New Delhi Station & E-ticket scam!

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#76 Mar 25th, 2014, 16:33
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Chicago_one,

Great info and very impressed that you saw through this scam on your very first day in India. Good for you!
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Thank you for the compliment. And yes, U.S. standard "second floor" - First floor for others. Just go up the stairs! haha
Let me tell you, it was extremely frustrating to deal with after arriving just a few hours earlier. I knew not to get too upset and was aware of scams on the streets, but getting surrounded and corralled like cattle was almost my breaking point. Finding out that this was all a hoax made me return with confidence, blow past the touts and happily go get my tickets. After that, I was content and my trip continued nicely.
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Wow this thread is an eye-opener. Neither am I am a foreigner (don't go by my name), nor have I taken a train in the last 10 years or so but interesting to see what bad people we are.

People should research on a country/place before going there but this is a bit much.

Interesting thread though. About how people get scammed in India. Apart from the 600 odd posts in the middle hijacked by the teetotalers. *hic*
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Originally Posted by markrodricks View Post . . . what bad people we are.
Nah. It's just a few bad apples. But they are all concentrated in NDLS. Old Delhi and Howrah are oases of tranquility



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Originally Posted by markrodricks View Post Apart from the 600 odd posts in the middle hijacked by the teetotalers. *hic*
They should all be banned



Chicago_one, thanks for telling your story. It's good for us to be reminded to always warn new visitors about these scams.
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Regarding alcohol on trains - I was able to get my couple bottles of Jameson and hip flask through security without any further questions by railway security. Perhaps they just crack down at certain stations.

As for New Delhi station, the attempts by multiple people to divert foreigners to side entrances was in full effect. They tell you that the main entrance is for Indians only, which is obviously a lie. I ignored most of them and played along with a couple more since I had time to kill and wanted to waste their time for a change. But on the train to Varanasi, spoke to a couple from Mexico City who got diverted by the scammers to a fake tourist office and ended up paying triple what we paid for the same tickets.
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People should research on a country/place
before going there but this is a bit much.

Interesting thread though. About how people get scammed in India. Apart from the 600 odd posts in the middle hijacked by the teetotalers. *hic*
It is called grandma in the attic syndrome. We cannot bring about to tell them "You stupid fool read up, before you buy the plane ticket"

A good percentage of the people in this age age of information glut, have become lazy; and some clearly do not deserve to leave their neighborhood, let alone country

Because there are so many unprepared tourists, I have to drink ! And the tourist-bible-thumping teetotalers have to butt in
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Apparently the authorities in Delhi are not interested to get it fixed. We can only spekulate about the reason behind it

I many countries at the airports and railway stations I have seen warnings about the taxi scam etc. Indian Railways do not even see it being neccessary to post a warning on their booking site.

Perhaps in the periodic reports of local responsibles to their superiors this scam simply does not exist. And how can you warn about something which does not exist? Also this allows the police superior in charge to relaxe and drink chai, most likely sweetened by the travel agencies around the NDRS.
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People should research on a country/place before going there but this is a bit much.
Right, yaar. However we should not downplay the real game behind it. This all is not about the naive travellers not properly researching the destination but an orchestrated discreditation. I have seen myself that the guys claiming to be scammed at the NDRS all had a big ISI logo on theit shirts.
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Thumbs down New Delhi Train Station SCAM

We arrived at New Delhi station in the rain at 5am to catch the 6.05am to Jaipur after a long flight from France.
Laiden with luggage we tried to enter station through the gate but was directed to an area to the left of entrance where they have a X-ray machine checking all bags.
The 'station employee' supervising the X-ray machine asked to look at our tickets (I had pre-booked all train tickets through Cleartrip) which I handed over.
He then tells us that our train is cancelled due to the heavy rain.
He would NOT allow us to enter the station and said we had to visit the Indian Railway booking office to get my ticket refunded and to try and get on the 6.45am train.
We were taken by cab on a short ride which cost us 300 rupees and which I now no costs 50 to a back street - NO Indian Railway booking office - an 'Incredible India' tourist office or so we thought !!!!.

My husband stayed out side with our luggage and I entered the 'tourist office'.
After about 30 minutes of him checking his computer (so I thought !!) all trains were fully booked, buses were full on the 2nd March but had one seat availabile on the 3rd and we need 2 seats and the only means of transport available was a taxi.

After another half an hour of negotiations I got him down from £250.00 to £180.00 in £sterling as we didn't have enough in rupees.

The cab driver drove us all the way to the out skirts of Jaipur and then said the roads were too small for his car to get around and he transferred us to a rickshaw !!!

We assertained on our arrival at our hotel in Jaipur that we had been scammed and the journey costs 5/6,000 rupees (£50/£60)
The reason the cab driver would not drop us at the hotel as because he didn't want to been seen.
Our train did run and was 7 minutes delayed !!!




Mod note: merged with an existing New Delhi station scam thread.
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More scams

Please check your change notes carefully.

Any that are defaced ,with a corner ripped off, any rip to the note anywhere, ask for them to be changed.

Shopkeepers keep them in a special place to dish out to foreigners, I think is been going on since time began, and at stalls in stations its notorious.

Equally if taking foreign notes to India, to exchange, get the bank to check them carefully and do the same yourself.
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That dude at the New Delhi railwaystation is most probably not from the railways (plain clothes, no name-tag etc.?). What really sucks is that the real railway-station people at the x-ray know the guy(s) and the scam. So do the porters actually.

He tried it once with me as well. Told me my train is 9hours late but he could help me... I insisted on checking it myself on the platform... after a few meters up the stairs my porter told me "bad person, this man, bad person". But of course he would not have told me that when the other tried the scam...
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He did have a name tag and flashed an ID card - not that I had a chance to look at it in great detail as I was trying to hold onto our cases and hand luggage.
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Also check all 100 and 500 rupee notes on the back (reverse side of note) for a 'year' printed on the bottom, in the middle (small print)

All notes printed 2005 or before are no longer legal tender and will not be accepted by anyone.

When changing money anywhere in India - Banks, Exchange bureaus, Hotels, insist on new/newish notes and check everyone of them due to the volume of counterfeit notes in circulation.
ALWAYS GET A RECEIPT
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Scams. I add a percentage to my budget just to accomodate them

Had one a road trip . . . somewhere Out There, west of Khajuraho, east of Agra - in a very rural/wild area - we came upon a couple of men in a makeshift tent. Across the road by the tent, a drop-down painted log that blocked the road. I smelled scam from the moment I saw it. But, I had to give a nod (and Rs50) for their inventiveness. For the fact that they had to fell a tree, paint it, buy that little tent and the uniforms (as unofficial a uniform as I've ever seen ).

And then once, on a bus from Paris to Athens. Got the bus in Paris - the bus was gorgeous. Shiny. New. Double decker, luggage underneath, two drivers dressed immaculately . . . had nothing but good thoughts when I saw it. Then, an hour outside of Paris, the bus pulled over unexpectedly. We all got out, with our luggage, and transferred onto a somewhat-less-than-idyllic Greek bus, complete with two very swarthy Greek drivers, complete with their own flasks , which they relied on repeatedly across Europe
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Darmabum, You are describing the Tragic Bus, Paris to Athens, a well-known …. fill in the gaps…




Minnie, don't worry, it does not run any longer.

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