Entry Permits into North East Bloc States

#31 Feb 17th, 2011, 03:55
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Is the following info already known? Official GOI press release from October:
http://pib.nic.in/newsite/erelease.aspx?relid=66380


"The review of restrictions pertaining to Restricted Area Permit (RAP)/Protected Area Permit (PAP) for tourists is a continuous process and is undertaken by Ministry of Home Affairs on receipt of proposal from the concerned States and in consultation with security agencies. Ministry of Home Affairs has conveyed relaxation of Protected Area Regime in the following circuits of Arunachal Pradesh & Sikkim:


Arunachal Pradesh:

(i) Along – Mechukha.
(ii) Existing Pasighat – Jenging – Yiungkiong to be extended upto Tuting.
(iii) Daporijo – Nacho Circuit via Taliha and Sayum.
(iv) Ziro – Palin – Nyapin – Sangram – Kaloriang.
(v) Doimukh – Sagalee – Pakke Kasang – Seppa.


Powers were delegated to the Government of Arunachal Pradesh for issue of Protected Area Permit (PAP) in respect of the following:

(i) To visiting foreign tourists in a group of two or more persons (as against the existing requirement of group strength of four or more persons) for a maximum period of 30 days.

(ii) To a group of two foreign tourists even if they are not married couples and to foreigners married to Indian nationals belonging to the State of Arunachal Pradesh for visiting the State on tourist visas.


Sikkim:

(i) To issue PAP/RAP to foreign tourists in a group of two or above with a recognized travel agent, who would act as an escort. However, existing restrictions on visit of foreigners to Rumtek Monastry and restrictions on movement of Tibetan Refugees need to be enforced.

(ii) To issue PAP/RAP to visiting foreign tourists (subject to (i) above) initially for a period of 30 days extendable to another spell of 30 days.

The powers to issue PAP/RAP to foreign tourists are also delegated to Tourism Information Officer posted at Tourist Information Centre (TIC) at Darjeeling (West Bengal) and Melli (Sikkim)."


Who wants to decipher what "relaxation" means with respect to Ar. P? My understanding is the a.m circuits have been newly opened to foreigners with permit in hand. But e.g. td has been to Mechukha in the past, so I don't see how this new notification is an improvement.
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Originally Posted by Dilliwala View Post Who wants to decipher what "relaxation" means with respect to Ar. P? My understanding is the a.m circuits have been newly opened to foreigners with permit in hand. But e.g. td has been to Mechukha in the past, so I don't see how this new notification is an improvement.
Well, I read a lot on this in different sites and spoken to the Resident Commissioner's office as well and my understanding in this regard is

Earlier only circuits those were opened for foreigners (with permit) are

a. Bomdila-Tawang
b. Itanagar-Ziro-Pasighat
c. Roing-Tezu-Parsuram Kund
d. Miao-Namdapha

Since middle of 2008, apart from opening 5 new circuits for foreigners (with PAP/RAP) as mentioned here they also relaxed the requirement of travelling in a group of minimum 4 to minimum 2 and number of days from 7or 15 to 30 days.

Now td definitely visited these place after the relaxation took place in Mid 2008 but why this came to GOI Official press release in Oct-2010 is difficult to say but most easy to guess

Indian Express Report on 16th May 2008

Outlook June-08 Report
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If you look at some of the official sites for North-East, the rules are still not updated. In fact, when we were planning for Mechuka, two and a half years ago, the rules were saying "four people, ten days", instead of "two people, thirty days". The cogs of bureaucracy turn ever so s l o w l y !
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Originally Posted by kshil View Post Since middle of 2008, apart from opening 5 new circuits for foreigners (with PAP/RAP) as mentioned here they also relaxed the requirement of travelling in a group of minimum 4 to minimum 2 and number of days from 7or 15 to 30 days.

Now td definitely visited these place after the relaxation took place in Mid 2008 but why this came to GOI Official press release in Oct-2010 is difficult to say but most easy to guess

Indian Express Report on 16th May 2008

Outlook June-08 Report
PHEW! I cannot describe how RELIEVED I am to find this link today:
http://pib.nic.in/newsite/erelease.aspx?relid=42068

Because it shows the GOI not as badly incompetent as perceived earlier - press release of 29 Aug 2008 only a few months late instead of a few years, as the date in my previous link suggested. Now this ties in with the info in your two links and td's trip.

In fact this is the correct notification, as seen in the title - 'New Additions to Arunachal Pradesh’s existing tourist circuits'.
The one from 2010 is titled 'Tourism in North-Eastern Region' - I'm guessing it was a slow news day for the Tourism Ministry so they decided to dive into the archives and cobble something together, seeing that there's info about Sikkim and statistics as well.
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That's a relief then!

You know, Dilliwala, when we reached Mechuka, we were only the third and fourth foreigners to have visited there since the nineteen sixties.
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Foreigners could go there in the 60s?
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Yes! When it was NEFA.
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Ah, clear as.............mud?
I think I better go to sleep.
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does any body know where to get easiest Arunachal Pradesh permit without taking guide/package tour. Almost all travel agent (in Guhawati and Itanagar ) i contacted dont want to help issuing permit if i dont book tour with them.

They said , It is now compulsory for foreign tourist to have guided tour during visit to AP

Thanks
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Hi Laurent,

Yes, this old chestnut is trotted out time and again. Theoretically tourists can travel independently after having obtained the permit. In practice, travel agents are very unwilling to issue just the permit. It is not true that it is imperative or mandatory to take a guide. Don't believe them!

Try to contact Basant Giri at Ren Tours and Travels. I can provide his number if you are unable to find him through google.
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I remember on the checkpoint on the way to Tawang they asked me where is my guide and other person (I had them mentioned on my permit) - I told they are flying with helicopter. It was fine for them.
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Isn't it possible to apply at the Indian Embassy straightaway along with visa application, like it is for other such areas?
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