Canon 1100D or Canon EOS600D

#1 Nov 1st, 2012, 19:28
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Namaste everyone,

Pls help me choose a camera for myself.
My basic requirements are:
1. Night vision; and
2. Low light

I am fond of capturing pics of sunset, sunrise, full moons, starry nights and general people on roads at evenings. Plus i attend a lot of concerts too.
I require this for my personal use.
I have narrowed these two down on my own since last 4 months.
Thanks.

God bless
Ekta.
#2 Nov 1st, 2012, 19:56
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If price is not a barrier, go with 600D. The fact that its ISO range runs one stop beyond that of 1100D may be one reason, but certainly not the main one.

A bigger and brighter viewfinder should come handy under low light condition. You will need faster lenses with bigger aperture (f/2.8 or more) in future, sooner or later for shooting "general people on roads at evenings". The central focus point of 600D is extra sensitive for those lenses which is not the case for 1100D.

Beside, the fully articulated 3.0" lcd screen is also a big surplus over the 2.7" fixed screen of other model.
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You probably already know this. With Canon, the smaller the Model Number, the more high end or advanced it is on a Budget-Prosumer-Professional scale.
So without going into too many specifics of your shooting style, get the 600D.
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Thanks Biman for your reply.
Is 600D good for concerts too? With low light and flashing lights.
My disasters were gigs of David Guetta, Poets of the Fall and Cypher 16 to name a few.
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Well, Canon is unlikely to improve David Guetta's performance ....

As an aside, are you dead set on buying a canon? past history?
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I have asked few people and they have told Canon is great. I am open for more suggestions. I have a budget of Rs. 60,000/-
David Guetta's performance was awesome. Sadly couldn't capture a single decent picture. All i have are sweet memories inside my head.

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That's a lot of money (Seriously).

Low light is a very tricky subject. Boosting ISO is not a great solution all the time as you'd sacrifice the 'film feel' and get grainy images. Still, a higher possible ISO always helps. A good lens, steady hands and quickly determining what ISO to use in a given condition is going to be very helpful. Shooting under strobelights is even messier and it's best to have a fast recharge flash (preferably external which is a bit of a necessity if you're seriously looking to take photos of concert or a wedding), and something with high sync-speed will score above many other factors.

The majority ends up recommending Canon as canon does have a fantastic line up of lenses and through the years when film SLRs were popular in India, most journalists shot with Canon so there's a good amount of legacy. However, their EF-S series lenses (what goes on APS-C sensors) and the Nikon's DX lenses are comparable in optical quality with nikon scoring a bit higher in the build quality. Where canon has an edge is the full frame lenses (their L series is outstanding, I've had the previlige of test-shooting a few times) but you're not looking to go that high with the money. At the entry level, the nikon build quality is better and if you're buying one camera that'd last you a few years then you'd do well to consider Nikon as well. I dont recommend pentax due to their notable absence from India else they make amazing cameras for the money (see K-5 output shots on pbase).

What camera do you shoot with currently?
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Hi Vaibhav,

I am concert junkie. I attend a lot of Gigs and events. Flash photography is prohibited.
Thanks for your detailed reply.
According to you, Nikon is the best. Pls suggest a good DSLR suiting my need.
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Lady Loki View Post According to you, Nikon is the best.
I didnt say this at all. I'm only suggesting your consider Nikon as well. You'd do well to look at Nikon D7000 since you're limited to a no external flash situation. The kit lens is 18-105 which should be fine for your needs. It's a bit higher than your budget in India.
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Nikon D 7000 is out of stock in Kolkata.
Yes its out of my budget
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Well, at the risk of sounding like a nikon fanatic, I'd urge you to look at D3200. It's actually entry level series and hence I didnt check that for you earlier, but I did a head to head with 600D and came up with this: http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon-600d-vs-Nikon-D3200 . A comparison with 7D shows 7D as the winner, expectedly, but note the outcome of high ISO and color depth scale, two points that are crucial when shooting sans flash at your preferred venues. http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon_EOS_7D-vs-Nikon-D3200

I'd recommended this model to Prakaant (on this forum) and he seems happy: check this thread for results: http://www.indiamike.com/india/photo...t-buy-t179194/

A website I rather trust - adorama has good things to say about d3200 when it comes to low light: http://www.adorama.com/alc/0012810/a...-ISO-All-Stars.

Do not disparage the camera just because it is cheaper - get good glass instead with the savings. Your equipment is only as good as the weakest link.

HTH,
Vaibhav
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Hi,

I would like to suggest you Canon 600D,rather than Canon 1100D, not only for more megapixels but for better noise reduction & better ISO also.
Please go through this link,
http://www.canon.co.in/personal/comp...f-s18-55-is-ii
Thanks & Regards,
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Shooting from a crowd in low light, more mega pixels might not be a good thing, as it more mega pixels enhances camera shake and motion blur!
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Originally Posted by Klompen View Post more mega pixels enhances camera shake and motion blur!
Where did you get this factoid from? Motion blur is an optical function and not a sensor quality one. See this : http://www.gdanmitchell.com/2011/05/...ore-megapixels and http://nikonrumors.com/2012/04/09/mo...el-count.aspx/

High megapixels cause large files which is usually a problem but if you need to crop the annoying heads in front of you, it's a blessing!
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From feedback on the D800 even Nikon in their user manual acknowledges this!!!

"While its high pixel count of 36 megapixels gives the D800/
D800E resolution unrivalled by previous digital SLR cameras,
a side effect is that bokeh and blur are made that much more
obvious. Realizing the full potential of a camera with over
30 million pixels involves a thorough appreciation of bokeh
and blur, careful selection of settings and of tools (such as
lenses and tripods), and working with the best possible subjects."

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