Cows in india

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Is there a reason history why cow are sacred in India ??
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This might give you a place to start.

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Holy kine!

It may be because they have such thick skulls.

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/colu...cle7797190.ece

Why don't you ask the gomutra swiggers?
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Be aware that any conclusions you draw are likely to be shouted down as blasphemy by someone.
do you mean to start int his forum or what ?

there should be a history behind the cows considered sacred or is just a cultural or believe ?
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In 1895 AD, one Ralph Thomas Hotchkins Griffith, scholar of indology at Queen's college, London translated the hymns of the Atharva Veda from Sanskrit to English. Atharva Veda is datable to 1200 BC and is one of the four vedas that are held as a ''basis'' for Hinduism.

Book X, hymn X reads -

" Worship to thee, springing to life and worship unto thee, when born. Worship, O Cow, thy tail hair, and to thy hooves and thy form. God goes with prayer the Cow who hath Parjanya for her lord. Agni hath entered into thee; Soma, O Cow, hath entered thee. Thine udder is Parjanya, O blest Cow; the lightnings arethy teats. <snip, long hymn, difficult to type>

At least five other hymns glorify the cow.

Essentially, the book goes on to describe how all the major deities sought to protect themselves and entered the cow. This forms the basis of a ritual I've witnessed, in person at the temple of Srirangam, Tamil Nadu. Called Komatha puja (worship of the cow as a sacred mother) A black cow is the first living being (other than the priest) to be allowed to view the deity after the deity wakes up from sleep. I wasn't allowed to photograph the decorated cow (it was in the innermost precinct and photography is not permitted).

It is my understanding that the Vaishnavites regard the cow as sacred. The other two major sects, Shaivites and Shakta, regard the cow as protected but not a deity unto itself. I could go into the practical aspects or likely economic basis for the same but I suspect that's not what you're looking for.
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My mother in law used to cite the anthropologist babble from the 70's now completely shredded. However, I think she just used that to bolster her argument that the core ancient documents didn't have any beef prohibition whatever praise they might give cows. I miss my mother in law..
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I have a memory from a trip to Varanasi a long time ago. A cow quietly ambling down a crowded street suddenly stopped in its tracks and began to urinate. Leaving what she was doing, a woman rushed towards her, holding an empty vessel.

When the cow gives you milk. When from its milk you get curd and ghee (or clarified butter); from its dung you get fuel. It's urine has medicinal qualities, too, supposedly. When it gives you so much nourishment, as a mother would to its child, so unconditionally and selflessly, then how could you be so barbaric as to actually kill and consume it? This is the logic, in its most basic sense, running through Hindu thought.

Nandi, the bull, serves as the mount for Lord Shiva. The glacier out of whose mouth the Ganges gushes forth is called Gaumukh (or Cow's Mouth). And there are many many more examples. Feeding a cow is meant to relieve you of the ill effects of past sins being one. That the cow is like a mother, gow-mata, also dovetails with the core Hindu belief of the presence of the supreme divinity in all beings.

And of course, various ancient texts add other dimensions to this core belief.

Whether or not ancient Indians ate beef has little to no bearing on present day values, Ed. (As if Pakistanis care that their ancestors were once Hindus)
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which are the economical and practical aspect ? curious to know
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where is the truth other post say differently, it depends on opinions or there is a truth without discussions
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I am a little confused as to what you're getting at.

Cows give you milk, milk gives you butter and curd, and so cows are the abundant source of dairy goodness. Cow dung is used as fuel across large swathes of India. The deification of the bovine is enmeshed to this ancient and present reality.

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In the debate in the Constituent Assembly, Pandit Thakur Dass Bhargava and Seth Govind Das proffered economic reasons to demand the ban on cow slaughter. Bhargava said,

“To grow more food and to improve agriculture and the cattle breed are all inter-dependent and are two sides of the same coin. [ ...] The best way of increasing the production is to improve the health of human beings and breed of cattle, whose milk and manure and labour are most essential for growing food. [...] From both points of view, of agriculture and food, protection of the cow becomes necessary.”
Source: http://scroll.in/article/759157/a-sh...slaughter-laws
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They impede traffic and thus increase the profits that oil companies make.

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You aren't going to have a serious discussion here. You might as well ask about Transubstantiation. We have all nibbled at the forbidden fruit of Enlightenment.
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Speak for yourself. I have nibbled at my share of forbidden fruit, but enlightenment? I thought that was when a bulb came on until I discovered Smirnoff.
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there should be a history behind the cows considered sacred or is just a cultural or believe ?
Sorry. Thought you'd understand that you were to click on the word "This," indicated as a link by its being underlined. Had you done so, you would have been taken to a page with an overview of the subject.
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I follow the posts on Facebook by cow fans, cow defenders etc. Here is a post I had translated from a post in Telugu:

"Is the cow is like any other animal? Really? Is cow the same to you as a hen or a goat?

True, cow is an animal, but it is quite different from any other life on earth, even better than you and me. That is the reason we Hindus revere it by giving it the position of mother. I hope you agree that someone who has given you birth is like no other.

If everything (i.e. your culture, education, discretion etc) that has made you what you are today lets you accept truth when you hear it, here it is:

Just to find out the effect on humans of drinking the milk of a cow that has eaten some poisonous substances, researchers at AIIMS injected some poison into a cow. 24 hours later the milk from the cow, its blood, urine and cow dung were sent to the lab for tests. This was repeated for 90 days in a row! Amazing! There was no poison detected in the urine, blood, milk or cow dung!

So, then what happened to the poison? Like Lord Shiva, it has absorbed the poison but gave only pure milk! Do you know any other animal like this? Consider these time-tested facts:

* Cow is the only living being that breathes in Oxygen and gives out Oxygen.

* Cow’s urine can cure diseases not even understood by modern medical science.

* When heated, rice mixed with ghee (made from cow’s milk) gives out powerful gases (ethylene oxide and propylene oxide). Propylene oxide plays a key role in making artificial rain

* Cow’s urine is the best insecticide found in nature

* Liver-related diseases can be cured with medicines made from cow’s urine and cow dung.

* Front yard of a house when covered with a layer of cow dung helps protect the occupants of the house from the harmful effects of radioactive rays.

* Cow dung has ingredients that combat the spread of cholera.

* Offering a mere 10 grams of ghee (made from cow’s milk) in fire ceremony generates a ton of Oxygen!

* “Eating beef from a cow can cause disease. Ghee is equivalent to divine nectar” – Prophet Hazrat Mohammed
* “Killing a cow is equivalent to killing a human” – Jesus Christ

* “Cows are a gift to humanity. Wherever cows are cared for and treated with respect, those lands thrive. Citizens of such lands thrive, too.” – Bernard McFadden.

* “Killing cows is not recommended in the Koran” – Hakim Hajmal Khan.

* “Killing cows is against the rules of Islam” – Thohas-e-Hind Bijahar

Vande gomataram!"

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Shouldn't that read "phlogiston" instead of "oxygen" or does one have the same word for both in Telugu?
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