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#31 Mar 7th, 2011, 06:46
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I would rather just pay a flat fee too. I agree, but in the US tipping IS a way of life. I was just wondering how it worked. I need to know how it works in London too.
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I would rather just pay a flat fee too. I agree, but in the US tipping IS a way of life. I was just wondering how it worked. I need to know how it works in London too.
I know it is that way in the US and it annoys me to no end. Last time I was staying in NY there was an item on the news about a guy who was actually charged with 'theft of services' because he had refused to tip in the restaurant where he had dinner although nothing was wrong with the food nor the service. Probably that was some fluke, else it wouldn't have made the news but still, if it's mandatory I think it's a lot easier to just list it with the price or include it on the bill.

For India, comparisons with the standard of living and earning in the west as a moral imperative to tip according to western standards are imho misguided and distort the 'tipping economy' to the detriment of both locals and other tourists but ok, live and let live, because it's not my thing you shouldn't be prohibited from doing so.
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When I travel, I find it so irritating that every guy who does anything then hangs around for their tip. Singapore is so refreshing, because nobody expects, and nobody hangs around: it is a non-tipping culture.
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i was horrified when i met young people in america, woring for $2 an hour and the rest of their wage was supplied by tips. it is a disgusting way for people to have to work, when they have a regular rent and regular food bills to pay. no wonder all those multinational restaurant and coffeehouse companies, from the states are so wealthy.
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Yep. There's a movement in Singapore to bring tipping into the culture. Guess who's backing it? The employers.
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post Yep. There's a movement in Singapore to bring tipping into the culture. Guess who's backing it? The employers.
how do you know this snippet of info, nick
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Newspaper reading, last time I was there! That was Novemeber.
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Why yes! Singapore is a first world economy that has a higher national individual income than New Zealand! No wonder that along the shopper strip of Orchard Road tips aren't sought. Any traveller who can access IndiaMile can access all sorts of useful relative-afluence information in order to lessen irritation. We Australians who usually - over the last 40 years or so - pilgrimage to India via either Singapore or Kuala Lumpur experience, and expect, gigantic differences in incomes, tipping regimens, and the ability to drink water straight out of the tap. Water straight out of the tap is so refreshing in Singapore too. Now why is there no IndiaMile thread called "taps in the street you can just rock up and drink from in Chennai/ Mumbai/ Kolkata/ everywhere else"?
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aaah...

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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post Newspaper reading, last time I was there! That was Novemeber.
as i suspected, newspaper. do you have to go to singapore to go to england, if you don't mind me asking? is that the cheapest way? just in case i want to go over to the land of sludge and mist
i enjoyed my 6 days in singapore on the way to india, last trip.
funny, i picked out a nice looking budget hotel, on the internet, got to singas about 2 am. when i went and told the transport desk where i was heading the lady goes, 'oh no, not a good place.' the taxi driver gives me a funny look and when we get there it is the red light area and the hotel i was gonna stay at, had the hugest hourly rate sign hanging from the front and about 30 whores standing along the pavement outside
anyway, i had noticed this cute little old chinese place and booked in there. it also had an hourly rate (oh well...) but reminded me of singapore in the 60's
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Why yes! Singapore is a first world economy
That has nothing to do with it at all. We have already talked about first-world economies where staff such as waiters get paid so little that they require tips to live, and their employers expect that the customers will pay them, so they don't need to.

Taps... Whoa! Sinking here in irrelevant arguments!

If people have a moral imperative to put money in the pockets of others at home, then I applaud them. If they only feel the need to do so in India, then, fine, it's their money, but I don't understand their logic.

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as i suspected, newspaper. do you have to go to singapore to go to england, if you don't mind me asking? is that the cheapest way?
Indeed. Newspaper!

No, I go to Singapore only to visit Singapore and because we have family there. Going again soon, in fact! But this time will be staying with family, not expensive hotels, so no free newspaper.

Whilst it doesn't necessarily mean anything in airline logic, Singapore would be the wrong direction, and would add greatly to the length and cost of the flight to UK, which I really like to do in just one leg. Coincidentally, I was wondering, only last week, if there was any advantage to combining the two in one round trip, but I couldn't see any.

On tipping... by all means reward your driver for making your tour successful and memorable, but do remember that he is not actually among the poorest of the poor. If you want to help the needy, seek out the people who clean your hotel room, and tip them.
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"Why yes! Singapore is a first world economy that has a higher national individual income than New Zealand!"

Yeah - I'm sure it has. Possibly higher than many other countries.
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i picked out a nice looking budget hotel, on the internet, got to singas about 2 am. when i went and told the transport desk where i was heading the lady goes, 'oh no, not a good place.' the taxi driver gives me a funny look and when we get there it is the red light area and the hotel i was gonna stay at, had the hugest hourly rate sign hanging from the front and about 30 whores standing along the pavement outside
Usually that's not a problem in Singapore, couple of years ago my wife had booked a budget hotel (not what she usually does and it also turned out to be smack in the middle of the red light district and rented out rooms by the hour. But the 'regular' rooms are kept on separate floors so the regular customers don't mix with the johns and their temporary friends. We didn't have any problem at all, except I could have had 20 'special massage sir?' per day had I wanted to But it's all very non-obtrusive and no one gets harassed, everything extremely organized. One year later we went back but this time my wife booked the Ritz-Carlton which was, all thing considered, not such a good deal as the red light district.

My worst hotel night ever was in 2001 in Tegucigalpa, Honduras. I had a bus connection to make in a bad part of town so took a room in a nearby motel. The guy behind the counter asked me for how many hours I wanted the room and didn't blink when I said 'for the night, of course'. The rooms were small cubicles with a shower stall and wooden partitions that didn't quite reach the ceiling

Didn't sleep for a minute that night but due to the risky neighborhood moving to another place was not an option.
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post Whilst it doesn't necessarily mean anything in airline logic, Singapore would be the wrong direction, and would add greatly to the length and cost of the flight to UK, which I really like to do in just one leg. Coincidentally, I was wondering, only last week, if there was any advantage to combining the two in one round trip, but I couldn't see any.
Especially if you can get cheap Air Asia flights between Chennai and Singapore!
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I was a cocktail waitress for 2 1/2 years (worked in restaurants through high school and college) here in AZ. Out here your hourly wage is $3.00 an hour. You are working only for tips. its frustrating.
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The worst of all worlds is where a "service charge" is added to the bill. In most cases, that is not going to reach the staff, do what to do? Most of us would probably leave some cash, which we know that, at least the person who serves us will handle directly.

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Originally Posted by scottyheather View Post Especially if you can get cheap Air Asia flights between Chennai and Singapore!
Tiger. Mind you, booking exit seats and lots of luggage brings it almost equal to non-'budget' airlines.

Quite how we strayed into red-light districts I don't know! But I am sure we can combine it with the general subject of tipping!
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