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#1 Oct 30th, 2013, 10:42
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Hi there!

Are there any Canon full frame shooters (5D classic / mark2 / mark iii / 6 D / 1D etc) on the forum? OR nikon D600/610/700 shooters?

I have to ask a few questions.

Please let me know if you use a canon/nikon FF camera currently.

thanks in advance
Vaibhav

p.s. Edited this to include Nikon though the system would typically be more expensive.
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You have included me through the edit. Me nikon full frame user...smiling
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I only have a D7000. I tried a D600, but for me, the smaller AF coverage was a major problem since I take action shots of my son in sports, and I need a wider area of AF coverage. Perhaps one day the D800, but not anytime soon.
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I use a Canon 5D MKIII.

I should add that I bought it in Canada through a Canon friends & family deal, so I can't help with India pricing.
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I have a full frame Canon Mk II. Love it.

What info do you need?
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Thank you all. To the FF shooters I have the following question:

a) I cant afford a new canon 6D or 5Dii (leave alone the venerable Diii). The best I can do is a used 5D (original) or a 6D refurb. I was looking at Keh camera for the used and the canon direct for 6D. Is it safe to buy from either of these sources? The shutter count on either piece is not quoted by the seller (I emailed them) as these are used / refurbished pieces.

b) I'm tired of changing lenses (Indian conditions, so very dusty) so I plan on adding a single 24-105 F/4 L series from Canon. I think with the 6D refurb or 5D I can perhaps crop a bit? Is that sufficient. Exif analysis of the last 20,000 photos taken with the D40 show 90% to be in the range of 18-70 APS-C focal length which is the same as this lens on full frame. I will probably not get some bird shots but pretty much everything else.

Is this equipment going to be sufficient for a walkabout photographer? That's the primary use of the camera.

that's all.
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The 5D and the 24-105 f/4 L were made for each other - the perfect walkaround combination.
I have the IS version, and with high ISO settings you can do decent night shots. On my most recent trip to India I took half my daylight pics at f/22 just to see what that lens could do at full frame, and the results were outstanding. It is also a very good video lens.
Looking at the specs, the 6D appears to be a good deal relative to the 5D MkIII, and I'd recommend that over a used 5D because I have seen how some "pros" treat their gear.
My current kit is a 5D for regular shooting and 7D for tele, macro (because it has multiple wireless strobe capability) and stumbling around inside dark caves and temples (onboard flash).
And a final note: the Canon 1D is not a full-frame body. You might think that it is, given the cost, but it ain't. The 1Ds series is full-frame, as are the most recent X and C versions.

Once you get your full frame body kit, the first thing you want to try is a Canon 16-35mm L lens.
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Thanks. Yes, the 24-105 f/4 L is the IS version. The 6D is a canon store refurb.

6D also doesn't have an onboard flash (most of my walkabout is in old temples, cave temples and whatnot). I'd have to get a supplementary one then. I can't afford a 16-35 (didnt even know something like that existed! Checked new and refurbed prices, can't do.)
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Well i use a FF Nikon.

Firstly, why would you want to buy a full frame? Its not really important for most uses.

Secondly, what lens to buy is really a very personal choice. I know professional photographers who go on a trip armed only with a 50mm prime. I do that too.

Depends on what you want to shoot. You may not want to shoot everything. If you do, then perhaps getting one of those canon and nikon compacts with some huge zoom ratios may help. I have a friend who shoots around with one of these and gets stunning bird shots.

I often go for walk abouts with a FujiFilm XPro1 and an 18mm prime. It's great for environmental portraits as well as reasonable wide shots. It has a panorama feature for extra wide shots.

Every lens is the best lens

But if your purpose is to use these images for large gallery prints, then not only do you want a great camera, but also fantastic lenses, tripods (good ones can be verrrrry expensive) and a great place to process and print our raw images. Overall, very expensive.
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Firstly, why would you want to buy a full frame? Its not really important for most uses.
Not for most but perhaps for a few that I wrote on this other thread when I was in the frame of mind to spend for an upgrade to another APS-C format (quoted below)

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Originally Posted by vaibhav_arora View Post Hello

I'm strongly contemplating upgrading to either of these two cameras from my current camera - a Nikon D40 (with 18-55 lens + 55-200 VR + sb-400).

The camera I have is perfectly good but sometimes I feel a bit limited to have to go through the menu, low light limitations and a general feeling that I have probably pushed it enough.

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Originally Posted by theloststory View Post Depends on what you want to shoot. You may not want to shoot everything. If you do, then perhaps getting one of those canon and nikon compacts with some huge zoom ratios may help. I have a friend who shoots around with one of these and gets stunning bird shots.
I rarely shoot wildlife or birds. I mostly shoot architecture, art details on temples, forts, palaces, old buildings, some culture and cityscape. I don't want a P&S or a bridge camera as I already have a DSLR and dont see myself going back.


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I can't afford all of them, and I certainly don't want to carry very many.
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If you are totally strapped for cash, I'd recommend the Canon 7D using that same 24-104 f/4L IS lens. The 7D is far and away the best APS-C sensor camera available from a price/value perspective. If I hadn't got such a sweet deal on my 5DMkIII I would have bought another 7D. It's still my choice for wildlife, portraits and handheld video. Just don't use a kit lens.
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I have the original 5D, 5DmkII, and 5DmkIII. Haven't used the 6D but my pro buddy has been using one since his 5DmkII died and he's been very happy with it. Image quality on the 5D1-3 are all very similar up to ISO 1600. Biggest issue with original is the LCD looks tiny after you've shot with the later models. Sometimes you'd like better feedback as to whether or not you got your shot. The AF on the latest 5D is heaps better than the previous but still shouldn't dissuade someone from them if money is an issue.

I do shoot with many primes and all my zooms are f/2.8. I'd have real issues if I was stuck at f/4. I'd rather have a couple of good primes, probably a 35mm and 85mm would do the job for most of what I do. Though on my last trip I used the 16-35 f/2.8L quite a bit. Changing lenses isn't something to be feared, even in India. Invest in a good sensor cleaning kit and you'll be able to keep your images free of the dust bunnies. I swear even my original 5D gets very little dust after the initial cleaning. 99% of the time a blast of air will get everything off in a flash.
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Thanks Michael especially for the tip about sensor cleaning. There's a significant price difference between a used 5D and a refurb'd 6D. I really like the colors out of the 5D (whatever I've seen on flickr at least) hence the leaning towards canon. Else, I'd have stuck with nikon (within APS-C).

Looked at your gallery - lovely photos. I'm not a pro though so the gear upgrade thoughts are purely for satisfaction hence the thought of one / few lenses. Quick question for you - some of the pushkar photos (the ones that include the camel traders), what kind of lens were they taken with?
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Canon (USA) sells 6D refurb body for $1400+~

Buy refurbished. Used is crapshoot.
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The FujiFilm XPro 1 is ideal for you. Read its reviews.
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