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#1 Aug 28th, 2014, 03:45
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Hi can anyone help me to find the correct way of writing safira in hindi or sanskrit, this is my daughters name and i wish to get a tattoo done, i already have shanti tattooed on one arm and im keen to add safiras name, thanks very much paul
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If it has an f (फ़) in it, then it can't be of Sanskrit origin, but must be of Persian or Arabic origin. So more of an Urdu word than Hindi. If it were Hindi that would actually be ph, pronounced f at random by some speakers of Hindi, but basically ph and f are considered the same thing in Hindi.
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thanks very much for your help , appreciated , paul
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Originally Posted by NonIndianResident View Post If it has an f (फ़) in it, then it can't be of Sanskrit origin, but must be of Persian or Arabic origin. So more of an Urdu word than Hindi. If it were Hindi that would actually be ph, pronounced f at random by some speakers of Hindi, but basically ph and f are considered the same thing in Hindi.
While certainly not of Sanskrit origin, many words having a f (फ़) sound in them are considered as valid Hindi pronunciations today.

In some words the "f" sound may be interchangeable with "ph" (as in fir- phir (then)) in everyday parlance. In other cases some speakers seem to have supplanted the original "ph" sound with a "f" out of an erroneous belief in the farsi origin of such a word (as in fool instead of phool (flower)) or fal in place of phal (fruit).

In many words the use of ph in stead of f might even be wrong, as in the word fikar, which is actually an Urdu word but it's as much a Hindustani one. I guess it all depends on where you draw the line between Hindi and Urdu, something about which one can debate endlessly.

By the way, here is an interesting discussion in a language forum on Urdu, Hindi: Indic F-words.
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Originally Posted by leggy View Post Hi can anyone help me to find the correct way of writing safira in hindi or sanskrit
I understand "hindi or sanskrit" as short for Devanagari. "Hindi men bindi" has now been standard usage for more than a century.
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But, there is no word like "safira" in Hindi or Urdu, so it would be up to OP how he uses it...
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Safira is probably derived from sapphire to mean something like the gemstone, could be any other language but is definitely not a Hindi name.

If you wish to keep a true Sanskrit/Hindi name, the closest option could be 'Nilima', which translates to something like a blue sapphire or sky.
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I don't think Paul is looking to change his daughter's name. He just wanted to know how to write it in the Devnagri script.
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Yes of course, but no harm in going a bit OT


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