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#16 Jun 4th, 2017, 01:09
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Originally Posted by hfot2 View Post Unless you are intimately acquainted with OP's finances, this seems to me to be a presumptuous judgment. An unexpected expense of GBP 53 strikes me as cause for shock, never mind whether Customs is in the right or not. But then, I've never been a member of the Throw-Money-at-India-Just-Because-You-Can brigade; and I am a notoriously stingy bastard, so whadda I know?
Taking into account the cost of an airplane ticket from the UK and back, local transport....the cost of a discretionary trip which the OP's finances could cope with, in other words....those 53 GBP are trivial. And were avoidable. But deciding to ship stuff out for reasons of comfort, declaring it as 'gift' and assuming the risk of being taxed, then moaning and complaining about customs who do their job...that's a bit too rich for my tastes.

I don't need to know nor do I care about the op's finances:whether he/she lives in squalor or is rich as croesus and blows that amount on his/her daily manicure is immaterial in that context. But hey, thoughts are free.
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Originally Posted by hfot2 View Post Unless you are intimately acquainted with OP's finances, this seems to me to be a presumptuous judgment. An unexpected expense of GBP 53 strikes me as cause for shock, never mind whether Customs is in the right or not. But then, I've never been a member of the Throw-Money-at-India-Just-Because-You-Can brigade; and I am a notoriously stingy bastard, so whadda I know?
hfot2 got the point, I was just shocked for an unexpected expense of GBP 53. I admit I didn't do enough research, I thought we wouldn't get charged if the goods weren't for commercial purposes!! The quilts are merely for ourselves and family, we had removed the packagings as well!!!

I'm not a member of "Throw-Money-at-India-Just-Because-You-Can brigade" 53 doesn't sound a lot but I'm going to do a monthly direct debit for supporting an Indian child for education, 53 can support a child for 2 months! If I had done more research in advance, I rather used the money wisely and helped someone in need!!!

I have accepted the truth now, I already mentioned that I "won't" claim for a refund!

dillichaat just goes on and on and won't leave me alone, I doubt that you're working for UK customs? Lol... if you are not, could I suggest you to get a life?
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Originally Posted by dillichaat View Post ...But hey, thoughts are free.
And 53 quid is 53 quid.
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Originally Posted by hfot2 View Post And 53 quid is 53 quid.
Money is money
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Originally Posted by Mimimiha View Post I have accepted the truth now, I already mentioned that I "won't" claim for a refund!

dillichaat just goes on and on and won't leave me alone, I doubt that you're working for UK customs? Lol... if you are not, could I suggest you to get a life?
She go the point. But hey, anyone else want to have a last go at her, just for fun?

We could move on.
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53 can support a child for 2 months!
Please check education/etc costs with an independent person before you commit to any organisation. Not saying they are going to be bad, although many are... but their administrators and staff have to eat too. Etc.
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post She go the point. But hey, anyone else want to have a last go at her, just for fun?

We could move on.

Please check education/etc costs with an independent person before you commit to any organisation. Not saying they are going to be bad, although many are... but their administrators and staff have to eat too. Etc.
Thanks to the advice
How is world vision website? A friend of mine used to support 2 children from world vision website, she spent around rs.5000 a month for 2. (The exchange rate was 1:100, sterling : rupees)

Now she only supports one child, one child has disappeared, his father withdrew him from world vision....

You got the point, I understand whichever organisation and the staffs need to make a living, but I need to know how many percent of the money is actually used on the child! And if thr parents will take the money?

And a friend told me that the monthly direct debit of rs.2000 is enough for the tuition fee of the private school?
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There are two World Vision organisations. Both are Christian missionaries foundations. Both are in US. One was subject of a Tehelka story.
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Originally Posted by Mimimiha View Post How is world vision website?
A plague.

World vision is a evangelical organisation and spreads Christianity. Any organisation based on spreading religion should be kept as far as possible, and donations to such are a crime in my view, whatever good work they may claim to do.

If you wish to support a child, there are many organisation, like cry, that do the job without religious undertones.
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Saw a good Hindu organization in Rishikish. But, even a champion offender like me is impressed by the jump in topic, Kudos..
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Originally Posted by edwardseco View Post But, even a champion offender like me is impressed by the jump in topic, Kudos..
I am a late arrival, but will take this opportunity to thank you on behalf of all those who contributed, such praise is always humbling and keeps the spirits up to derail another thread.
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I put World Vision in what I call, much to my wife's discomfort, the SVBB- 'shaky voiced buggers brigade'. The SVBB consists solely of people in religious organisations that use sonorous shaky voices brimming with presumptive holiness and facile chicanery to try to make a fool out of people. They should just quit and die for my sins or be reborn as toads or something.

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Originally Posted by Mimimiha View Post dillichaat just goes on and on and won't leave me alone, I doubt that you're working for UK customs? Lol... if you are not, could I suggest you to get a life?
Dillichaat has a short fuse for what he considers whining without substance. Which is why he's a technocrat doing a job where hurting people's delicate sensitivities doesn't matter in the least.

Brilliant idea about the 53 GBP direct debit to support a child in India. Did you check how much your bank is going to charge you on such transfer? That'll be a couple chapattis less I guess.

Back -somewhat on topic- if you do it, you should research the organisation and check what proportion of any donation actually goes to those kids. Lots of chaff, preciously little corn.
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I will say that one of their programs in Ahmednagar was the only ag. development program that from a micro perspective made sense, eg. building wells. Many such put in street (alley way?) signage or other junk such as "boosting a sense of community". Don't ask about the govt. programs lead by a Cambridge educated Mumbaite super sahib. However, in a macro perspective putting in more wells in a country with declining water levels makes no sense. It just drains other existing wells..
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What you really want is to contribute your money so that it goes directly to school fees, with perhaps some spending on school uniform, books, and simple vital expenses that keep the child alive and at school. And you get receipt copies.

Cut out the middle man. The children that I have helped, I have done so directly.

But you can't do that, because you don't know any such children, don't know their parent(s) and the circumstances in which they live, and don't know the costs of either living or learning.

What you need is a trusted person who does.

Forum rules don't permit me to go further on this here .

Tangential to the off topic... How much do you think it costs to go to medical school here?

I know a parent of a youngster who has just qualified. He happened to mention... 600,000 rupees fees per year. This is reputable college, but not a fancy private one.

That shocked me!

On another tangent already mentioned. Yes, if you can identify them, avoid the evangelists like poison. But life is not so simple, and many good schools and colleges here are run by Christians. And they do cater for all religions. And people do leave with the same religion that they arrived with.
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It's difficult to be certain that the cash is spent well, even when dealing directly with the parents. I've found an orphanage/school run by nuns in Mumbai and visited a couple of times, I prefer giving money to them. Nothing's ever 100% certain but I feel that's as close as I can get. However, I pay a lump sum every year, easier on the transaction fees.

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