Permits to enter Numbra, Pangong for Bangladeshi Ctitizen

#1 Feb 27th, 2017, 20:47
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Hello everyone!

Hope you are all doing great I am a long time lurker of this forums learning as much as I can from everyone and all the experience that they have shared! With that said, me and my friend just bought tickets to Leh for May 12th for about a 8 days trip.

Now, we haven't yet decided whether we'll use a travel agent or just wing it ourselves once we get there. We were talking with Indian Holiday to see how much a travel agent would cost.

Now today, after the tickets have been purchased, they just emailed saying that -

Please note this year Government is not giving permits to Bangladeshi citizen to enter in Numbra, Pangong and Tsomoriri Lake.

Now if we can't visit these 3 places, it kind of makes the trip an incomplete one. So I just wanted if someone can cross check and verify whether the Indian Government has taken such a decision as I couldn't find anything on google.

Looking forward to your replies as we really don't want to cancel our tickets
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It's not a new decision. It was always true that the permits given by the local DC's office to foreign citizens were NOT available for citizens of several countries, including Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. They even extended it so that they wouldn't give permits in Leh to citizens of other countries (eg US or UK) if they were born in those countries (eg Bangladesh, Sri Lanka).

In the past, you would have been told to get your permits from the Home Ministry in Delhi, and since that process is lengthy but of unpredictable length, you wouldn't have done it, most likely. Perhaps even that option has been rescinded, I don't know.

Luckily central Ladakh and the roads to Manali or Srinagar are all open and don't need a permit, and your trip will still be really nice and interesting without Pangong and Nubra.
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Originally Posted by Chowdhury Ripan View Post UPDATE::
# in ladakh region, the renowned tourist places like Pangong lake, Tso moriri etc. were restricted till July 2015, Now open for Bangladeshis.
But they need to get the Permit through local travel agents with minimum fee 1 day prior to his/her journey to those places.

As Bangladesh is now removed [from August 2015 onwards] from the restricted country list [Pakistan, China, Sri Lanka, Myanmar etc. still there in the list] , now they can approach for permits where any other foreign travelers can visit.
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Originally Posted by NonIndianResident View Post Thank you for this information! I didn't know that Bangladeshi visitors are now allowed to get a permit for border areas in Ladakh. That's useful information!
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Originally Posted by hasanbappy View Post I directly copy this message from the website of 'Ministry of Home Affairs, India'

'' With a view to promote tourism, some areas (notified by the
Government of India from time to time) can be visited by foreign
tourists, either in groups, or as a couple in the case of a husband and
wife, or by individuals, after obtaining the necessary permit from the
competent authority. Necessary powers have been delegated to
various authorities to issue the special permit, without the prior
approval of the Ministry of Home Affairs, to facilitate foreign tourists
subject to the following exceptions:
(i) Special instructions applicable to foreign diplomats and
members of the United Nations and International
Organisations holding Diplomatic / Official Passport are
issued by the Ministry of External Affairs.
(ii) Citizens of Afghanistan, China and Pakistan and foreign
nationals of Pakistani origin, shall not be issued a special
permit without the prior approval of the Ministry of Home
Affairs.''

you can see that the Ministry of Home Affairs, India does not mention about Bangladesh. I think that means Bangladeshi tourists now can visit Sikkim by getting Inner line permit like other foreign nationals. please check the following links for more information: http://mha1.nic.in/foreigDiv/PAP.html
Hoody - I suggest you visit the DC office in Leh and check for yourself. If you are told there's no restriction, well and good. You'll probably still have to go to a travel agent to get your permits.
If you are told there is a restriction, tell them that Bangladeshis are not on the MHA's restricted list as per the link quoted above. If they still don't ok your permits there's nothing much you can do, but it's worth a try.
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Dilliwala & NonIndianResident

Thank you so much for your quick comments

From what I have understood and going through the website of MHA, India that permits should be open for Bangladeshis from 2015 That is excellent news! Thank you so much Dilliwala for your advice, I will definitely check up on the District Office upon arrival.

I had another query and I am not sure whether I should open another thread or not.

I have bought my flight for May 13 arrival at Leh! In case me and my friend don't get the permit, what could be a good itinerary for the 7 days we are scheduled to stay there? I was thinking about visiting Sonamarg!

But again not sure if usually the Srinagar - Leh highway is usable by 2nd week of May.

Would be delighted with some advice here
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Thanks for reminding me of the good news that I had already heard and forgotten!

The road to Sonamarg might be open in mid-May, but there's so much to see in central Ladakh. Why do you want to travel such long distances by road? Bumpy roads, winding passes. Is that how you want to spend your holidays?

I'd recommend visiting Shey, Thikse, Hemis, Chemre as one trip, possibly spending an overnight somewhere just to be able to spend more time out of the vehicle, though it's perfectly possible and common to do three of those in one day.

Another trip, go to Kargil and back, stopping overnight optionally in Kargil, Lamayuru, Uleytokpo, and/or Alchi. Or seeing Phyang and Ridzong along the way.

During an overnight in a village, it would be nice to have a half day or whole day in place just for a good long walk. Or do a simple one or two night trek in the high mountains using homestays so you don't have to carry a tent or use a guide. Those are available in the Markha valley, or Rumbak village, or any part of the Sham Valley trek Likir-Saspotse-Yangthang-Ule-Hemisshukpachan-Ang-Tingmosgang. That's the best way to really see the mountains and get out of vehicles and traffic for a bit.

And a couple of days in Leh town -- the arrival day and next day just for acclimatising to the altitude in case any of you get AMS, and later in the week, a day or two for exploring, seeing sights, trying local food and other types of food available, and walking.
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NonIndianResident!

Thank you so much for taking such a detailed reply! Ofcourse, we really don't want to spend the majority of our trip on the road as that would be pointless travelling long distances and then only getting an hour or so to enjoy the place. With the good news from Dilliwala, this is a sample itinerary I have thought of.

Please do provide your feedback as to how I can improve it. As I personally don't know the location and distance of a lot of the places you have mentioned, could you please add them to this plan where possible?

12th May - Arrival at Delhi at 12 05 pm.

13th May - Arrival at Leh at 7 am. Full Day rest.

14th May - Leh Rest Day.

15th May - Leh Rest Day.

16th May - Leh to Pangong Lake, overnight stay at camp.

17th May - Pangong Lake to Leh. Visiting Thiksey and Shey on the way back.

18th May - Leh to Nubra Valley, overnight stay at camp.

19th May - Nubra Valley to Leh.

20th May - Departure to home.


I love the hikes you have mentioned and the places sound like a real gem and not the typical touristy places. But since we have just the few days in hand, I am not sure how I can have the best possible trip - travelling less and enjoying more.

Really looking forward to your feedback
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Again, I can only weigh in on the permit matter -

Not sure if Leh-Pangong, night stay again at Leh, then to Nubra - whether this can be covered in one permit or requires 2 separate permits.
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Dilliwala,

If that is indeed the case, we should be able to apply for 2 permits, right?
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Certainly you can apply for two, if indeed you need two. Wait for NIR to answer, she's the resident expert on Ladakh.
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I will definitely wait for her answer then

I asked a similar question at tripadvisor and was suggested an itinerary like this - is this a feasible journey and is it making things too rushed?

12th May - Arrival at Delhi at 12 05 pm.

13th May - Arrival at Leh at 7 am. Full Day rest.

14th May - Leh to Sham Valley

15th May - Sham Valley to Leh.

16th May - Leh to Turtuk which is at the extreme end of Nubra Valley, overnight in homestay (don't prebook).

17th May - Post lunch start from Turtuk towards Dekit/Sumur in Nubra valley' stay overnight in homestay/tent

18th May - Early morning start from Deskit/Sumur towards Pangong via Shyok Village route. Driver has to be a confident Ladakhi one and vehicle has to have reasonable ground clearance (something like Scorpio, Aria). Beautiful and adventurous route. Overnight in Pangong in homestay/tent. Don't prebook as long as you have a car with a driver.

19th May - Pangong Lake to Leh. You could do Thiksey or Hemis monastery en route if you have time.

20th May - Departure to home.

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