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Hello friends , my name is George , I am 25 and I am a police officer , there is something about india that just makes me melt ... what I am searching for is spiritually ... I wanna leave everything behind and never come back . I wanna go to india and never come back , I am looking for some help :
- advice on where I should go ?
- who should I talk to ?
- how does one who seeks enlightenment survive there ?
- are there any temples that accept foreigners ?
- how much money should I carry with me ?
- any advice for such a big jump ?

I am very determined about this . I got no family . No girlfriend . Just 1 more friend who dosent know yet if he wanna come with me or stay home .
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Are you Buddhist? Hindu? Christian?

Plenty of people who had the same intentions end up in tourist cities addicted to drugs. Do you have the coping skills to deal with your own suffering? I don't think its a good idea to go to India to 'find yourself'. I suggest you seek advice at a local religious institute first, rather than IM. Many of these places can actually help you enroll in a monastery in India, if that is your intention.

Not all temples in India will have your best intentions in mind. There are plenty that will take you and make you feel like a brother until they have cleaned your purses. I would recommend a few religious retreats, or meditation sessions in India to confirm your level of commitment.
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Originally Posted by magicland View Post - how does one who seeks enlightenment survive there ?

enlightenment can be had at home when washing the dishes, although it might not be as cool as going to India.

if you have have never been to India, how do you already know that you never want to leave it? India is certainly not all how it looks in books -- it is sometimes better, sometimes a lot worse that will make you want to run away fast.

as for your other questions, this entire forum can answer them. all you have to do is search.
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Originally Posted by iamgorman View Post Are you Buddhist? Hindu? Christian?

Plenty of people who had the same intentions end up in tourist cities addicted to drugs. Do you have the coping skills to deal with your own suffering? I don't think its a good idea to go to India to 'find yourself'. I suggest you seek advice at a local religious institute first, rather than IM. Many of these places can actually help you enroll in a monastery in India, if that is your intention.

Not all temples in India will have your best intentions in mind. There are plenty that will take you and make you feel like a brother until they have cleaned your purses. I would recommend a few religious retreats, or meditation sessions in India to confirm your level of commitment.
I am a Buddhist , I definitely wont get addicted to drugs .
I will follow you advice , but I still wanna know , how does one survive in india ?
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Originally Posted by magicland View Post but I still wanna know , how does one survive in india ?
Pretty much like people survive in the rest of the world. Earn and eat, steal and eat, beg and eat...but most of all, try not to come in the way of any politician or bureaucrat.
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Do you belong to a Buddhist community in Europe?

There are many Buddhist monasteries in India you can join. They have very simple tenets. You can do more research online, though.

If you are serious, I suggest you save up $5,000 - $10,000 after you pay off any debts. Sell everything. Explain your wishes to any people who may grow concerned with you leaving. Essentially, don't leave loose threads which may cause concern to others, or affect your ability to remain in the monastery. Take a plane to India and travel to a Buddhist monastery. Explain your intentions, and be give them your savings. You'll soon find yourself robed and shaved and struggling to learn a new language.

Don't go to India and ask around for a monastery. You can search online for monasteries and just arrive unannounced. Or some have an "application process" you can begin with an email.

There are also places where lay people can go and take very basic to very in-depth buddhist studies. There are some opportunities in Bylakuppe that are very legitimate and are not influenced by tourism.

There are many, probably hundreds every year, of foreigners who arrive in India with the same goals. You can expect a great deal of skepticism until you establish yourself and prove yourself in your studies. On the flip side...if you would rather hang out at teashops, smoke hash, and occasionally rub elbows with some monks, that's a possibility in India also.

Survival is instinctual. Eat, sleep, and be useful and you will find what you look for.
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There are also places where lay people can go and take very basic to very in-depth buddhist studies. There are some opportunities in Bylakuppe that are very legitimate and are not influenced by tourism.
Very well put.

Another option for the OP is to visit someplace a little less isolated - a Vipassana program at Mcleodganj can be a good start. The goals of the program are indeed lofty and pure, but mcleodganj has, over the years, become a place that is as fashionable amongst those truly interested in the teachings of the buddha as well as those who would like to be 'seen' being spiritual.

It can still be a fairly gentle introduction to India in general - away from the grime and heat of the plains.
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Originally Posted by magicland View Post Hello friends , my name is George , I am 25 and I am a police officer , there is something about india that just makes me melt ... what I am searching for is spiritually ... I wanna leave everything behind and never come back . I wanna go to india and never come back , I am looking for some help
  • Have you been to India before ?
  • Legally you cannot just go to India and never return, unless you marry someone from India
  • You can get spirituality in the corner of your room, or in the din of the silicon drums.
  • Maybe you should take a few courses in your "European" local college's Asian or Indian Studies department and talk to some faculty there.
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  • Good luck in your search.
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Originally Posted by magicland View Post I wanna leave everything behind and never come back . I wanna go to india and never come back ,[/B] I am looking for some help :

Just 1 more friend who dosent know yet if he wanna come with me or stay home .
So why would you want to come here and never return?

I guess there are lot of spirituality stuff(like Yogaaa,Buddhaa etc) available in where you live which may be less scamming than most do here.

India is not so rosy as it might look at first glance.
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Originally Posted by iamgorman View Post Do you belong to a Buddhist community in Europe?

There are many Buddhist monasteries in India you can join. They have very simple tenets. You can do more research online, though.

If you are serious, I suggest you save up $5,000 - $10,000 after you pay off any debts. Sell everything. Explain your wishes to any people who may grow concerned with you leaving. Essentially, don't leave loose threads which may cause concern to others, or affect your ability to remain in the monastery. Take a plane to India and travel to a Buddhist monastery. Explain your intentions, and be give them your savings. You'll soon find yourself robed and shaved and struggling to learn a new language.

Don't go to India and ask around for a monastery. You can search online for monasteries and just arrive unannounced. Or some have an "application process" you can begin with an email.

There are also places where lay people can go and take very basic to very in-depth buddhist studies. There are some opportunities in Bylakuppe that are very legitimate and are not influenced by tourism.

There are many, probably hundreds every year, of foreigners who arrive in India with the same goals. You can expect a great deal of skepticism until you establish yourself and prove yourself in your studies. On the flip side...if you would rather hang out at teashops, smoke hash, and occasionally rub elbows with some monks, that's a possibility in India also.

Survival is instinctual. Eat, sleep, and be useful and you will find what you look for.
I have like 50.000 euros saved , I only need to eat , I am thinking of living in forests or caves near villages , I got alot of books that I study and I wanna take them with me , I wanna meditate in the caves , in the forests and live a solitary life . I doubt I will manage to enter a Buddhist temple and become a monk . My problems are how do I hide all those money ? I wanna use them for food , I think it would last me a lifetime 50000 euros only for food , 1 max 2 meals a day . I will sleep in a tent in a sleeping bag and travel the country and meditate , but again how do I hide the money ? how should I dress so I dont attract attention ? How should I do this ? Also what about medicine ? I been researching and drinking my own urine seems like the best ideea ..aany more help you can give ?
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The thread is aptly titled.
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Originally Posted by magicland View Post I have like 50.000 euros saved .....I wanna meditate in the caves , in the forests and live a solitary life ......My problems are how do I hide all those money ?....I think it would last me a lifetime 50000 euros only for food
I'll tell you all the safe cave locations in India and some tips on how not to attract attention, and save those euros...on a 20% commission...deal?
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@ magicland

I can tell you some super secret caves but need 15% commission.

No humans would bother you but just fee birds can checki-in or check-out without giving any $.Consider my offer but please hurry up as this limited offer closes soon.

Below is the preview of the location.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ves-Nepal.html
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Originally Posted by nycank View Post [ [*]Legally you cannot just go to India and never return, unless you marry


magicland, I'm repeating part of nycank's list above for you.

You cannot live in India just because you want to. Legally, you would need to marry someone from there.
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Originally Posted by theRock View Post @ magicland

I can tell you some super secret caves but need 15% commission.

No humans would bother you but just fee birds can checki-in or check-out without giving any $.Consider my offer but please hurry up as this limited offer closes soon.

Below is the preview of the location.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ves-Nepal.html
I have been there.
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