Help needed for a trip to Orissa.... quite urgent!

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Hi guys,
I really need your help.

I will fly to India next Friday. I was supposed to go to Ladakh, but due to the terrible situation over there, I have decided to change my plans.
I am Italian and I have been to India several times, but I have never been to Kolkata and Orissa.

I know that this is not the best period to go. But.... shall I go there anyway? Or is the weather that bad? Do you have other suggestions about where to go in India with a decent weather in this period?

Please advice as soon as you can.
Thanks.
#2 Aug 10th, 2010, 15:05
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south india is a good option,
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I have already been to the South!
So.... do you mean that it is better to avoid Orissa?
Thanks.
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Have a look at this thread about the monsoon in tribal Orissa for a few possible ideas.
http://www.indiamike.com/india/off-t...rissa-t111034/
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Vince

Please leave the tribals alone.

In a number of threads you have been advocating visiting them. I don't know why? Are they some kind of human species that need the attention of 'white' folks?

Go visit the tourist places that India has to offer.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by Nattusbs View Post Vince

Please leave the tribals alone.

In a number of threads you have been advocating visiting them. I don't know why? Are they some kind of human species that need the attention of 'white' folks?

Go visit the tourist places that India has to offer.

Cheers

Nattusbs
This is very distasteful to read, nattu, I must say. And please, make one thing count. This 'black and white' context is enjoyable only in photographs, pictures and cinemas. Please try not to use it to distinguish human beings.

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Please leave the tribals alone.

In a number of threads you have been advocating visiting them. I don't know why? Are they some kind of human species that need the attention of 'white' folks? Nattusbs
That's the problem, the tribals are being left alone while their culture is being forgotten and traditional way of life and property has and still is been taken from them.

Before making comments like you have you really should visit this area and meet some of the adivasi to get a true perspective of what it's like here, and the conditions they are tolerating through inaction and neglect, then make your judgement. It is obvious that some intervention is needed as some 'Indian' folk are using the tribal people as some Indian folk are using the Commonwealth Games, but for a far longer period a greater amount of money.

Tourism brings international attention to these people who are being thrust into the present day without any of the benefits that go with it. They have been neglected, ignored, abused, and are continually being ripped off by the 'Indian' folk who do not give a flying f... about them, only the food, medicines, money and materials they can divert from them.
Their husbands, brothers and sons have to migrate all over India to get work while the NREGS can't get off the ground here because the money gets held up at every desk on its way to where it should go. Very little happens here because of total govt inaction and incompetence.

I have lived and worked among the tribals for nearly 5 years and yes they do need the attention of someone to help them as they are very much in fear of the 'Indian' folk who have been looking after their interests till now.

They are losing their traditions, livelihood, culture and health due to being left alone at the hands of the Indian /Orissa govt. A losing battle that is being fought by a handful of dedicated people, mostly Indian, from all walks of life who battle silently against a lazy and corrupt govt at all levels to try to bring the adivasi and their plight to the forefront.

It is through these people and one or two ‘foreign' folk like myself that some of their traditional culture is being retained and revived, and the main incentives these days for retaining traditional culture is tourism, is it not?
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I agree with vinceorian. I would not like to go too deep in to this. But I have been to Tribal areas of Bastar during Dushera 09 & the tribals are more than happy to welcome tourists. Just one incident I would like to share here.

Me & wife were taking photographs during the festival when we were approached by two tribals separately who had come to Jagdalpur for Dusherra festival. They asked us if we can send them a copy of their photo. We noted down their addresses & after reaching Mumbai send two photos of theirs to each of them by post. I had enclosed a post card so that after receiving they can send it back to me as an acknowledgement for my satisfaction. I not only recd. a post card back from one of them but he also called me up to say thank you. I did not receive the other post card back but nor I have recd. the cover back which could mean it has reached the right place but only the tribal must have forgotten to send the post card or he must not be aware that he has to send the post card back.

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I'd say go. We really enjoyed our time in Kolkata and Orissa. Very different from other regions in India with lots to see and do. Orissans are lovely people. And and the vegetarian food in Bengal and Orissa is terrific! Expect only basic accomodation outside the big cities. Although there were times when we felt a bit intrusive, I don't think a visit to the tribal areas is a problem if you are truly interested and respectful. It is generally recommended that you hire a guide for this so as to lessen impact on the native people (and guides are familiar with local political situations).
With the recent heavy rains in other areas I would check on the weather situation there before going. We saw some knee deep water in the streets of Kolkata after only a brief morning shower!
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U can definitely go to Orissa. We have just come from the tour in August. Heavy Rains r not there. U can take the risk. It will b fun to tour in this season, as there is no heat no cold. perfect weather for tour.


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Thanks to all.

Actually my question was about the right season to go, I mean if August is a good period to visit Orissa.

As Mono2056 wrote, I understand that it's doable and the weather is quite nice.

For me Orissa does not mean only tribal areas but also historic temples as Kornak and Bhubaneswar, or natural landscape as Chilika lake, or beaches as Puri.

I think that everyone has his own opinion about the opportunity to visit tribal regions, and it depends on respect, education and politness of each of us.
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Suggested season for Orisaa region is btn Cct-March. Worst time (summers) is over and Monsoon should not be much of a problem. From Orisaa tourism site I see temp hovering round 32-25 which seems ok to me.

I am also planning Konark trip via MP (Khujaraho). I am looking for partners for same. In case you like to join ping me satpalremovethisparmaratgmaild otcom

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#13 Aug 12th, 2010, 06:47
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The weather in the tribal elevated tribal area where I am has been mild this year monsoon wise although down Jeypore/Kotpad/Chattisgarhh side they have had a hard time of it the last few days.
The days have been partially clear with some sun although normally we are in the clouds mostly during July and August but it helps the crops grow.
Temperature range is low 20's night,and mid to high 20's during the days and the days will stay around these temps while the nights slowly getting cooler as the year progresses.

As for the season here I would say all year with the best time from late June with the pre monsoon afternoon storms which are spectacular through to April/May when the temps are in the mid 30's but with very low humidity.
Koraput is the same although Jeypore and Rayagada do not have the benefit of the cooler higher altitude and tend to cook like the rest of India.
Much of the Southern tribal district is around 1,000 metres altiude therefore the air is cooler and much cleaner than on the plains of India although the direct sun does have a bite most of the year.
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ok then.

@ VINCEORIAN
Since you leave there, could you suggest me a good itinerary in Orissa, starting from Bhubaneswar (inclusive of the best temples, tribal area and what is worth to be seen)? We are thinking of staying over there for around 5 days.
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@ satpalparmar

if you want you can send me a PM and write me your itinerary and timeschedule, and may be we can meet up.

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