How to convert spouse's PIO to OCI?

#1 Jul 26th, 2016, 07:50
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We PIO holders based on marriage to an Indian are now thinking about how to convert it to an OCI.

I have a PIO card with the date of expiry in 2018 written on it. I know that according to the new rules it is now considered a lifelong OCI card, so Indian immigration officials and FRRO officials will know that it doesn't expire. But I'm concerned that airlines might not let me board after that expiry date, or other situations may be problematic, so I figure it is wise to convert it to an OCI card before 2018.

I'd love to hear from others who have done this already.

1) If I reside in India now but originally got the PIO card in my own country, is it advisable to do the conversion in India or at the original consulate? If in India, where?

2) Do we have to submit supporting documents like the marriage certificate, the spouse's passport copies, etc.? Are these requirements different in India or at consulates?

3) How long do we have to submit the original PIO card and/or passport for?

Any other advice?
Thank you!
#2 Jul 26th, 2016, 14:07
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Getting a Round Tuit

I intend to at least get my new passport details endorsed on my PIO card. No travel planned, maybe for a year or more, so I lack the pressure to get on with it.

Up to this point, the officials I have encountered at Indian airports have been adamant that there is nothing that I need to do. No rubber stamp, no conversion... just enjoy... for life... And the other side of the coin is that conversion for spice seems to be artificially delayed for many months.

When I eventually get around to the FRRO visit, I'll ask them what their current advice is. And how long it is taking here.
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Originally Posted by NonIndianResident View Post We PIO holders based on marriage to an Indian are now thinking about how to convert it to an OCI.

I have a PIO card with the date of expiry in 2018 written on it. I know that according to the new rules it is now considered a lifelong OCI card, so Indian immigration officials and FRRO officials will know that it doesn't expire. But I'm concerned that airlines might not let me board after that expiry date, or other situations may be problematic, so I figure it is wise to convert it to an OCI card before 2018.

I'd love to hear from others who have done this already ...

Sorry to gatecrash the party. Although I don't really qualify to answer, as you'd "love to hear from others who have done this already.", I hope you don't mind if I butt in here, as I think that some of the points below may go towards answering some of your questions.

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1) If I reside in India now but originally got the PIO card in my own country, is it advisable to do the conversion in India or at the original consulate? If in India, where?
All OCIs are ultimately processed in Delhi, not at Embassies or Consulates, so it really doesn't matter where you apply. However, in your case since you are a long term resident in India, I would recommend that you apply at the FRRO/SP of the district where you live, after filling in the form at

https://passport.gov.in/oci/ >> Click Here to Proceed >> OCI Registration (In Lieu Of Valid PIO-Card)
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OCI-Registration (In Lieu of PIO-Card) is an online process. OCI Applicants who are having valid PIO-cards may apply from here. Only after complete successful registration, an applicant will be considered as an OCI-Card Applicant (In Lieu of PIO-Card)
Key Points For OCI-Registration (In Lieu of PIO-Card)

1. Start registration as New OCI-Registration and fill all details required.

2. Provide Valid PIO-Card details at the place specified. PIO-Card should be valid as on 9th Jan 2015.

3. Complete Part-B of the registration process.

4. Documents supporting your application are to be uploaded in PDF format at the end of Part-B.

5. No registration-fee will be charged for such applications. However, SMS/Fax/Agent charges, as applicable, will be levied on the applicant.


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2) Do we have to submit supporting documents like the marriage certificate, the spouse's passport copies, etc.? Are these requirements different in India or at consulates?
You have to UPLOAD copies of those documents as part of Part B of the application. The requirements are the same whether applying from abroad or from India, because the upload site is the same.



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3) How long do we have to submit the original PIO card and/or passport for?
After the successful upload of the documents online, you have to make an appointment via the website at your FRRO/SP and then submit the originals. Whether they will keep the originals or whether they will verify them and return the originals to you after verification, only you will be able to tell us. I dunno.



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Any other advice?
The big difference between applying when in India and when abroad is the Police verification home visit, as far as I can tell.

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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post ... Up to this point, the officials I have encountered at Indian airports have been adamant that there is nothing that I need to do. No rubber stamp, no conversion... just enjoy... for life... And the other side of the coin is that conversion for spice seems to be artificially delayed for many months.

When I eventually get around to the FRRO visit, I'll ask them what their current advice is. And how long it is taking here.
Nick, although they say "PIO is a lifelong deemed OCI" blah blah, my sincere advice to you is to start the ball rolling. You have nothing to lose. The babus can get difficult over the years.

The reason for my caution is that, whilst researching visa rules for a Canadian today, I went to the BLS Canada website.

https://www.blsindia-canada.com/

(My advice to you is to temporarily disable your pop-up blockers, enable scripts and check for yourself)

Before anything else I got the pop-up below:
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IMPORTANT NOTICE

Please note that the deadline for the conversion from PIO cards to OCI cards is December 31st, 2016 and all PIO card holders are requested to submit their application through the PIO conversion link provided https://passport.gov.in/oci/welcome in order to avoid any inconvenience in their travel plan after 31st December, 2016.

Click here to Close

Now why would this be stressed as an "IMPORTANT NOTICE" if there wasn't more to it?
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Now why would this be stressed as an "IMPORTANT NOTICE" if there wasn't more to it?
Because outsourcing organisations have been known to spout complete bullshit.
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Go with that
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Originally Posted by ViShVa View Post
Before anything else I got the pop-up below:
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Now why would this be stressed as an "IMPORTANT NOTICE" if there wasn't more to it?
These was a notice in the local Indian news paper here as well. This is the first time I have seen any notice regarding POI to OCI conversion.

It also stated that up to 31 December 2016 these conversions will be done free of cost.
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Originally Posted by Govindpuri View Post It also stated that up to 31 December 2016 these conversions will be done free of cost.
I think we can write this off as just being the latest date of many. The truth is that most PIO card holders are either unaware of this or simply not bothered. Whilst that situation continues, I don't see how the govt can start charging for it --- at least not without decimating the already-poor take up.

But, one day, yes... they'll prove us wrong on this.

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