Please Help required for my kitten

#1 Sep 17th, 2013, 17:26
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Hi
I live in Dwarka , New Delhi and this request is reg my kitten Chicku.
I found tiny Chicku on the road . Very small , with no teeth
and I figured it wouldnt survive without help. I had no experience with
animals and I have raised it against all odds. He has become a part of my life.
Now Chicku is 6-7 months. I need help regarding neutring / sterilisation . His blood tests show a low platelet count of 218 against a minimum of 300.
I went to Sanjay Gandhi pet care and also to Frendicoes. But I am really
apprehensive since its still a small kitten and India is very much a dog country. I heard about Jeevashram also but so far I am not confident about the places / vets i have seen.
I would really appreciate if anyone could help me with good vets reg cats in Delhi or any association / person having a cat.
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Your kitten is at a perfect age to be neutered, so go ahead. In any case, you were at the right place as vet is the final authority on this, so just do as they say.
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You are right to be concerned, although I would not call India a dog country, indeed many vets have more experience with dogs than cats.

Before doing anything make sure you vaccinate the kitten. Animal hospitals can be full of bacteria and it is easy for an unvaccinated animal to get sick.

It is best to deworm the kitten two or three days before the vaccinations.

Three weeks after the vaccination you can sterilise although it would be better if you get a booster as well. Make sure you get a real vaccine which is difficult as these have to be imported and only a few vets do so. The cost price of a cat vaccine is US$8 so anybody offering you something cheaper is cheating. Real vaccines come with stickers on the vials that can be pealed off and put on the vaccination record. So if you do not get these stickers it means the vaccine is not real. Unfortunately even this is not cheat proof because there is an enthusiastic trade in empty vials with stickers on it. Government hospitals never import cat vaccines so the only place to get them is a real good and honest vet. Not easy to find.

Anyway before vaccinating you need to find out why the RBC is so low for which you need to get a blood test done. In addition I would put the cat on a diet of mackerel or sardine only (if you can afford this). These fish contain lots of iron which can help to increase the RBC.

I would recommend you contact Dr. Choudhary in Anand Niketan. She has a big heart for the strays and people who help them and she is technically also very good.

Great you are taking so good care of this lucky little cat :-)
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Thanks

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Thanks. I have got him vaccinated . I will have to check the labels though with the local vet who did it. I will keep Chicku's progress updated! I had all along thought that its a girl and called her Chicku chiky , now its discovered its a boy . Really tough to manage as I am in office and my parents have to take care . I have started giving him chicken , since I am a veg , knowledge of fishes is also limited.He has been given deworming syrup many times but I dont think he is completley cleared of worms . He is very goodlooking kitten , I researched and there is undeniable resemblance to the Abyssinian cat , even with the behaviour , coat , M mark etc. Though the history of Aby is linked to Egypt , some records have written that its actually the Indian Ocean region .I am very concerned of his biting and scratching behaviour , not able to train him on this . There is a general wonderment in the locality regarding my ardent devotion to Chicku , people just dont realise that a pet is a pet . It ceases to be a dog or cat but is a live member of your family and becomes a part of you .
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Make sure you get a real vaccine which is difficult as these have to be imported and only a few vets do so. The cost price of a cat vaccine is US$8 so anybody offering you something cheaper is cheating. Real vaccines come with stickers on the vials that can be pealed off and put on the vaccination record. So if you do not get these stickers it means the vaccine is not real. Unfortunately even this is not cheat proof because there is an enthusiastic trade in empty vials with stickers on it. Government hospitals never import cat vaccines so the only place to get them is a real good and honest vet.
birds, I was not clear on one thing, and can you please help; that is on importing vaccines. What is wrong with generic drugs manufactured in India? Doesnt it bring down the medical cost of animals?
I mean; are the Indian variety recorded to be mostly of the spurious kinds, or have they been scientifically proven to be less effective than the imported branded vaccine? I dont understand the need to go for $8 vaccine if the same is available for a far less price.

And Chicku, we would love to see Chicku.
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To my knowledge cat vaccines have not been available for a long time in India, over a year now, except with vets who import it themselves.

In India they often vaccinate the cat and dogs against rabies and not against cat flu (or distemper and parvo for dogs). During the sterilisation, the cat runs the risk to get cat flu in the hospital and not of rabies (unless they put animals together). Most people do not know with what their cat has been vaccinated and they think they have do the right thing and that the cat is protected while it has not.

Ashya, to my knowledge cat flu vaccines are not produced in India at all. Also dog vaccines are not produced in India. The only vaccine produced in India is the anti-rabies vaccine (and not even all). I may be wrong if the situation has been changed very recently.

Chicku, for deworming is it good to use a Plozin or Drontal tablet (1 tablet per 10kg) and repeat it after 2 weeks. The liquids tend to be weaker.
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No idea about cat vaccines at all, but I will be surprised if firms like Merial are not selling those in India, even if the market is negligible.
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Originally Posted by jituyadav View Post No idea about cat vaccines at all, but I will be surprised if firms like Merial are not selling those in India, even if the market is negligible.
Check it out and let me know. I would be delighted with the vaccines would be manufacturered in India

Just checked the website of Merial but they make only poultry vaccine and not cat or dog vaccine. I think the reason may be that still too few people vaccinate their pets in India so it is not commercially worth anybody's while yet, unfortunately.
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I did not mean manufactured in India, but sold by Indian subsidiary here in rupee denomination and so at much less cost. However, you are right that it may be commercially nonviable to take any step in selling pet vaccines here due to limited demand. Will let you know if I find out anything.
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Thanks birds for the clarification. I guess you are right. We end not vaccinating animals against any diseases except rabbies. I will also check from my end if anything is available.
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Hi more Chicku
my kitten seems to have penchant for attracting complexities
The vet said that he has only one testes, and for neutring its best to have abdominal sugery to locate the hidden one.
The problem with this is that there may not be a second testes and locationg it may be result in large incision
I am scared and think that its best to avoid a major surgery as post operative is very scary..........
Wont neutring the exposed testes be good enough as Chicku is just 7 and half months old

Grateful for immmediate feedbacks
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He is still very young, give him one or two months longer, the second teste may descend later.

I would also ask a second opinion if I were you.

In any case, is your kitten fully vaccinated against cat flu etc?? To operate a cat without full vaccination brings about a much larger risk than looking for a second teste.
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I am amused reading the funny things said about cats by various people scattered across this forum. What is the problem if a cat has normal sex like us? On one side we humans are breeding like flies and if a alley cat wants to have some spread of its genes we go all out to neuter them. I do not know any area that is overrun by cats. Dogs are another problem all together. They have gangs that attack people, bite people, spread diseases like rabies occasionally to unsuspecting humans. I have been keeping cats for more than 3 decades. They have never hurt me, never ever went for my throat and never gave me any diseases and always gave me good omen by crossing my path he..he. Additionally they keep my blood pressure under control that goes up looking at the atrocious activities of people in the cities and on the television. I have also handled cat poop all these years and never had any problem. May be now some one from west will frighten me of some deadly protozoan diseases. We are from an era when there were no vets and never heard of disease from cats unlike those from dogs. Perhaps Indians are immune to many of these protozoan diseases from birth. If there is any research on the subject directly linking cats to human deaths, I would be happy to know. I always give my cats full freedom to have unprotected sex whenever they want. None of the males in my area are neutered as far as I know, and still the population in my area is self regulated. Neither any cats are vaccinated nor wantonly killed. They give good warm up to dogs in the area everyday and I have not seen any getting killed. There may be some done with at young age but not the older ones. We as a nation are turning into neutering obsessed nation that we were not 30 years back and still we were neither tripping over cats then nor we are now. Just think about it. The one reason some people tell me from neutering cats is that the kittens grow up only to get run over by speeding cars. Are we stopping producing children for the same reason?By the way I am an Animal Ecologist and Researcher and a Ailurophile! Long live Cats!
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Originally Posted by maverick datye View Post IDogs are another problem all together. They have gangs that attack people, bite people, spread diseases like rabies occasionally to unsuspecting humans.
Any warm-blooded animal bite, including those of cats should be treated as a potential candidate for rabies. True, dogs are the main culprit. But that doesnt absolve cats, monkeys etc.
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Originally Posted by maverick datye View Post I am amused reading the funny things said about cats ... ... ... I have been keeping cats for more than 3 decades.
I've been keeping cats for more than three decades too. Luckily I know a bit more about them than you do.
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They have never hurt me, never ever went for my throat and never gave me any diseases
Well, I went for Rabies innoculations after the stray I feed bit me. You'll be glad to hear that I still feed him
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May be now some one from west will frighten me of some deadly protozoan diseases
Try Google right now. Though I don't think it is of any great risk if you are not a pregnant woman.

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We are from an era when there were no vets
Are you pre-historic?
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and never heard of disease from cats unlike those from dogs.
There's heaps of things I've never heard of: I'm happy to admit that it is called ignorance.

By the way, you may like this one: I used to have a girlfriend who was a nurse. Re stuff like my cats sleeping on the bed, she would say, "animals spread diseases, and I would reply, "Not as much as humans do!"

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None of the males in my area are neutered as far as I know, and still the population in my area is self regulated.
Well, yes, the population would be self-regulated. Vehicles and dogs lend a hand, as do the tribal people who kill and eat them.
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By the way I am an Animal Ecologist and Researcher and a Ailurophile! Long live Cats!
You are are a researcher? That I don't believe.

Anyway, from one cat lover to another... Welcome!

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