your "consciousness" inward to the source of this identification. Which is not, again, a voluntary effort. It is not an effort. It is not an activity. It is turning your consciousness inward as the opposite direction of the experience [of body and mind]. It is an inquiring into this point of identification, the "I".

So this turning inward of consciousness is called "self-inquiry." And this happens through this practice of silence. In this you are guided by the energy of silence, for silence is the Source and that Source pulls you towards it. That silence guides you to itself. This is what releases you.

So once again no amount of thinking, no exercise, no feelings, no experiences, nothing can release you from this bondage. Because all activity is born out of bondage, out of this identification. So as long as there is this I-thought and no awareness of it, as long as there is a feeling of I, the feeling or experience that you are a separate entity; as long as this is there, there is bondage, there is this grip.

So it is really the energy of silence that can release you. In other words, the energy of silence, silence is the Source from where you come.... from where everything is created. And it is only the Source that can release you. The Source that created you.

So when you turn inwards in that direction, it guides you to itself and releases you.

Dr. Bhagwan. Awatramani


Source; http://teachingsinsilence.com/lecture_grip.html
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"When you are in a state of silence you become acutely conscious or aware of awareness itself. Maintain this. As you keep on maintaining it, you become more and more intensely aware of the awareness, and then gradually you become absorbed in it. When you become more and more absorbed in it, then you reach the point wherein total absorption comes in. Thus when you get totally absorbed that is called samaadhi. The word samaadhi means the mystic state of inner communion.
The mind is now established in the Atman. When you go about functioning in the world, you still can maintain that awareness, and can silently function in all your activities. You become silently aware. The word is smriti. You have a recollection, a remembrance. You are to maintain that recollection in a very subtle way, and then go about doing your functions. When you are able to do that, then that is said to be living in God, or you are maintaining God-consciousness, or God-awareness."
From "Wisdom in Action"
By Swami Yogeshwarananda Giri

Source; https://www.facebook.com/Swami-Yoges...1395/timeline/
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Originally Posted by kullukid View Post Guided Meditation is not Meditation, don't waste your time.
Watch this; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD0YoFWxxIs
A really wonderful explanation of mind, silence and meditation. I had missed it some how, but really glad to listen to this youtube video. Thank you very much KKJi
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Originally Posted by narayanvee View Post A really wonderful explanation of mind, silence and meditation. I had missed it some how, but really glad to listen to this youtube video. Thank you very much KKJi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbOv...#t=6687.839613

The documentary maker did a good job studying Nisargadatta. However, I must point out, Nisargadatta, in turn was articulating Upanishads for us all. Nisargadatta’s probing,

“ what are you before your birth? ”

is a shocking question that takes us to core of Hindu philosophy. Brahman and Atman (Consciousness and Self) are defined and their relationship is explained in Upanishads in detail. Maya and Advaita are also dealt with among others. Moksha or mukti (liberation) remains the goal of our lives. IM glad he talked about Turaya sleep also. Worth listening to the tape.

another relevant video:

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[QUOTE=surya2015he documentary maker did a good job studying Nisargadatta. However, I must point out, Nisargadatta, in turn was articulating Upanishads for us all. Nisargadatta’s probing,
“ what are you before your birth? ”
is a shocking question that takes us to core of Hindu philosophy. Brahman and Atman (Consciousness and Self)......................... .....
another relevant video:
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgmjJ7eu5sA"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgmjJ7eu5sA[/ame][/QUOTE

Thank you Surya2015 for introducing another link. I could not listen to the full video as it is too long; by the way I do not know how to save a youtube video to my computer; so listening on line is not easy. But the starting seems similar to the Nasadiya sukta of the Rigveda.
In the other video " SILENCE, THE INNER TEACHER" is simple and direct as the interviewer goes to the details and gets explanations from the Swmiji Awatramani.
Another thing @KKJI the explanations of meditation in this video and the teachings of Swami Yogeswaranda Giri whose teachings have been introduced by you to me are in the same line. Is Swami Awatramani a follower of Swami Yogeswarananda Giri ? Not important to know, but the similarities are so striking. Any way thank you KKJI for this video link on MEDITATION which is simple and direct.

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