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Originally Posted by holikarang View Post yes, it's a nice forum! We all share the India fever...

holi (festival of colours) ka (of) rang (colour), holi ka rang= the colour of holi. This has become my signature especially as a henna arist but not only. Many people also know me as Holi or Holika!

Whereabout in Italy? I'm from Venice, and congratulations from your upcoming wedding!!
What a lovely nickname !! do you know some hindi ? I would love to have enough time to spend in India to learn some, in the meanwhile I try to catch few words from movies ..
I am and live in Florence and i confess: I have never visited Venice !! we live in such beautiful town, beautiful and full of tourists .. do you understand what I mean ?? so everytime I have been thinking "I go" then I think "..next time !"

I adore the Indian crowd though !!!!!

Thanks for the congratulation Holikarang

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come on, you go to India and have never been to Venice?? LOL

you shuld really come then, Venice is not only atouristic place, it's special!

Yes, I know Hindi, I got my degree in Oriental languages.

I am not much into crowdy places, but for India I even face those!
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Originally Posted by holikarang View Post come on, you go to India and have never been to Venice?? LOL

you shuld really come then, Venice is not only atouristic place, it's special!

Yes, I know Hindi, I got my degree in Oriental languages.

I am not much into crowdy places, but for India I even face those!


..... I Promise I Will Go !!!!!!!! ... but after Karnataka and assam !!! which will be on March .... October could be a nice time for Venice !!!!!

I like crowdy indian places but also love quite assames ones !!! have you visited that area ??

Wow !! what an interesting degree !!! are you visiting india also for your occupation ??

Ciao and buonanotte

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Well, my visits to India until now were more due to my studies than tourism, so I haven't visited many places, I'll try to find the chance to see other places too in the future anyway. I'm here because I learn music from a teacher in Delhi.
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It' great to see that so many people travel in North East India and really like it. I have been travelling in this area since the past 8 months, having a wonderful experience. Currently in Assam working with the Bodo community, in a remote village on the outskirts of Manas national park. From here will proceed towards Namdapha for some time.

If you are going to Shillong then it would really be well worth to visit the village of Mawlynnong which is a 3 hour drive from Shillong. It has been awarded as the cleanest village in Asia and is really a great place. If you have the time then definitely go over there.
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Hi Piran, good to know that your trip is going well. Thanks again for your most useful contacts in the North East.
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Originally Posted by piran_e View Post It' great to see that so many people travel in North East India and really like it. I have been travelling in this area since the past 8 months, having a wonderful experience. Currently in Assam working with the Bodo community, in a remote village on the outskirts of Manas national park. From here will proceed towards Namdapha for some time.

If you are going to Shillong then it would really be well worth to visit the village of Mawlynnong which is a 3 hour drive from Shillong. It has been awarded as the cleanest village in Asia and is really a great place. If you have the time then definitely go over there.
thank you for the advice, I have searched and found some pictures of Mawlynnong, is it near Cherrapunjee ? last time I missed the livingroots !! ... I know it's a real pity !!!! maybe next march ...

What kind of project with Bodo community ? It sounds very, very interesting maybe hard to manage but what a place !! , let me know,please !!

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Originally Posted by theyyamdancer View Post Hello gdurgac, and welcome to India Mike! I am very happy to see you here as I am also planning a trip to Arunachal Pradesh via Assam & Meghalaya for March/April this year. The tentative itinerary is as follows:

Day 1: Kolkata to Dibrugarh (by plane)
Day 2: Dibrugarh to Pasighat (ferry crossing of Brahmaputra)
Day 3: Pasighat
Day 4: Pasighat
Day 5: Pasighat to Along
Day 6: Along to Mechuka
Day 7: Along
Day 8: Along to Daporizo
Day 9: Daporizo to Ziro
Day 10: Ziro
Day 11: Ziro to Itanagar
Day 12: Itanagar
Day 13: Itanagar to Kaziranga (stay probably at Wild Grass)
Day 14: Kaziranga
Day 15: Kaziranga - Bhalakpung - Shillong
Day 16: Elephanta waterfalls
Day 17: Shillong to Bomdila
Day 18: Bomdila
Day 19: Bomdila to Dirang
Day 20: Dirang
Day 21: Dirang to Tawang
Day 22: Tawang
Day 23: Tawang
Day 24: Tawang to Zemithang (excursion)
Day 25: Tawang to Guwahati by helicopter and Guwahati to Kolkata by connecting flight.


I may have questions later, but so far this is the route, and we are happy with it.

My questions to you, gdurgac, are: Did you yourselves visit Siang province (i.e. Pasighat, Mechuka)? What were the roads like? Do you have any advice to give? Is it possible to book ahead the Government Circuit House in Mechuka? Any contacts?

Thanks.
The itinerary sounds good, but stressful. We were there for 40 days in fall 2005. And accept the resting days we spent the whole time in our car. the roads were bad - the average speed (accept the road to Itanagar)was 15 - 20 km/h and so it sounds hard: 1 day for the trip between tawang and zemithang and back. so if you are interested - than i can look for our itinerary and our comments. so we change the plan to go to Pasighat, because somebody said: the ferry between Dibrugarh is out of order, somebody said, no - it works.
I want to go back in future time to AP - but, only to some different places. For instance I prefer to go to Anini and try to combine a trekking and cultural trip to the tribes in this area.
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Hello again, Omamone. You found my itinerary! There's a mistake in the middle there at Day 16 which should be Elephanta in AP next to Bomdila and not Elephanta near Shillong. So Day 17 should read just Elephanta to Bomdila.

Well, if it is not too much trouble for you I would like to know your detailed itinerary.

Actually, I thought we were doing this route quite slowly, given that we know the roads will be poor.

So, we've got 2 weeks in hand to fine tune things. I suppose that improvisation is also possible once we are there, no?
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So we've had so many discussions during our trip with our guides. They were overstrained sometimes with the situations. There were a lot of troubble with the circuit houses - the touroperator said - yes, there is a reservation, the officer of the circuit house was not there and the other officials said: we don't know anything. Sometimes it was so stupid to wait for 2 or 3 hours for more informations. Twice within this time there were no room for us or our guides in the circuithouse and we spent a lot of time for looking for some sleeping facilities. And in anini for instance was no hotel or guesthouse for foreigners and after a lot of diskussions they have found a small room for us (normally not allowed for foreigners)-but not for our guides and driver. So we slept in our tent(beautifull night) and the two guides and the driver slept in one bed in the guesthouse. All this discussions and the waiting time is unpredictable and you need a creativ guide or driver
I will look for our trip information - and will be back tomorrow.
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Wonderful! Thanks so much, Simone. Yes, I am aware of the fact that in some of the places we are intending to visit there is no accommodation. In fact we are taking sleeping bags and may even need to sleep in the jeep if all else fails!

So, a tent would not be a bad idea, huh? That would weigh us down a bit. But if you think it would be worth it, we'll pack one. We have a small Igloo tent we use often here in Crete in the summer, just OK for two people. But that still leaves the problem of the driver and the guide!
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programm for AP

our agency was himalayan holidays and we were in AP in fall 2005. we knew that trekking was new for this part of India and all troubles we`ve had were the result form them. one main guide, and one assistant guide and one driver went along with us. and during our first trekking tour we`ve had a second main guide (responsible for the trekking trip) local guide and some horsemen; for the second trekking tour went porters with us. but the second tour was not on the itinerary. this was our idea and with the help of our assistant guide ist was possible to realize this idea.

the itinerary
day 1: meet and greet in Samdrup/Dzonghkar (we were in Bhutan) and drive to tezpur (240km)
day 2:drive to Bomdila (8000ft.)
day 3:after lunch drive to Thembang (7052 ft.) 45 km (25km letaled road; 20 km dirt road - overnight in Inspection Bungalow (IB) or tent
day 4: Trek to Semnak (7544 ft) - 8km - overnight in Camp (camp was our own tent and a tent for the 3 guides)
day 5: Trek to Lagam (8528ft) - 8km; camp
day 6: Trek to Tungri (10.100 ft) - 6km; camp
day 7:Trek to changla (13.000 ft) - 10km, camp

after that the itinerary said further more trekking days (the highest pass on this tour: 15.730 ft). but our main trekking guide and the horseman said: no way and a lot of snow in the mountain. but there were no snow on the tops of the mountains arround. the problem was, that our main guide for the whole tour was inexperienced in trekking tours, so we changed the program.
this was the second change of the programm, because we wait for our local guide in bomdila two days and on the third day in bomdila our trekking has begun. the low altitude tour was not so long and so we discussed with our assistant guide, what we can do. we went for 4 days to the bhutanese - indian border with some armee porters. nice trip!

day 16: Drive to Tawang (from Jang) - overnight in a hotel
day 17: sight seeing in Tawang (the morning has started at 4am - it was allowed for us to visit a special prayer and to sit near the monks)
day 18: drive to Zemithang (95km) - visit some water falls and the Gorshom Chorten; afternoon visit a Panchen tribe Village. overnight IB (we ere in the village but we didn`t see any traditional people. but we`ve had an interesting discussion about AP, India, Tibet and China with an official of the toruist lodge. we stayed the night in the IB after a long discussion.
day 19: Drive to Jang; overnight in IB (drive the whole day)
day 20: drive to Senge Village (Senge Dzong) and in the Afternoon drive to Dirang. overnight in a hotel. It was an interesting afternoon (without our guides) - we `ve seen the normal life on the streets.
day 21: visit Ta Dzong, traditional water mills and mor - go back to the hotel.
day 22: Drive to Bhalukpong (1454km) - Enroute visit Shertukpen tribal village at Rupa. Overnight in a hotel. we were in Rupa, it was a rainier day and no trive scienery.
day 23:drive to Itanagar (nice road (good quality) to the capital of AP) - 210km; enroute visit tea gardens and plantations. overnight in a hotel. we`ve seen the tea gardens through the car windows.
day 24:Itanagar sightseeining including Itafort, Mahayana Monastry - all was not so interesting; in the afternoon drive to Ziro (150km), overnight in a hotel
day 25: Full day Ziro valley sight seeing. we were in Hong and around (the biggest Apatani village) and got the chance to visit a holy ceremony - a really nice coincidence. and we`ve had a lot of fun with the apatai women, some building workers and mais-alcohol.
day 26: drive to Daporijo (160km) Vosist Nishi and Hill Miri villages on the way. overnight in Dumporijo IB we've seen the houses, but no more.
day 27: drive to Along (the plan said 137 km; but in reality: 178km) - visit Ado-Galo Tribes and villages on the way. Overnight in Anhcal Samity Bhavan. We`ve seen the villages and the life their but it was not easy to find a hotel in Along for the night.
day 28: Drive to Pasighat
we changed the day - because the guide said, that the car-ferry dosn`t work (less water) - we drived back to assam - overnight at the border in assam (new hotel)
day 29: drive to Roing - visit Adi-Padam and Digaru Mishmi tribe. overnight in Tourist Lodge. we`ve seen some small villages.
day 30: drive to Hunli (90km)- overnight in Circuit House (interesting road to Hunli)
day 31: drive to Anini (145km) - visit a Idu Mishmi village; overnight in Circuit House. The Idu Mishmi Villages are in the Dschungel and far away from the roads. so we met an old pair nearby the road - the walk in the village was to long for the day (more than 2 hours in the dschungel). there was no bed for us in the circuit house - we spent the night in our tent backside from a small tourist lodge, were our guides spent their night.
day 32: Drive back to Roing (235 km) - stupid drive over the whole day. Obernight in Tourist Lodge
day 33: Drive to Tezu (45km; in reality: 85- 88 km) evening visit Khamti Village and tribe. Overnight in a Hotel (only for foreigners)
we changed the plan, because we got an invitation for a Mela in a Khamti village. and stayed in this aerea for three days. really nice experience. overnight in a tourist lodge
day 36: drive to Deban (Namdapha Nationla Park) - the road was closed and our car was not powerfull enough for the dirt road.
day 37: Trek to Haldibari (5km) by crossing the Nao Dihing river by country boat. and return to Deban in the evening. no way for us, because less water and no car ferries for us.
day 38: Drive to Dibrugarh (185 km) - overnight in a hotel. only driving teh whole day.
day 39: organization for going back (by train) to dehli.
day 40: going back Gahati and dehli...

thats it and sorry for some language problems.
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Oh wow! Thank you so much, Simone. I am going to print this out and read it carefully. A couple of comments already after skimming through your report - (1) I am very relieved to know that, even when you have an "organized" tour, improvisation is not only possible, but even desirable; (2) We are definitely not trekkers, so parts of your report don't apply; (3) a lot of these places I shall have to look at the map carefully to situate - you really went "off-piste" didn't you? Good for you!

Thanks again for writing such a complete report.

If you were to go again, you said previously that you'd prefer to go to the far east part of AP. Why is that? Is it less spoilt?

Another couple of questions here while you are on line (and because we are leaving quite soon for our trip): (1) Was the contact with the local people facilitated by your guide? (2) Were you allowed to wander around unaccompanied (by the guide) in tribal areas? (3) Did you feel you were at any time intruding?

Thanks for you help.
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What kind of project with Bodo community ? It sounds very, very interesting maybe hard to manage but what a place !! , let me know,please !!

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During the time of the Bodo movement, there was a great deal of poaching and logging being carried out indside Manas . As a result it had lost a good deal of habitat and wildlife. Five years back some of the Bodo youth , started a conservation movement through their own motivation and dedication to save Manas. So I was working out with that NGO in Manas. I have just returned back home yesterday after 3 months, will write a more detailed article on my blog soon.

theyyamdancer the beauty about travelling in the North East is that it is so unpredictable, in terms of climatic and political situations. It 's best to go with an open mind and flexible itenary. Believe me anywhere in Arunachal is beautiful and well worth the rough roads. And I don't think that you should carry a tent , won't make that much sense. Most peolpe are warm and welcoming by nature so you always don't have to be with a guide as most tribal villages have already seen quite a few tourists. Don't worry too much and just enjoy your trip; go with the flow.

I would also agree with omamone that East Arunachal is far more prestine ane beautiful place. Lohit valley, Dibang and Changlang districts are simply amazing. I myself am hoping to explore Lohit in November this year.
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Piran I'll go with the flow, mentally and physically. Expect to hear all about it in a couple of months from now.
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