Namaste, Finally Time for North - East !!

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Hello Fellow IM'ers


So after Reading some threads on Northeast i have drawn the places i would like to visit. Questions are coming in at the end.




Arunachal > Tawang Valley - Mechuka - Ziro Valley - Tuting - Gelling & Singa - Along(Adi villages).

Manipur > Moreh - Ukhrul - Imphal

Meghalaya > Garo Hills - Shillong - Cherrapunjee - Umiam Lake - Nohkalikai Falls - Tura - Balpakram

Nagaland > Dzukou Valley. Mon

Mizoram > Tlabung - Phawngpui (Blue Mountain) - Saiha - Dungtlang - Farkawn & Vaphai - Reiek - Champhai


How does it look ? Any advice, additions(Theyamdancer - kshil - Koushik - sballer & Others) ?

I am looking at mountain/hill geography and remote area's to travel/trek to so Does Anyone has More recommendations for additions, Especially in Nagaland and Arunachal ?

The amount of time i have is 2 Months. Will start The exploration Early December till January End. I understand that An Indian National Needs and ILP to Visit Arunachal, Nagaland, Mizoram. But i want to know for how long is the permit valid is it 15 days.. can i get a longer ILP ? and does 1 ILP Permit covers all states and what all documents are required for it ?

I will be solo for this travel, any tips for such an exploration ? Could i face any difficulties which i can take care of before hand ? And is north east laced with budget accommodation? Also can somebody send me a link of good map available for this area.

Cheers, I'll Put more questions as they come.

Thank you
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#2 Nov 10th, 2011, 13:34
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Hi Lucid, great ideas you have, but slightly ambitious for 2 months. We spent almost one month seeing only one third of Arunachal Pradesh! So to cover 25 places in 60 days means a pretty tight schedule. Apart from the bad roads (which you are probably expecting), you need to factor buffer days for strikes and weather-induced delays. OK, that was the bad news. Now for the good news! You are about to discover some hidden gems.....

You need separate permits for each state, Lucid. Not only that, but when you are applying for a permit for Arunachal Pradesh, for instance, you need to write down ALL of the places on your itinerary. There are "tourist" routes, which roughly speaking follow the lines of the valleys, separated by mountain ranges and rivers. Trekking in Arunachal Pradesh is not organized. I do not know how feasible that would be. If you watch TV programmes like Bruce Parry's "Tribe", then you see the adventurer Bruce heading off into the jungles of Siang Province where there are no roads, emerging after a day's trek into a welcoming village. If you yourself, solo, can do such a thing....then hats off to you.....but I would not attempt it myself. Budget accommodation in the off-the-beaten path, even budget accommodation ON the beaten path is non-existent. That is part of the charm. There are government circuit houses in the most remote areas and home stays with local families, which you will not find advertised on the internet. In Mechuka we stayed with a Tibetan family. Kshil is (probably) retracing our footsteps there in December, so you may find his advice to be very helpful indeed. At the time we were in Mechuka, in early 2009, we (that is Mr TD and myself) were only the fourth and the fifth people to visit from abroad. There were before us, in order of their visit, two Russians and one Israeli traveller, which we saw in the log book. Since my report here at IndiaMike, it seems to have been written on the map, as it were. Yes, the most fascinating places are not even on the map. There is a good reason - because of the proximity to China and the fact that these places along the line of the Himalayas (the former MacMahon Line) are still disputed boundary areas. Some of them are inaccessible to foreigners. So you would stand a better chance than us. Sorry to bring you more bad news, but forewarned is forearmed, as they say: there are ongoing problems with road blocks in Manipur. Yesterday Imphal "celebrated" the one hundredth day of road blocks. This also has an influence on the travel in the neighbouring states, such as Nagaland. Please also wait for input from KS Bluechip, who is travelling to the Hornbill Festival in Nagaland on the first week of December. I myself am reading the newspapers, as I am planning for February 2012 in Nagaland as well as Eastern Arunachal Pradesh.

Have you read all the relevant threads here at IndiaMike?

As far as Meghalaya is concerned, it is a lot easier to negotiate than the other parts of the North East. Please read up all the trip reports here at IndiaMike, which will give you all the information you need. Then if you have further questions, go ahead. The best place in my opinion is Cherrapunjee. It has been described and photographed at length but it needs to be seen to be believed. The treks to the Living Root Bridges are absolutely stunning.

Well, enough blathering on for now.

P.S. Good map? Good joke!
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Hi Thanks theyamdancer.

Well 2 months could be extendable, And i may skip Manipur altogether. Lets see how it works out with the places. I have these in Mind so if 2 months is too little then maybe i'll skip few area's and manipur. But atleast a Mind Map of places will be established for future endeavors. Plus is have sikkim also to visit.


Yes i am going through with some threads on indiamike simultaneously as well. So much to digest. Well budget places in big cities is what i was referring to sorry for not clarifying first. I am quite aware of the homestay tab with remote places and personally that's what i would be happy with.
So if i mention. Tawang Valley - Mechuka - Ziro Valley - Tuting - Gelling & Singa - Along for arunachal i will still get a 15 day ILP right ? and where can i extend it if thats the case ? And How long will i take for me to see these area's if i do spend 2 days everywhere for example ? Just need to get a little understanding of the distance and time period.

By a good map i mean something which shows some of these area's. A map like this for instance
http://www.zeniahotels.com/images/MAPUttaranchal.jpg
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As far as maps go, Lucid, I have used one called "A Road Guide to North East India", part of the "Discover India Series", published by TTK Healthcare Limited, Chennai, sent to me by a friend from India. It is not brilliant, but it is quite helpful.

There is also a site appparently at

www.ttkmaps.com

But, like I said before, the places near to the mountains and to the borders are not on the map!

As far as your ILP goes, I can't really help you, since it is different (and easier) for you as an Indian National. Ask kshil.

I believe every 15 days extension is the norm, yes.

To answer the "2 days everywhere" query - I do not think it will work, frankly. Some places you will want to spend more time seeing. But you are young and fit so it might work. If you are very flexible and you go with the flow (and the blockages you are bound to encounter, both on your own part out of sheer fatigue and those encountered due to unforeseeable happenings on the road), then you can happily spend several months wandering (and wondering!) in these parts. It is a brilliant idea to just go and see what happens. Unfortunately the permits get in the way of that.
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Yes, The permit gets in the way. But i am sure i will spend more then 2 days in some places. I dont want to rush with things either but keeping in mind that more area's are on the cards.

So the places i have mentioned in the OP is subject to change. I'll wait for what Kshil has to say about the permits. And One more thing, Since i will be coming from SIKKIM. Guwahati will be an ideal base place(Road Connection & Permits) to push into Arunachal Pradesh's Tawang. And Itanagar for Ziro, Pasighat.. along. Mechuka. Is this correct ?
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The ideal base for Siang Province, starting at Pasighat, depends on your mode of transport. If you are planning on taking the boat UP the Brahmaputra, then Dibrugarh would be the kicking-off point.

For seeing the Apatani plateau, Ziro, Along, the nearest big city is indeed Itanagar. Depends if you are travelling west to east or vice versa.

For Tawang, the nearest big city in the plains is Tezpur. You can start with Tawang, for instance, before it gets too cold, at the start of your journey, by taking the train overnight from Kolkata to Tezpur, then pushing off and upwards towards Tawang, via Bhalukpong, Bomdila, and - if you have the time! - check out Zemithang (beyond Tawang) that we ourselves missed out on. Coming down, break the journey at Dirang for a change, then head for Guwahati, renew your permits, and up to Itanagar. You could then end with the trip DOWN the river to Dibrugarh and from there kick off eastwards for Manipur, Mizoram and Nagaland.

I am writing this fast. I hope you understand what I am talking about! Cheers.
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Please check out KS Bluechip's blog for his road trip around the North East.

Also Swapnil will be able to assist you for much of the trip - he has biked around a lot of the places (Tawang, Garo Hills, Manipur, Tripura, I forget where else) - check his blog as well.
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Thank you, Yes i am with you! I am getting a hang of the orientation now. Checking google maps and Will check on the Blogs as well. I am flying to Bagdogra from Delhi in order to start with Sikkim first. Then will Proceed to Guwahati From Gangtok. Then Tawang, Before it gets too cold there..Its anyways very cold now. Will decide about which area to touch first in Arunachal after i reach Guwahati. (Incase it has snowed on the Sela pass and the road is blocked for sometime) Which leads me to a qurey.. is the road to tawang open all year around ?

Yes i hope to see zemithang as well.
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If I remember well, Swapnil went by motorbike in severe snow and ice up to Tawang!
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Originally Posted by theyyamdancer View Post Hi Lucid, great ideas you have, but slightly ambitious for 2 months. We spent almost one month seeing only one third of Arunachal Pradesh! So to cover 25 places in 60 days means a pretty tight schedule. Apart from the bad roads (which you are probably expecting), you need to factor buffer days for strikes and weather-induced delays. OK, that was the bad news. Now for the good news! You are about to discover some hidden gems.....

You need separate permits for each state, Lucid. Not only that, but when you are applying for a permit for Arunachal Pradesh, for instance, you need to write down ALL of the places on your itinerary. There are "tourist" routes, which roughly speaking follow the lines of the valleys, separated by mountain ranges and rivers. Trekking in Arunachal Pradesh is not organized. I do not know how feasible that would be. If you watch TV programmes like Bruce Parry's "Tribe", then you see the adventurer Bruce heading off into the jungles of Siang Province where there are no roads, emerging after a day's trek into a welcoming village. If you yourself, solo, can do such a thing....then hats off to you.....but I would not attempt it myself. Budget accommodation in the off-the-beaten path, even budget accommodation ON the beaten path is non-existent. That is part of the charm. There are government circuit houses in the most remote areas and home stays with local families, which you will not find advertised on the internet. In Mechuka we stayed with a Tibetan family. Kshil is (probably) retracing our footsteps there in December, so you may find his advice to be very helpful indeed. At the time we were in Mechuka, in early 2009, we (that is Mr TD and myself) were only the fourth and the fifth people to visit from abroad. There were before us, in order of their visit, two Russians and one Israeli traveller, which we saw in the log book. Since my report here at IndiaMike, it seems to have been written on the map, as it were. Yes, the most fascinating places are not even on the map. There is a good reason - because of the proximity to China and the fact that these places along the line of the Himalayas (the former MacMahon Line) are still disputed boundary areas. Some of them are inaccessible to foreigners. So you would stand a better chance than us. Sorry to bring you more bad news, but forewarned is forearmed, as they say: there are ongoing problems with road blocks in Manipur. Yesterday Imphal "celebrated" the one hundredth day of road blocks. This also has an influence on the travel in the neighbouring states, such as Nagaland. Please also wait for input from KS Bluechip, who is travelling to the Hornbill Festival in Nagaland on the first week of December. I myself am reading the newspapers, as I am planning for February 2012 in Nagaland as well as Eastern Arunachal Pradesh.

Have you read all the relevant threads here at IndiaMike?

As far as Meghalaya is concerned, it is a lot easier to negotiate than the other parts of the North East. Please read up all the trip reports here at IndiaMike, which will give you all the information you need. Then if you have further questions, go ahead. The best place in my opinion is Cherrapunjee. It has been described and photographed at length but it needs to be seen to be believed. The treks to the Living Root Bridges are absolutely stunning.

Well, enough blathering on for now.

P.S. Good map? Good joke!
Hi,
Could you please provide contact details of homestay or circuit house No at mechuka.
thanks,
Vinod

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