the scam that worked out well.....

#1 May 4th, 2011, 16:51
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at least i think it was a scam .
4 years ago now my wife and i decided we would like to do a quick tour of Rajasthan before heading down to Goa for some much needed beach time.
i booked a cheapish hotel in advance in Karol bagh Delhi which supposedly included airport pickup.
upon arrival no driver waiting so we made our way by taxi to the hotel.
upon arriving at the hotel with our printed reservation the reception told us that we had no reservation and the hotel was full but no problem they had a sister hotel nearby and we could stay there.
so a driver took us to the sister hotel and whilst in the car asking us our plans for our trip which we told him about and explained that we would do this independantly on public transport.
he gave us his card which was for a travel agent near our new hotel and said he would help us book train tickets etc
seemed a friendly helpful chap so next morning we popped in and gave him our itinery and he attempted to make train booking but everything seemed full {maybe~maybe not though it was all very short notice}
anyway he suggested a driver for the trip which we hadn,t considered before i asked how much and the price seemed a little steep, i explained that we were more backpacker types and it was a bit out of our league, he came back with another price which seemed much more reasonable.
i can,t remember the exact price but i think it was about 50 gb pounds a day but that included hotels and of course a driver and car.
as we only wanted to devote a week to this trip it all seemed good so we went for it.
anyway it worked out well, the driver was very safe {actually drove too slow for our liking} no horn honking. at our service every day.
the hotels were all basic but good. had a tour of the main Delhi sights. The Taj Mahal was so majestic my wife cried, visited Jaipur and then a few days in Uduipur finishing off when our driver dropped us in Ahmedabad for our flight to Goa. i tipped him well before he headed back to Delhi.
yes we could have done it cheaper and usually we do but no regrets on this one.
#2 May 4th, 2011, 17:11
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so whats the scam ?
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Not all business attempts are scams. In 2009 summer I was travelling by bus from Manali to Dharamsala and suffered a shoulder dislocation while allighting. The next two hours I was in pain at the Dharamsala bus stop not knowing what to do. I was travelling solo.

A private taxi person approached me soliciting transportation. I told him of my condition and that I need to see Doctor/hospital finishing which I would need to search a guest house/hotel for a room. Easier said than done as we know how Government Hospitals function(or don't) and the time taken . Anyway he agreed and I added another clause which is that I would decide how much to pay
and he should accept that. He agreed.

I was so satisfied by his service that I retained him for the next three days and also for a drop to Jalandher.I recommend his name to this day.
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Originally Posted by shashank.aggarwal View Post so whats the scam ?
as i said ''at least i think it was a scam''
albeit a very minor one.

i believe the scam was in the ' despite having a printed reservation, the hotel we booked was apparently full. the drive to the sister hotel allowed the driver to befriend us and so make it likely that we would use his tour services which we did.
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Originally Posted by musicsavedmylife2 View Post as i said ''at least i think it was a scam''
albeit a very minor one.

i believe the scam was in the ' despite having a printed reservation, the hotel we booked was apparently full. the drive to the sister hotel allowed the driver to befriend us and so make it likely that we would use his tour services which we did.
ha ha ha ! if you would have stayed at the hotel, they could have befriended you there as well... and sold their services. The 'job' done by driver could have been pulled off by a bell boy, a reception clerk, a waiter or anyone else...
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Don't understand what the scam was.

Did you pay in advance for the booking that was refused? If no, there is no scam that i see. If yes, did you pay again for the room next door?

50 GBP for a car+driver AND Hotels was a good deal in my opinion. No scam there.
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All's well that ends well. Glad you had a good time!
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Originally Posted by narendra.d View Post Don't understand what the scam was.

Did you pay in advance for the booking that was refused? If no, there is no scam that i see. If yes, did you pay again for the room next door?

50 GBP for a car+driver AND Hotels was a good deal in my opinion. No scam there.
i,m happy to be told that no scam took place at all, as i said i feel i actually benefited from the lets call it 'set of circumstances' that occured where a hotel i had booked, and held a printed reservation for had no record of me, thus fortuitously allowing me to meet a kindly travel agent who after initially trying with me out an expensive quote was happy to bring the price down to secure my custom.
i always had this down as a minor scam, one that i was not at all unhappy about.
i thought maybe a few readers would say 'ah yes, this happened to us'.
if not i,m happy to say i got this one wrong and cross it off my list of 'attempted India scams', there have been a few.
the others being of the well reported type.
nobodys caught me out yet
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Could have been a scam, with cousin uncle/brother manning the front desk happy to deny you a room in order for friends family to get a liitle commision in selling you a tour.....
Then again it might not have been. These type of coincidences happen to me a lot.
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You should be battle hardy in India, given the scams right the moment you step out of Praha Airport

Typically, small and cheapish hotels given their scale of economies will give away a room to a paid customer or a guest standing in the front desk, rather than an unpaid reservation from a foreigner. This overbooking is very common. It occurs from top of the line hotels, to flophouses.

If you have reserved through a booking site or paid through a pre-paid voucher, then an overbooking and unavailibility to accommodate should be a ground to complain or ask for compensation.

Cheapish hotel that promises you a complimentary airport pickup should raise eyebrows. Here is a reason why - Most major cities in the world, car parking at the airport is not free, and is not cheap. Having a driver wait for you, and park his car/van is an outlay that a cheapish hotel may not be able to absorb, unless it is a family owned B&B, and the family does it all as a part of customer service.

Free Airport pickup tends to be the norm in a middle range hotels that are fiercely competing in a low occupancy over supply market. Hotels nearby to an airport have their own shuttle buses because taxis do not want to serve a short distance, and their clientele is slightly different.
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yes there a good few scams in prague if anyone is going i can tell you most of them. i live almost as far from prague as you can get in this country. closer to vienna in fact.
anyone ever down my way i,ll show you around. no scams down here. no curry either.

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