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Hello my name is Louis. Making the story short, i've seen a mountain in my meditations and with it, an urge to travel has arose. I'm not usually one for travel or anything like that as i believe the practice is within not without but this feels like a fairly strong sign. My first thought was to go to the himalayas because it feels like a very spiritual place and the thought of going up to big bear or something doesn't move me at all. When i realized i can't just walk up into the mountains and sit there I started doing some research on what to do. It seems like going to an ashram would be the best solution but everyone i look at seems to be almost tourist and hatha yoga based. I'm looking for a place where i can stay and do my kriya yoga (which im learning through ananda) and possibly... i don't know walk into the mountains and sit there . So as you can see im lost and i would appreciate any help. Again, if it wasn't for the apparent sign i've had i probably wouldn't be doing this. Thanks for any suggestions in advance
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True Story .. nearly 20 years ago a young European woman was on yatra visiting the usual places of pilgrimage in the Himalaya .. one morning at a lesser known temple village she went to the river for bath .. while in the water she experienced a ‘vision’ .. looking up she knew to go up the mountain above the river.
Upon this mountain she found her teacher and today she is still there .. winter/summer she walks barefoot .. now she is an Indian citizen and has surrendered her European passport/rights.

Otherwise, can book ashram package holiday online.
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Another Story .. a beautiful 19 year old man from Brazil lives in Europe (Paris or London) he also has an inner voice to find a mountain place. He meditates on maps of the Himalaya .. being practical he narrows in on a valley where forest meets ice.
In that valley he finds a small ‘baba ashram’ .. higher up the valley is the meditation cave he had sensed from studying the map .. he undertakes week long solos in the cave.
All together he stays a year or more in the valley .. while away in Nepal he is robbed .. without passport and penniless he enters back to India and to the valley .. as time continues he becomes crazed and is eventually repatriated back to his worried mother in Europe.
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Cool stories. Although they aren't really helpful I've enjoyed them
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Majority of Ashrams are just money making machines, a genuine monk does not run any business.
Ashram means "resting place" it is within you! Go to the cave of your heart, it's your true Temple.
Visions are dangerous things to follow & are usually a trick of the mind, but if you feel the urge to visit Himalaya's then do that but with no concrete plan & go with the flow, India & life tends to take you where you need to go. Just my personal opinion but Kriya's won't lead you anywhere (I know, not what you want to hear!) Ananda is one of those big business money making machines selling Spirituality & so called "secrets".

Bon Voyage. KK
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some more such examples below.

I must say some should avoid going to India and Nepal, at least when they are young,
since it will prove way too intense for them.

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Originally Posted by old india hand View Post True Story .. nearly 20 years ago a young European woman was on yatra visiting the usual places of pilgrimage in the Himalaya .. one morning at a lesser known temple village she went to the river for bath .. while in the water she experienced a ‘vision’ .. looking up she knew to go up the mountain above the river.
Upon this mountain she found her teacher and today she is still there .. winter/summer she walks barefoot .. now she is an Indian citizen and has surrendered her European passport/rights.

Otherwise, can book ashram package holiday online.
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More about Atmananda & other westerners who never left India here;
http://www.newlives.freeola.net/inte..._atmananda.php

The book "Death must Die" based on Atmananda's diaries is a great read for Spiritual types. KK
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Thanks for the advice. I disagree with the Kriya part not taking me anywhere but I appreciate your honest opinion.
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My last comment was for kullukid
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Originally Posted by Louiskline View Post Thanks for the advice. I disagree with the Kriya part not taking me anywhere but I appreciate your honest opinion.
I respect your opinion, they'll definitely take you somewhere, but IMHO they won't lead you where you sound like you want to go (within).
Regarding visions Google St John of the cross talking of the dangers, delusions & misinterpretation of visions & locutions. KK
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Still welcoming anyone's advice on my opening question
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Originally Posted by Louiskline View Post Still welcoming anyone's advice on my opening question
I thought i'd made a good attempt at answering you

There's no shortage of places to stay in the mountains, you need to do a little research on the Himalaya's & see what jumps out at you. If you haven't been to India before it might be wise to start off somewhere touristy like Rishikesh, Dharamsala/McLeod Ganj or Manali to ease yourself in then go further a field once you have a feel for the place. One of my fave places with a great feel about it is Rewalsar Lake, but it's a Tibetan settlement & might not be what you aare looking for, Padmasambhava lived in caves above there doing penance before flying to Tibet on a Tiger to spread Buddhism.
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Well, travelling to the Himalayas is great, and most people seem to enjoy travelling at least once to India. Maybe you could try going with limited expectations and see where it takes you? Or would you consider the trip to India a failure if you don't reach your lofty objectives?

When you say you are "looking for a place where i can stay and do my kriya yoga" it sounds like you are not looking for a guru or classes or anything but want to do your own thing - is that right? Then any place is a good place, even Rishikesh or Manali or McLeodgang or...
Last edited by Rasika; Mar 11th, 2016 at 01:00.. Reason: crossposted with KK
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KK is an old cynic but there is much in what he says. Rishikesh is full of shysters preying on those in search of enlightenment. . I found it a pleasant place but full of fruitbats.

India is a bit of a headful the first time you go, many Americans have problems with it - dirt, dust poverty etc

Retreats are often valuable in yoga but few people can stand it for any length of time at the beginning of practice and there is no reason why you shouldnt have a satisfactory experience down the road as easily in India.

i havent been to Rewalsar but my Tibetan godfather used to spend winters there and was very happy. It look beautiful in photos and I doubt there are many westerners there.

As others above suggest you might benefit by simply going on holiday to India and then thinking about it.
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Here's a link with info on Rewalsar, I've stayed several times in rooms within the grounds of a monastery on the lake, it's very peaceful & no-one bothers you or asks you to join in the activities of the monastery.You'll also find a link to my photo's of Rewalsar on page 2 of the thread. KK

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