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kunalkadam Sep 11th, 2011 15:01

Pangong to Tso moriri via Hanle
 
hi,

I will be visiting Ladakh in oct first week.
We are 4 perons and will be renting a car from Leh.
I would like to know whether i can travel to hanle and then Tso moriri what is the distance ,road condition and time required

kshil Sep 11th, 2011 20:45

You can visit Hanle if you get permit for the place from DC Office Leh. Hanle can be approached both from Spangmik/Chusul; Erath/Chusul and Upashi/Mahe/Nyoma route and after reaching Loma you have to go towards Hanle via Rhongo. So you have to get permits according to route you would be choosing and must mention all the places enroute in the permit to avoid any disappointment later as ITBP is quite strict and if they find any place not mentioned in permit that they think should be to allow you to take the route, they may turn you back.

Hanle - Tsomoriri is also can be done via normal route i.e. via back to Loma - Nyoma - Korzok or the shorter one via Chumur but not advisable as the route needs more permits and road needs good car and experienced driver to navigate.

There are very few staying options at Hanle, so check out if you can get anything in October.

Spangmik - Hanle should be a 6/7 hours drive but with photo stops can take 10/11 hours and Hanle - Tsomoriri may be slightly more than that. Few members have recently taken this route and wait for a first hand update on road conditions and time taken from them directly.

kunalkadam Sep 13th, 2011 01:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by kshil (Post 1261003)
You can visit Hanle if you get permit for the place from DC Office Leh. Hanle can be approached both from Spangmik/Chusul; Erath/Chusul and Upashi/Mahe/Nyoma route and after reaching Loma you have to go towards Hanle via Rhongo. So you have to get permits according to route you would be choosing and must mention all the places enroute in the permit to avoid any disappointment later as ITBP is quite strict and if they find any place not mentioned in permit that they think should be to allow you to take the route, they may turn you back.

Hanle - Tsomoriri is also can be done via normal route i.e. via back to Loma - Nyoma - Korzok or the shorter one via Chumur but not advisable as the route needs more permits and road needs good car and experienced driver to navigate.

There are very few staying options at Hanle, so check out if you can get anything in October.

Spangmik - Hanle should be a 6/7 hours drive but with photo stops can take 10/11 hours and Hanle - Tsomoriri may be slightly more than that. Few members have recently taken this route and wait for a first hand update on road conditions and time taken from them directly.

thanks for your inputs,
but will any taxi drivers from leh agree to do this if i get a permit.
and do i need any permissions to stay at pwd guesthouse or to visit chandra at hanle

kshil Sep 13th, 2011 11:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by kunalkadam (Post 1261641)
thanks for your inputs,
but will any taxi drivers from leh agree to do this if i get a permit.
and do i need any permissions to stay at pwd guesthouse or to visit chandra at hanle

Taxi drivers would be willing to go or not depends on then weather/ road condition and ofcourse the demand /supply trend. If they can get some standard route like Nubra/Pangong/Tsomoriri, they might not be interested in taking this route as part of the route would be rough and they need to carry fuel or need to buy it from locals. Also sometimes depend on experience of the driver, not all drivers are comfortable taking all the routes. But you should be able to find someone considering the route is becoming quite popular.

To Visit Hanle Telescope, you have to reach within a certain time with no prior permission but staying their guest house is impossible if you don't know someone in Indian Institute of Astrophysics. They don't entertain any guest to stay without prior permission and getting that is not easy. PWD GH and very few homestays are available which you can avail if they are free.

kunalkadam Sep 17th, 2011 02:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by kshil (Post 1261815)
Taxi drivers would be willing to go or not depends on then weather/ road condition and ofcourse the demand /supply trend. If they can get some standard route like Nubra/Pangong/Tsomoriri, they might not be interested in taking this route as part of the route would be rough and they need to carry fuel or need to buy it from locals. Also sometimes depend on experience of the driver, not all drivers are comfortable taking all the routes. But you should be able to find someone considering the route is becoming quite popular.

To Visit Hanle Telescope, you have to reach within a certain time with no prior permission but staying their guest house is impossible if you don't know someone in Indian Institute of Astrophysics. They don't entertain any guest to stay without prior permission and getting that is not easy. PWD GH and very few homestays are available which you can avail if they are free.

thanks kshil,
what would be the approx time of travel from spangmik to hanle and hanle to tso moriri
and for PWD guesthouse do i need some permission.

kshil Sep 17th, 2011 02:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by kunalkadam (Post 1264052)
thanks kshil,
what would be the approx time of travel from spangmik to hanle and hanle to tso moriri
and for PWD guesthouse do i need some permission.

Spangmik - Hanle and Hanle - Tsomoriri both would be 7/8 hours but with lots of photo opportunities might increase as well. PWD GH you can get on spot if available, no prior permission is needed.

kunalkadam Sep 18th, 2011 13:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by kshil (Post 1261815)
Taxi drivers would be willing to go or not depends on then weather/ road condition and ofcourse the demand /supply trend. If they can get some standard route like Nubra/Pangong/Tsomoriri, they might not be interested in taking this route as part of the route would be rough and they need to carry fuel or need to buy it from locals. Also sometimes depend on experience of the driver, not all drivers are comfortable taking all the routes. But you should be able to find someone considering the route is becoming quite popular.

To Visit Hanle Telescope, you have to reach within a certain time with no prior permission but staying their guest house is impossible if you don't know someone in Indian Institute of Astrophysics. They don't entertain any guest to stay without prior permission and getting that is not easy. PWD GH and very few homestays are available which you can avail if they are free.

can you recomend some taxi driver whom i can contact

kunalkadam Sep 18th, 2011 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by kshil (Post 1261003)
You can visit Hanle if you get permit for the place from DC Office Leh. Hanle can be approached both from Spangmik/Chusul; Erath/Chusul and Upashi/Mahe/Nyoma route and after reaching Loma you have to go towards Hanle via Rhongo. So you have to get permits according to route you would be choosing and must mention all the places enroute in the permit to avoid any disappointment later as ITBP is quite strict and if they find any place not mentioned in permit that they think should be to allow you to take the route, they may turn you back.

Hanle - Tsomoriri is also can be done via normal route i.e. via back to Loma - Nyoma - Korzok or the shorter one via Chumur but not advisable as the route needs more permits and road needs good car and experienced driver to navigate.

There are very few staying options at Hanle, so check out if you can get anything in October.

Spangmik - Hanle should be a 6/7 hours drive but with photo stops can take 10/11 hours and Hanle - Tsomoriri may be slightly more than that. Few members have recently taken this route and wait for a first hand update on road conditions and time taken from them directly.

i intend to do this Pongong tso-Man-Merak-Chusul-Tsagala-Loma-Nyoma-Hanle.

kshil Sep 18th, 2011 14:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by kunalkadam (Post 1264592)
i intend to do this Pongong tso-Man-Merak-Chusul-Tsagala-Loma-Nyoma-Hanle.

I am not sure what you mean here? What is your question, can you clarify? Nyoma doesn't come under the way between Pangong to Hanle, it comes between Hanle and Tsomoriri though.

Regarding driver/car, I am sending you a PM.

kunalkadam Sep 18th, 2011 15:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by kshil (Post 1264601)
I am not sure what you mean here? What is your question, can you clarify? Nyoma doesn't come under the way between Pangong to Hanle, it comes between Hanle and Tsomoriri though.

Regarding driver/car, I am sending you a PM.


thanks for message kshil,i will contact him
what i actually meant was i wanted to travel by
Spangmik-Man-Merak-Chusul-Tsagala-Loma—Rhongo-Hanle
will it possible 7-8 hrs

kshil Sep 18th, 2011 15:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by kunalkadam (Post 1264619)
thanks for message kshil,i will contact him
what i actually meant was i wanted to travel by
Spangmik-Man-Merak-Chusul-Tsagala-Loma—Rhongo-Hanle
will it possible 7-8 hrs

Yes it is around 7/8 hous but more you stop for photographs, time reqired would be more, it's an awesome circuit to cover for sure. But remember you have not much option of stay at Hanle except one Homestay and one PWD GH for which you have to search for key. Observatory GH won't allow you unless you have prior permission to stay there getting which is extremely difficult.

sanyamshri Nov 2nd, 2011 22:56

Information about IAO, Hanle
 
Hello Kshil,


Seen through your conversation above.
My astronomy club is also planning to visit Indian astronomical observatory in Hanle by december 23.
I already had word with IIA professor there and the Distrcit commissioner.
But I need some help, Hope you can help me out.
1. What is the actual route to Hanle, from Bhopal, Madhya pradesh and How much will overall journey cost for 1 person ?
2. Is there any food stufff facility there ?
3. Please message me the number of Taxi Driver and what cost he will charge ?
4. How will be the road conditions there in december ?
5. As we will get there and the tour is of 5 days, How will we come back after 5 days ? Will contacting Driver helps ? Or can the driver wait for some 5 days or is there any other aid ?

Please kShil Help me out with these questions?

My number 09407522209
I am president of Star astronomy club Bhopal

Will be waiting for your reply :)Can help us alot.
Thanks and best regards

Sanyam kumar shrivastava

kshil Nov 3rd, 2011 05:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by sanyamshri (Post 1288141)
Hello Kshil,
Seen through your conversation above.
My astronomy club is also planning to visit Indian astronomical observatory in Hanle by december 23.
I already had word with IIA professor there and the Distrcit commissioner.
But I need some help, Hope you can help me out.
1. What is the actual route to Hanle, from Bhopal, Madhya pradesh and How much will overall journey cost for 1 person ?
2. Is there any food stufff facility there ?
3. Please message me the number of Taxi Driver and what cost he will charge ?
4. How will be the road conditions there in december ?
5. As we will get there and the tour is of 5 days, How will we come back after 5 days ? Will contacting Driver helps ? Or can the driver wait for some 5 days or is there any other aid ?

Please kShil Help me out with these questions?

My number 09407522209
I am president of Star astronomy club Bhopal

Will be waiting for your reply :)Can help us alot.
Thanks and best regards

Sanyam kumar shrivastava

Hello Mr. Shrivastava, welcome to IM and hope you would enjoy this forum.

I am trying to answer your queries one by one.

1. What is the actual route to Hanle, from Bhopal, Madhya pradesh and How much will overall journey cost for 1 person ?

From anywhere in India you have to first reach Leh and get your permits from DC. In December only option is fly. Check out from where you get economical flight tickets for Leh. Leh flight most likely be available from Delhi and Chandigarh during that time. You need to travel to Delhi/Chandigarh from Bhopal possibly by road/rail/air.

From leh the direct route is via Upashi - Chumathang - Nyoma - Loma - Hanle. Almost 250kms oneway and drop by cab (that can take 6 persons) would be 8281 and a return trip would cost you 10189 from Leh. Now based on your other modes of travel and cost, cost per person would come out. But Leh - Hanle in winter you have to depend on reserved cab. I don't expect much of public transport during that time but you can confirm it with IIA.

2. Is there any food stufff facility there ?

Yes all facilities are there infact those are one of the best facilities in the whole region. But rooms are limited, if you are big group, speak to IIA if they can provide you accommodation.

3. Please message me the number of Taxi Driver and what cost he will charge ?

Go through my trip report here, you would get all information.

http://www.indiamike.com/india/ladak...4/?scrollTo=post1282629


4. How will be the road conditions there in december ?

Road condition would be good, it's all paved road from Leh to Hanle and as you won't cross any high pass in between, you shouldn't have trouble. But keep time to acclimatize in Leh. You should stay atleast 2 days (preferably 3) before trying for Hanle, its around 15000 ft.

5. As we will get there and the tour is of 5 days, How will we come back after 5 days ? Will contacting Driver helps ? Or can the driver wait for some 5 days or is there any other aid ?

Talk to Taxi drivers and see if keeping the cab for 5 days is cheaper or better to take a drop and pickup. Go by economics.


You can also go through my trip report in following 2 links for more information on Hanle:

Hanle Observatory

Hanle Snaps

sanyamshri Nov 15th, 2011 16:31

Thanks Kaushik

You have provided and helped alot with many required informations.
Can u pls give me ur contact number
mine is 09407522209:)

Ravi sSidhu Apr 27th, 2013 12:35

Hanle
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sanyamshri (Post 1295660)
Thanks Kaushik

You have provided and helped alot with many required informations.
Can u pls give me ur contact number
mine is 09407522209:)

Please can anyone tell me why it would be worth it to spend a night in Hanle?


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