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Spiffy Nov 29th, 2017 01:56

US Citizens Marrying In India
 
We are 2 US citizens traveling to India to hold our marriage ceremony there. Is it possible to get a marriage license when getting married in India even though we are not citizens?

Nick-H Nov 29th, 2017 03:00

What kind of wedding? Religious? What religion? Are you of Indian origin?

Suggest anyway... Have a civil wedding in America. Get all the American paperwork. Do whatever pleases you, religious, ceremonial, etc; affirmation, celebration, etc. in India.

I recommend getting legally married in your own country or the one, if emigrating, you are going to live in.

Spiffy Nov 29th, 2017 03:18

It'll be a Sikh wedding and I am of Indian origin but my fiance is not.

We can do the paperwork here but it would have to be after which is why we were hoping we could have it done legally in India so that the date is correct.

nycank Nov 29th, 2017 07:46

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Originally Posted by Spiffy (Post 2067116)
It'll be a Sikh wedding and I am of Indian origin but my fiance is not.

We can do the paperwork here but it would have to be after which is why we were hoping we could have it done legally in India so that the date is correct.

I do not understand.

Go to city hall, get married legally; fly to India, have Anand Karaj. Getting an Anand Karaj registered post hoc is a PITA. On the other hand, having an anand karaj for reaffirmation of vows smoothens things in the future back home in the US.

Spiffy Nov 29th, 2017 21:42

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Originally Posted by nycank (Post 2067144)
I do not understand.

Go to city hall, get married legally; fly to India, have Anand Karaj. Getting an Anand Karaj registered post hoc is a PITA. On the other hand, having an anand karaj for reaffirmation of vows smoothens things in the future back home in the US.

Unfortunately we cannot do it before leaving because we both cannot be present due to being in different states before flying to India.

If we do the paperwork when we get back then the date for the marriage would be incorrect in the records since they would use the date that we went to city hall. I was trying to avoid having the incorrect date on all of the paperwork but if it's a pain to get it done in India then I may not have a choice

nycank Nov 30th, 2017 13:48

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Originally Posted by Spiffy (Post 2067297)
Unfortunately we cannot do it before leaving because we both cannot be present due to being in different states before flying to India.

If we do the paperwork when we get back then the date for the marriage would be incorrect in the records since they would use the date that we went to city hall. I was trying to avoid having the incorrect date on all of the paperwork but if it's a pain to get it done in India then I may not have a choice

I'm sorry, I'm missing the plot. What incorrect paperwork ? Each city,town and state requirements differ. Also Anand Karaj registration post hoc might not be easily registered.

What state in US, and what state in India were you planning? Marriage date, and registration dates will differ if post hoc.

nycank Nov 30th, 2017 13:54

On the other hand, there are some places in pind who understand foreign requirements, but those have to be preverified by your local relatives. Abuse of Anand Karaj had in some districts been such that there carte Blanche doubt and distrust by local authorities. Again your local relatives are the point persons.

NonIndianResident Nov 30th, 2017 19:55

In most places that I've heard of in India, you have to have one or both parties in the location in India where you are going to have the wedding ceremony, eg 30 days ahead in order to register intent. You could get somebody in your target location to go to the district court and find out what the requirements are.

If you are going to use your marriage certificate in the US for any kind of purposes in the future, it's probably easier (more practical) to have an American marriage certificate.

Spiffy Nov 30th, 2017 21:42

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Originally Posted by nycank (Post 2067425)
I'm sorry, I'm missing the plot. What incorrect paperwork ? Each city,town and state requirements differ. Also Anand Karaj registration post hoc might not be easily registered.

What state in US, and what state in India were you planning? Marriage date, and registration dates will differ if post hoc.

Not incorrect paperwork but the wrong wedding date. According to the clerk and recorder the date of the marriage would be the date the paperwork is signed in Colorado which would be well after the Anand Karaj since we will not be returning right away. I was trying to avoid that and hoping we could have the marriage registered as the same date.

Colorado in the US and Punjab in India.

We may just have to do the paperwork here when we get back if that's the case. I do not know much about getting it registered in India

Nick-H Nov 30th, 2017 21:46

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the wrong wedding date
In what sense? administrative or personal?

Spiffy Nov 30th, 2017 22:06

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Originally Posted by Nick-H (Post 2067503)
In what sense? administrative or personal?

administrative - as in all of the legal paperwork would show a different date than the actual wedding date

nycank Nov 30th, 2017 23:23

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Originally Posted by Spiffy (Post 2067508)
administrative - as in all of the legal paperwork would show a different date than the actual wedding date

Why is this date important ?

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Originally Posted by Spiffy (Post 2067502)
Not incorrect paperwork but the wrong wedding date. According to the clerk and recorder the date of the marriage would be the date the paperwork is signed in Colorado which would be well after the Anand Karaj since we will not be returning right away. I was trying to avoid that and hoping we could have the marriage registered as the same date.

Colorado in the US and Punjab in India.


You can get a marriage license without a wait period in CO. You can immediately get married. Either in the premise of the county clerk or a marriage bureau. Make sure you follow the guidelines of the county and state. Or any religious ceremony in CO, and the non-denominational church, or a gurudwara in Denver - The priests know how to fill a marriage certificate. marriage license ≠ marriage certificate.

CO is one of the few states that allows proxy marriage - I am sure you do not want that :D

Having passed the hurdle, you can go to India and do an Anand Karaj, and be done with.

Then there is always the Las Vegas marriage ! It is perfectly legal. Remember, bazillion people get married in County Clerk's office, or City Hall, and then do do their destination wedding ceremony sans the legal hassle.

Spiffy Dec 1st, 2017 00:03

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Originally Posted by nycank (Post 2067519)
Why is this date important ?




You can get a marriage license without a wait period in CO. You can immediately get married. Either in the premise of the county clerk or a marriage bureau. Make sure you follow the guidelines of the county and state. Or any religious ceremony in CO, and the non-denominational church, or a gurudwara in Denver - The priests know how to fill a marriage certificate. marriage license ≠ marriage certificate.

CO is one of the few states that allows proxy marriage - I am sure you do not want that :D

Having passed the hurdle, you can go to India and do an Anand Karaj, and be done with.

Then there is always the Las Vegas marriage ! It is perfectly legal. Remember, bazillion people get married in County Clerk's office, or City Hall, and then do do their destination wedding ceremony sans the legal hassle.

The date is important to me since the actual marriage is when the Anand Karaj is so I didn't want paperwork saying something different. It's more a matter of preference more than anything.

The county in which I live in Colorado allows individuals to solemnize their own marriage so nothing would really be necessary but we already have everything booked in India. It's not really a matter of if it can be done or not I was just trying to see if there was a way to keep the dates correct. We're unable to do the paperwork until we return because my fiance is out of the state until we head to India.

aarosh Dec 1st, 2017 00:05

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Originally Posted by nycank (Post 2067519)
CO is one of the few states that allows proxy marriage - I am sure you do not want that :D

Colorado, California, Texas and Montana.

One of the couple needs to be present for the wedding the other could be proxy. Colorado Marriage Licenses.

Only in Montana even if the couples are not present two proxies can appear in place of them. Montana Marriage License.

nycank Dec 1st, 2017 00:21

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Originally Posted by aarosh (Post 2067534)
Colorado, California, Texas and Montana.

Only in Montana even if the couples are not present two proxies can appear in place of them.

I hereby grant you super-gurudom ! :D

There was a funny, ironic, tragicomic outcome of proxy rule, in one of the South American country, the story as told by my friend, then posted by South Block in that country; the proxy stole the bride :D She did not return to avail of an X visa :D


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