Scammers on Delhi Airport Express

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A guy comes and sits down right next to you in the empty train. He looks worried/anxious/scared. He asks, "Does your phone have any balance? Could i please call my mother? She is sick and in a hospital."
He further explains that he is from Uttar pradesh/rajasthan, en route to rajasthan/uttar pradesh, where his mother is in a hospital. Also, he unfortunately has run out of money. He took a bus from UP to delhi, intending to take a bus from delhi to rajasthan, but now he has no money and won't you please buy him a ticket, and in lieu of giving you cash he will ask his father back home to recharge your phone.
I don't know what the endgame is with these guys. It's a little too much effort for a couple of hundred rupees. As common as this sort of a thing is, and although i felt its so transparently a scam a warning is hardly necessary, he did approach me twice-once about a month ago, when i led him on and got as far as i described above before i got thoroughly bored and told him to buzz off, and once today- so i think somebody must have fallen for it for him to persevere so long. Either that or he's stupid/desperate.

Either way, be warned ye gullible folk.
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I just need /INRnn to get to ____.

Heard it in London, heard it in India...
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Originally Posted by AnkitArora View Post Either that or he's ...desperate.
I think anyone making a living off the streets (by fair means or foul) is desperate. I expect it's a pre-requisite.
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well yeah like i said i expect its very common. but i just wanted to see if anyone could shed some light on whether it stops when, say, a hundred or two is given, or is there something else?

@nick i dont entirely agree with that. its like the arguments on the thread about beggars. not all of them are desperate, some of them are just looking to make a quick buck. but in this case, the return on investment had me wondering. a single ticket costs a minimum of 40 inr on the express, and you can get to jaipur in what, 100?200? i mean, is he such an amateur that not only does he think somebody's going to give him money, does he also believe they'll pay for a deluxe ac coach ride?
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post I just need /INRnn to get to ____.

Heard it in London, heard it in India...
I have heard this a few times in the US - I need a couple of $s to get to the Homeless Shelter.

The Homeless Shelter part makes it even more emotional.
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Have heard similar in the US. I think this is what separates a scam from begging - the lying. I don't like feeling like my intelligence is being insulted. I'm more likely to give someone money if they just ask "can you spare a quarter?" rather than sell me a sad story so I'm guilted into doing it.
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Maybe he really is just being amateurish. Since he's the pioneer of this world-famous scam in India, it is natural that he'll have some kinks to iron out. I remember when the Kashmiri touts first started out in Connaught Place twenty-odd years ago, they were so tentative and awkward and easily shouted down. But now? They own the place!
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I heard something similar in the US in Berkeley then two more times. Must be a tribe..
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Originally Posted by DrRudi View Post I think anyone making a living off the streets (by fair means or foul) is desperate. I expect it's a pre-requisite.
Oooh, not at all. Begging is a well paying business. The ones at Sudder street in Kolkata (the ones with babies) e.g. finance the construction of their appartments outside of town somewhere.

To become a beggar means to cross a social threshold, true. But once in the business, it is easy for most.
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Originally Posted by AnkitArora View Post I don't know what the endgame is with these guys. It's a little too much effort for a couple of hundred rupees.
Could they do something to your mobile - or access information on your mobile that would eventually earn them much more than just a few hundred rupees?

I seem to remember watching young Indians asking unsuspecting foreigners around India Gate if they could use their mobile. As if there was even one young Indian man who does not own a mobile himself. And even if he himself had no money left on his mobile, wouldn't one of his friends - they are always with friends - be able to help out?
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Originally Posted by Wildhorse View Post Could they do something to your mobile - or access information on your mobile that would eventually earn them much more than just a few hundred rupees?

I seem to remember watching young Indians asking unsuspecting foreigners around India Gate if they could use their mobile. As if there was even one young Indian man who does not own a mobile himself. And even if he himself had no money left on his mobile, wouldn't one of his friends - they are always with friends - be able to help out?
Probably a call can be made to a premium number that will levy a huge charge. http://articles.timesofindia.indiati...cellphone-voip

Or get information via cell phone. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahome...-accounts.html
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I don't know what the endgame is with these guys. It's a little too much effort for a couple of hundred rupees. As common as this sort of a thing is, and although i felt its so transparently a scam a warning is hardly necessary, he did approach me twice-once about a month ago, when i led him on and got as far as i described above before i got thoroughly bored and told him to buzz off, and once today- so i think somebody must have fallen for it for him to persevere so long. Either that or he's stupid/desperate.

Either way, be warned ye gullible folk.
Their must be more than a few gullible people for this to work, since the fare in Airport Express is not cheap. You don't say they are working with the Airport Express staff, who sneak them in without fare?
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I think there is a facility, where you can transfer the balance to another user's phone. Not sure if it is available in India. I saw it widely used in Manila, Philippines. Not as a scam but friends helping each other, when they run out of credit on phone.
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airtel allows for balance transfer, but you have to be a member of that particular service.

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