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#1 Jan 22nd, 2011, 19:24
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Can someone please tell me why the concept of ENTRANCE and EXIT doors at public places is an entirely unknown concept in India?

This makes a load of people enter and exit through one doorway. Can you spell C-R-U-S-H-E-D? This was at the Indian Museum, Calcutta.

I also love the idea of this same type of entrance/exit while the other door or gate is padlocked -- this was at the entrance/exit of the Shore Temple, Mamallapuram.

I think the phrase "safety first" is missing from Indian building codes. Wait...are there even CODES?!?!?
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#2 Jan 22nd, 2011, 19:29
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Hey Sama, glad to know you are enjoying your trip! If you want Entrance and Exit, head to a mall in South Kolkata, enter a supermarket, purchase nothing at all (after a nice long browse) and attempt to exit through the entrance. I speak from experience here. I have mentioned this before on IndiaMike, so excuse me for repeating myself. We were almost arrested! And what made the whole thing sillier was that we had checked our shopping bags into the security counter next to the entrance; we retrieved them and then were requested to walk a mile to the exit; we refused and exited the "In" door, to a chorus of shouts! This is at the South City Mall, by the way, in the huge supermarket in the basement. Another IndiaMiker had a similar experience there.
#3 Jan 22nd, 2011, 19:36
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Dunno about other Indians, but I do it because I like Led Zeppelin. In through the out door.
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Originally Posted by Sama View Post I think the phrase "safety first" is missing from Indian building codes. Wait...are there even CODES?!?!?
Well, even in a totally regulated country like Germany the site for last year's Love Parade at Duisburg didn't have dedicated ENTRY and EXIT ramps. The panic that ensued caused 20 deaths and a lot of injuries.
I'm sure in India safety clauses in building codes are in place. It's just that in many places they aren't being enforced.
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it's true that in the west people get stampeded and crushed...but somehow the lack of safety standards -- and I won't even get into how many "lawsuits waiting to happen" I've seen on this trip -- are more glaring and obvious here.

my friend took pictures of Indian construction sites to show her son who is a construction worker...OSHA, anyone?
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I still remember my surprise wandering about the Jama Masjid in Delhi at all the unfenced drops and the "how-many-people-can-you-cram-in-a-minaret" game.

Coming from the UK, the total disregard for health and safety in India is something I find alternately refreshing and disconcerting. On the one hand, it is a blessed relief to get away from the litigation-paranoid "may-contain-nuts" warning on a packet of nuts culture of the UK and US. On the other, the utter contempt for the safety of particularly the average Indian worker in their workplace is scandalous.

Personally, I try to avoid huge crowds cramming in a small place, especially when combined with crazy Indian driving, and for that reason I'm unlikely to visit any major festivals in India, however spectacular.
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our driver from Pondy to Chidabaram thought it hilarious when we told him that if Americans drove like Indian drivers, they'd be in jail.

believe it or not tho, I do find the Calcutta traffic to be a bit more orderly than in Chennai -- I attribute that to a bigger police presence.
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another experience today with the entrance/exit police. this time it was at the Victoria Memorial and I caused a policeman great consternation when I unlocked a door to a gallery to allow egress and ingress -- was a glass double door and one side was bolted with everyone going in and out one side.

so I said (rather loudly), "two doors here!" and unbolted it. people were shocked but not as much as the policeman.

such a rebel....

(and the next man who takes a snap of me with his cellphone is getting it shoved where the sun doesn't shine, but that's a different thread.)
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I found the 4 lane newer national highways just amazing. No speed limit at all, pedestrians running across, motorcycles or farm vehicles going the wrong way, cattle grazing on the medians, no slow lane or fast lane. But hey we went from Kanchipuram back to Madurai in less than 4 hours. But there is obviously no need for cruise control, as the braking and alternating acceleration every 3 minutes would make it a pointless device. Not once did I see any kind of traffic enforcement whatsoever. Its odd how you feel relieved once you get back into the slower city traffic, just because of safety alone.

When Indians come to North America, there is this reverse culture shock like, "I bet you don't have many accidents here, do you?"
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Ever noticed that many of those doors in public halls, etc... open inwards?
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yes, have noticed. and the door of the shower at Oryza the other day was completely a@@ backwards, the hinges were on the wrong side.....

it opened out into the sink so there was no way to get into the shower; you had to push it in and that broke the seal of the shower door (it was already broken.)
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Originally Posted by Sama View Post Wait...are there even CODES?!?!?
You mean to say the British left without leaving behind 5000 pages of building codes ?

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Originally Posted by capt_mahajan View Post Dunno about other Indians, but I do it because I like Led Zeppelin. In through the out door.

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Originally Posted by Golghar View Post Well, even in a totally regulated country like Germany the site for last year's Love Parade at Duisburg didn't have dedicated ENTRY and EXIT ramps. The panic that ensued caused 20 deaths and a lot of injuries.
You mean to say the super disciplined germans ignored their persona and turned into unruly louts

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