Room Theft by Cleaning Staff

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#16 May 21st, 2012, 20:28
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Yes, they definitely work here and have cleaned our room before. Unfortunately I don't speak Kannada so I am unable to communicate with them. I have contacted the manager and his boss is flying in from Delhi to speak to us, so hopefully something happens with that!

I hesitated to call the manager before asking around on this forum because if things escalated, we aren't familiar enough with the area yet to find a new place to live. I also wanted to get a feel for whether or not what happened was common.

Unfortunately I don't have a locked drawer or a safe in the room, or I would be using it. However, I will take all of my money with me now wherever I go and I guess I will lock my electronics (iPod, eReader) in my suitcase.
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Good luck, and once again, I'm sorry for the bad feeling this has brought to your trip.

We have been stolen from twice, from our house, and both times, the fact that it was a trusted person made it much worse.

I used to leave sums of money in a locked case in my room, and never gave it a second thought, feeling that it was safer there than in my pocket or carrying bag.
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I know it`s not a nice feeling to carry everything with you all the time..

But let`s think a minute about the photographers who are carrying their
expensive gear everywhere..

I don`t know what statistics are saying but I think it`s more likely that you "lose"
your money from your room than someone rob you in India.
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Recently, I was with a group of friends at an ultra luxury hotel (as nothing was actually taken, I'll omit the name) in Jaipur. One of the group locked a very valuable piece of jewelry in the hotel room safe. One morning, she fumbled the combination and couldn't get the safe to open. As she stepped out of her room to come to breakfast planning to ask for assistance from the front desk, she encounter a cleaning boy. She mentioned she was having trouble with the room safe. He stepped in, pushed a few buttons (no, she didn't tell him the combination) and the safe door swung open! I had read somewhere that hotel room safes are not safe as most of the staff know how to open them in just such an event or in the event a guest leaves the safe locked after check out. Absolutely true! Think about it ... They have to have an easy way to resolve these situations. The safe is not safe!

As others have advised, I carry my passport, credit cards and most of my cash with me. Even if leaving the hotel room for a short period. I keep other valuables (camera, etc.) in my luggage and always lock all the compartments of my luggage when I leave my room. I frequently stay in 5 star+ hotels but take the same precautions as I would in a "no star" hotel. I once had the sim card stolen from my PDA left in the hotel room while my wife and I went to dinner. In an Orient Express $500 a night hotel room. After hours of listening to the Mexican police terrorize the hotel staff in the courtyard immediately outside our room, I decided that it wasn't worth the risk of having your stuff stolen. Yes, I did get the sim card back ... A staff person was found with a pocket full of them!

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Originally Posted by Big Texan View Post I had read somewhere that hotel room safes are not safe as most of the staff know how to open them in just such an event or in the event a guest leaves the safe locked after check out. Absolutely true! Think about it ... They have to have an easy way to resolve these situations. The safe is not safe!


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Every Marriott, Every IC, Every Sheraton.... I have been to have similar in-room safes. They provide little or no protection. The older safes, ones which had a wierd plus-cross sectioned keys with a heavy plugin locks were a tad better; but just by a wee-bit.

I agree, in room safes are placebos
#21 May 22nd, 2012, 09:56
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#1 rule is to LOCK EVERYTHING UP. I NEVER keep my bags unlocked when I am out of the room, not even in a 5 star hotel (not that I stay in those a lot, just sayin'!)

and of course you would report to the manager, why wouldn't you?

but I must say that the owner or manager might just ask you why your money wasn't locked away, thereby placing the blame on you for losing your money. have seen that happen.
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Recently, I was with a group of friends at an ultra luxury hotel (as nothing was actually taken, I'll omit the name) in Jaipur. One of the group locked a very valuable piece of jewelry in the hotel room safe. One morning, she fumbled the combination and couldn't get the safe to open. As she stepped out of her room to come to breakfast planning to ask for assistance from the front desk, she encounter a cleaning boy. She mentioned she was having trouble with the room safe. He stepped in, pushed a few buttons (no, she didn't tell him the combination) and the safe door swung open! I had read somewhere that hotel room safes are not safe as most of the staff know how to open them in just such an event or in the event a guest leaves the safe locked after check out. Absolutely true! Think about it ... They have to have an easy way to resolve these situations. The safe is not safe!
ALL the hotel room safes (and quite some larger models too) have a master unlock combination (which only a couple of people are supposed to know but you know how it is). If you have really extremely valuable stuff and stay in a luxury hotel then you can deposit it via the front desk against a receipt (in a specially sealed bag) and they will store it in a 'real' safe to which only the duty manager has access and which also requires possession of a special key to open. Needless to say this is too much effort if you want to store 300 bucks in cash but if your significant other decides not to wear her 50k USD diamond ring and earrings then it's probably a good idea.

Never had anything stolen from my room though I admit being cavalier about security. Stay in business hotels about 100 nights/year.
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#23 May 22nd, 2012, 11:32
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We had $300 US taken from the room ... I had $200 US and they only took $100, and they only took about 800 rupees of 6000 from my roommate

$100+ Rs.800 does not equal to $300, the stolen amount you stated. The amount Rs. 800 can be an accounting error by your friend, however, the amount $100 cannot be (?), it is large enough on % basis.

#6 states: It is not common nor is it acceptable.

Au contraire, this is extremely common. Yes, it is unacceptable.

OP wrote in #8: I have never had a problem leaving a bit of money hidden in other countries.

You were lucky! This type of theft is all over the world.

Do not tempt others or be tempted, do not leave any valuables in a hotel no matter how many *'s and no matter which country.
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It is not a perfect world we live in. Sometimes shit happens. When travelling in any country, even one's own, one takes reasonable precautions. Personally I wouldn't cry over some $$$$s or rupees.
I have never had things stolen in my chosen accommodation when I stay in Delhi and sometimes I forget to even lock my room door when I go out. Luck comes into the equation too. Maybe the people who end up with your $$$$$s have more need of it than you did and you have learned one of life's lessons.
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Maybe the people who end up with your $$$$$s have more need of it than you did and you have learned one of life's lessons.
I feel an urgent need to take possession of your valuables but if you're kind enough to just hand them over I'll send my account info. That kind of argument makes me want to kick something.
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Sorry Dillichaat, but that is my philosophy in life. Maybe I would call it "karma".
Hope the heat isn't getting to you over there in Delightful Delhi.
{And I am a dog person... not a cat person}
Cheers, Vee
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I follow this "rule" that if I can`t carry something with me or it`s "too expensive"
for travelling I leave it home because
probably I don`t need it and it`s already available in India.
(like computers for emails etc.)
..and leaving a camera to room is everyones own choice (but if you
want to shoot pictures then you have to carry it with you)
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Sorry Dillichaat, but that is my philosophy in life. Maybe I would call it "karma".
Hope the heat isn't getting to you over there in Delightful Delhi.
{And I am a dog person... not a cat person}
I guessed as much about the dog/cat person thing

And I'm just thawing here in Delhi, wait until I get really worked up about something!

Cheers!
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Originally Posted by nycank View Post Every Marriott, Every IC, Every Sheraton.... I have been to have similar in-room safes. They provide little or no protection. The older safes, ones which had a wierd plus-cross sectioned keys with a heavy plugin locks were a tad better; but just by a wee-bit.

I agree, in room safes are placebos
There are different manufacturers/models - some of which do not have an accompanying user master code . One one visit - it took two full days for the Hyatt staff to 'crack' my room safe .... when I somehow managed to misremember my access code.
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Vee writes:

I have never had things stolen in my chosen accommodation when I stay in Delhi and sometimes I forget to even lock my room door when I go out.

Luck has come into the equation, however, probability is not in your favor if you continue this practice.
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