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#1 Mar 1st, 2011, 16:17
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Hi,

I am new member here, and am looking for some advise on cameras and lenses. I have Canon S2 IS, photography is my hobby. I am looking for an upgrade to DSLR, probably. Purpose is macro photography, portrait, and landscape.

I have zeroed on Canon 1000D, Nikon, D3100, or Canon 1100D (if it gets available in a month). I am looking for your help with the lenses. My budget is limited (40K max) and I am not sure which zoom lens to pick. As I am already satisfied with 12x zoom of my S2 IS, am looking for a similar DSLR lens (or lenses).

*18-200 mm lens >> I've read that these are expensive, and cost 25k+. Is there no cheaper lens available?

* 18-55 (kit lens) + 55-200 >> which 55-200mm lens to pick? please advise, I guess 55-200 lens comes under 15K.

* 18-55 + 70-300mm >> I've read that 70-300 mm lens come under 10K (example: Tamron AF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 Di LD Macro Autofocus Lens), does the missing range (55-70) affect much?


Also there some terms that I don't understand much, such as 1:2 magnification, the various terminologies of lenses (nikon ED AF S, canon is usm, etc). I'd also like to buy filters like Polarizing and UV filter for the lenses.
#2 Mar 2nd, 2011, 07:15
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I have a nikon d90. I have the 70-300 with VR from Nikon and it's great. I got it for under 500 CAD last year. The kit lens that comes with the camera is a great little lens, that I've really enjoyed having. I dont think i'd want the 18-200. I rarely use my 70-300 because of the weight, and the 18-200 would require having a pretty heavy lens on your camera all the time. A 18-55 and a 70-300 or 55-200 would cover your wide angle shots and give you a fair bit of zooming action.

As for filters, I got some great ones off Ebay that were way more affordable than the filters they sell at the store and still got great quality and good names. Make sure you're getting something that's multi-coated! Don't cheap out on filters if you choose to use one and make sure it's good quality. If you put crap glass on a good lens it makes your lens crappy. This is especially true for UV filters, where they make some REALLY cheap and crappy ones.

VR- vibration reduction (nikon's term, other lens manufacturers have different words like VC vibration compensation, etc)
AF- autofocus
AF-S Means it has an autofocusing motor inside the lens (essential for cameras without one in the body)
Magnification I think means how close you can get to an item to focus (you cant put most lenses next to a penny and focus it, you normally hve to stand further away)
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Even though I shoot Canon, I would second ktkates on Nikon's 70-300 mm lens suggestion. It's excellent. You can look at Nikon's 18-55mm lens or third party alternatives. You might want to check this site for lens reviews

http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/

If you opt for Canon, you can go with Canon's 70-300 mm (not the L, or luxury version, which runs close to USD 1500) and a third party 17-55 APS-C lens.

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Thanks you all.

Any idea about specific 70-300 and 55-200mm lens models, and their prices in india/delhi?
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I am not sure what specifics you are asking for. If you are looking for reviews, here you go:

Canon 70-300 f/4.0-5.6 IS (image stabilization)

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/R...ns-Review.aspx

Nikon 70-300 VR (vibration reduction, same as canon's IS)

http://www.bythom.com/70300VRlens.htm

India prices, I would leave that for somebody else.

arindam

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For Nikkor 55 - 300 VR - Price Between 18,500 - 20,000
For Sigma 70 - 300 - Price Between 7200 - 7500 (Nikon Mount )
For Tamron 70 - 300 - Price Between 7200 - 7500 ( Nikon Mount ).

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Avoid the 18-200mm. The 70-300 is excellent for the price but what do you need that focal range for? This lens is not much good for architecture, portraits or macro! You should look at a 50mm 1.8 AF-D for portraits and maybe a 60mm 2.8 AF-S Micro for Macro (Nikon calls lens with macro ability 'micro' for some reason).
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I would say the standard Kit lens of 18-55 is good enough for macro, portrait and landscape for a newbie. I second @Golden_Chapati's advice. Stick to the simple now. Shoot and see where your interests take you or feel lacking/constrained by equipment, then choose the lens.
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Originally Posted by narendra.d View Post I would say the standard Kit lens of 18-55 is good enough for macro, portrait and landscape for a newbie. I second @Golden_Chapati's advice. Stick to the simple now. Shoot and see where your interests take you or feel lacking/constrained by equipment, then choose the lens.
I agree, first get a lens with a lot of flexibility/versatile features and then see what you will like to specialise in and choose another lens then.

the suggestion about the prime lens is good. I am going to get one as soon I can afford it.Ha!
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If you really want to take your photography to a new level then consider the new Nikon D7000. This camera has as much if not more functionality as the semi-pro D300 and is a good choice for the budget conscious.
Happy hunting
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Originally Posted by saltaholic View Post If you really want to take your photography to a new level then consider the new Nikon D7000. This camera has as much if not more functionality as the semi-pro D300 and is a good choice for the budget conscious.
Happy hunting
Also a good all purpose lens would be a standard 17-55mm. I would suggest an AF-S f/2.8 if you can afford it.
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The D7000 does not require filters as the camera adjust for 19 different conditions (still learning to use them all and having a great time!!) I would strongly recommend a good B&W UV filter however, both to protect your lens investment and because B&W filters are so good they do not contribute any distortion to the photo.
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Originally Posted by saltaholic View Post If you really want to take your photography to a new level then consider the new Nikon D7000. This camera has as much if not more functionality as the semi-pro D300 and is a good choice for the budget conscious.
Happy hunting
thanks salty, but i cant get into a new body now. my D90 is not yet one year old. A good auto focus telephoto is what i am looking for. need to find people who have gone digital and VR and not using their old non vr film lenses.

anywya my skills got a long way to go before I get anywhere.
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Originally Posted by saltaholic View Post If you really want to take your photography to a new level then consider the new Nikon D7000. This camera has as much if not more functionality as the semi-pro D300 and is a good choice for the budget conscious.
Happy hunting
Not quite:- D300 has faster focusing, much faster buffer, higher frame rate, much better build, way more external controls, a low pass filter on the sensor (these often cost more than the sensor themselves) and a few other features (as far as I know, you can't do 14 bit RAW or TIFFS with the D7k). What the D7k does do better is video, higher ISO capability, cheaper (but you can buy a used D300 for around 600 quid) and more pixels. On paper the D7k looks like a very attractive alternative, and in some ways it is, but when you have them in your hand, I feel the D300 is still a superior camera. The D400 is only around the corner and should be fantastic, but will no doubt have a price to match.


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Originally Posted by saltaholic View Post The D7000 does not require filters as the camera adjust for 19 different conditions (still learning to use them all and having a great time!!) I would strongly recommend a good B&W UV filter however, both to protect your lens investment and because B&W filters are so good they do not contribute any distortion to the photo.
Skylight filters, colour filters etc are not really needed in digital photography - this is true for the D7000 as it is for the D40. However, some filters offer things photoshop can't.

Firstly, a Hoya UV filter is a good idea if your in a risky environemnt i.e. near the sea, anywhere near sand or drunk people. Remember to take off the filters for shooting in harsh lighting conditions or for long exposures at night - all filters contribute towards flare, even the coated ones.

Secondly, a circular polarizar is pretty essential. It increases saturation and makes shooting in harsh light easier, not to mention removing the reflection from water, glass etc. They also come in handy for shooting in the mountains to reduce the chance of overexposure on those snowy peaks.

Thirdly, ND Filters (Neutral Density) and Grad ND Filters are very useful. The former comes in stops (i.e. ND 3, ND 8). These are basically sunglasses for your camera. They reduce the amount of light which enters the glass. This is useful to get longer shutter releases in broad daylight (i.e. to give the impression of movement to flowing water) and to use wider apertures (to isolate backgrounds) in broad daylight. Grad filters do the same but are a bit like polarized sunglasses i.e. darker at the top, transparent at the bottom of the filter. These are great for producing evenly exposed sunsets.

Lastly, B+W filters are good, but Hoya are the best in terms of value/cost ratio. I use Hoya PRO filters and for Grad Filters, TIFFEN are excellent. Hope this helps.
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Thanks everyone for your replies. Sorry, I am late to respond as I was away.
I might go for Nikon D3100 with kit lens. I also considered Sony NEX 3, but read its battery life isn't good (200 shots), and there aren't many lenses available for it.
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