U.K. Visa rejected

#1 Nov 30th, 2015, 23:56
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I am from India , I met a girl online ,two and half year back from today .she lives in uk ,we are in love with each other and rest is history ,so what happens is I try getting into uk through a student visa but my visa got rejected due to some weird reason of financial status of my parents.. I was wondering if someone could tell me how can I get a uk visa after one rejection and is there any other way my girlfriend can sponsor me a visa.
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Skyliner, you want to some to UK to be with your girlfriend... to get married? You applied for a visa as a student.

Did the relationship get mentioned in the visa application?

The questions are...

Did you get accepted to do a recognised course at an approved institution? There are many that are not.

Can you or your parents afford to pay for the course, and for the cost of housing and living in UK for the duration of the course. Without working.

Have you given the UK authorities any reason to suspect that you would not return to India after finishing the course (eg, actually trying to get there to marry someone rather than actually being a student)?

Alarm bells ringing under any of those headings are likely to get you a refusal. Under the cost-of-living heading, for example, the UK authorities now a lot more about that than you do. From what you say, it seems that they suspect that you cannot actually afford it.

All that has nothing to do with the relationship. If you were applying as a student, the relationship should have had nothing to do with the application.

Unless you were actually applying to go to UK to marry your girlfriend and not as a student. I don't know how the authorities view marriages where the parties have never actually met yet. Of course, they are aware that such things are not un-normal in certain Indian societies, but a truly genuinely arranged marriage in a community where things are done that way is a different thing to we met online. I think you would have a very, very tough job persuading them that you are not simply after planting your feet in Britain.

So what do you next? How does love find a way? The answer is simple: if you can't go there, she must come here. That's easy. Indian tourist visas for British citizens are a rubber-stamp job, almost never refused. And the return flight is slightly cheaper starting in UK. You can even then get married here.

There you go. I don't know if my words are ugly or not, but facing facts is what has to be done.
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Skyliner, looking up your profile, I see that you have already had a UK student visa before, lived here, and you were threatened by your girlfriend's family. Just asking: is this a continuation of the same story?

If the Embassy said the refusal was because of insufficient funds, then it should be possible to re-apply when you have sufficient funds. They may be extra careful to check that your evidence of funds really holds, not that you just got some temporary evidence. I hear many students come to the UK with proper loans given by banks in India to study abroad.

If you are giving up getting a visa for studies and instead want to apply through sponsorship that is another story entirely. And probably much more difficult to obtain.
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Oh, an ongoing story, and a deep one too.

Well, at least our hero and heroine are still alive, and so is the relationship. But in the previous thread, you describe her as "your girlfriend," but here you say you have never met.

Rasika would be far better informed about the academic world than me, but another thing that occurs to me is about this having had a student visa before. I would suspect that a subsequent course of study should look like a progression, something more advanced, and not like just another any-old-course suggesting that the applicant just wants to get to UK.
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I must inform you Nick and Rasika , I have hidden somefacts about my relationship which I don't want to disclose .All I just want is a suggestion .
Nick..My institution is good but the reason for visa rejection was based on my fathers income ..
She is ready to come to India but here the problem is she is a Pakistani origin British citizen..
And yes Rasiska ..I have been loving her since more than two years and in those two years me and her were threatened by her brothers ..
I wish I could apply my entrance refusal letter so you guys can understand better ...
All I ask is what Now ..I want to go to UK and ask her parents permission for marriage ..
Can she sponsor me a visa ?
Nick.. I haven't mentioned any relationship status in my visa form
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Originally Posted by Skyliner View Post I want to go to UK and ask her parents permission for marriage ..
Didn't you already try that and got this in return...?

From your another thread.....

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Originally Posted by Skyliner View Post Her parents came to know about our relationship and they disapproved our relationship.we have planned to elope and marry each other.Now they are threatining if we do such they may kill us.
Two years on, did the situation change?

Sponsorship is a lot more difficult and I don't know what other ways she can sponsor you in a situation like this other than de facto/fiancee/partner/spouse visa.
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In your other thread you mentioned that you were in UK on a student Visa. How did you get your visa a couple of years ago since you mention now that your visa was rejected due to your parents financial condition?
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Unless she is in a well paid job, its unlikely she could sponsor you.
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I wonder, would it be easier if you married in another EU country?

If your girlfriend has a British passport, she will have free movement throughout the EU, so if you could get a Schengen visa to another EU country, it might be possible to marry there, as long as you're upfront about the purpose of your trip to the respective authorities.

Also, I'm assuming your girlfriend is over 18, in which case you don't need her parents permission to marry her, as long as she's an adult, whoever she chooses to marry is her business, not her parents.
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She has a well paid job of 18000 GBP PA .and yes she is over 18 and I would like to know once rejected for UK,will it be a negative point when applying for any schengen visa..I almost have waisted two lakhs rupees for visa .please guys help me out .and thanks so far .
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Originally Posted by Skyliner View Post She has a well paid job of 18000 GBP PA .and yes she is over 18 and I would like to know once rejected for UK,will it be a negative point when applying for any schengen visa..I almost have waisted two lakhs rupees for visa .please guys help me out .and thanks so far .
I can't remember for sure but I think I remember reading about 22k or 26k.

The last time my parents sponsored someone they also had to give a guarantee to provide accommodation if needed.

Didn't the UK government also introduce some sort of bond scheme as well.
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Originally Posted by JOHNLORD View Post Unless she is in a well paid job, its unlikely she could sponsor you.
From what I understand, the UK authorities are very suspicious when a single woman tries to sponsor a visit from a single man from abroad. I would say that there is no chance of such an application succeeding.

Why does it have to be sponsorship? If all you want to do is come to ask her parents for permission, why not apply for a regular tourist visa? If you have been here to study before, and have returned to your country after successfully completing your studies, there should be no problem, apart from showing you have funds while you are here for 2-3 weeks, say. And showing that you have a reason to go back - maybe a job in India?
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Denmark could be one of the easiest countries for you to get married. There you need the least amount of papers. You can apply at the marriage register offices yourself (one example: www.toender.dk/Borger/In-English.aspx ) or get help from one of the many agencies ( heiraten-leicht-gemacht.de/en/marriage-in-denmark ).

It is important for most countries to get the Danish marriage certificate apostilled in Kopenhagen (which can be done by post as well).
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Originally Posted by Rasika View Post From what I understand, the UK authorities are very suspicious when a single woman tries to sponsor a visit from a single man from abroad. I would say that there is no chance of such an application succeeding.
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In a prequel to this thread; I had given him the cleanest option to get married in St. Lucia. It's a constitutional monarchy under the Queen of England. No mush, no gush ! He, at that time decided to get married in India - His call.

As Columbo would say... It don't add up. His story from then (when he was a student) to now, when he's in India.

Apart from the threat from her family, he probably underestimates the amount of data GCHQ collects of it's citizens (and visitors) and shares with other branches, which makes his visa rejection, and other meta-data available to GOV.UK more problematic in overcoming the challenges it poses.

Marrying in a friendly third country was an easier solution. The caribbean door has become difficult to pry open now !

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