Leh trip with senior citizen in June 2017

#1 Dec 26th, 2016, 22:32
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Hi , We are planning Leh for June 2017. Total 4 .Age : two senior citizen (63+) and two are under 30.

We are from Kolkata.We would like to go with travel agent.
Could you please suggest any reliable travel agent. Is the below plan doable for senior citizens.if not please suggest alternate plan.

Day 1 Delhi - Manali
Day 2 Manali - Keylong
Day 3 Keylong - Leh

Day 4 :Leh – Indus Valley Tour – Leh (90 km round trip / 7-8 hours)
Hemis Monastery- India’s wealthiest monastery, Hemis is the biggest one too and the site of an annual festival.

Overnight stay in Leh.

Day 5 Leh - Nubra Valley (Valley of Flowers) (125km / 4-5 hours)
Stay overnight at the camp.

Day 6 Nubra Valley - Leh (125 km)

Day 7 Leh - Pangong Lake (135 km)
Overnight stay at the Camp.

Day 8 Pangong - Tsomoriri Lake (240 km / 9-10 hours)
Stay overnight in the camp.

Day 9 Tso Moriri Lake - Toskar Lake - Leh (235 km / 8-9 hours)
Overnight stay.

Day 10 Leh - Uleytokpo (82 km / 2-3 hours)
Alchi and other monastery.

Day 11 Uleytokpo.Overnight stay at Uleytokpo.

Day 12Uleytokpo - Leh (70km / 2-3 hours)
indulge in some last minute shopping at the popular markets of Leh such as Moti market, Balkhang chowk for apricot and Super Market.

Overnight stay at Hotel.

Day 13 Leh - Delhi. (Departure) transfer to the airport to board flight for Delhi.
#2 Dec 27th, 2016, 14:31
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My piece of mind :-

1. Approach Leh from Srinagar side which will be better for acclimatization i.e. Srinagar-Kargil-Leh. From Manali side, it doesn't really help in terms of acclimatization but well the view are even better compare to Srinagar.

2. Either from the side you reach Leh, check whether Zozila or Rohthang La is opened or not incase you have scheduled it in the first week of June.

3. Avoid nights at Pangong or Tsomoriri, specially Tsomoriri since cold will bone chilling in the month of June
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Originally Posted by Ghosal View Post My piece of mind :-

1. Approach Leh from Srinagar side which will be better for acclimatization i.e. Srinagar-Kargil-Leh. From Manali side, it doesn't really help in terms of acclimatization but well the view are even better compare to Srinagar.

2. Either from the side you reach Leh, check whether Zozila or Rohthang La is opened or not incase you have scheduled it in the first week of June.

3. Avoid nights at Pangong or Tsomoriri, specially Tsomoriri since cold will bone chilling in the month of June
Ok , Thanks for your reply Ghosal Sir,

Actually I also want to go from Srinagar for acclimatization , but this political issue

Somebody suggested to go directly by flight to Leh from Kolkata. But Being with Senior Citizen , I think it will be a big problem for acclimatization , even for us too. What do you think ?

Will this below plan will be better ? I am wondering if Kashmir will be fine that time !!



1st Day : Dep. Kolkata to Srinagar and transfer to Hotel (Night stay at Srinagar).

2nd Day : After Breakfast Srinagar to Gulmarg & back to Hotel (Night stay at Srinagar).

3rd Day : After Breakfast Srinagar to Pahelgaon & back to Hotel (Night stay at Srinagar).

4th Day : After Breakfast Srinagar Local Tour and After Lunch Dal Lake Shikara Tours.

5th Day : Dep. Srinagar at 05:00a.m. to Kargil Arrive at 05:00p.m. (Night stay at Kargil).

6th Day : Dep. Kargil at 07:00a.m. & Arrive Leh at 05:00p.m. (Night stay at Leh).

7th Day : Leh local Sight Seeing and back to Hotel (Night stay at Leh).

8th Day : After Breakfast Leh to Nubra Valley via Khardungla Pass.(Night stay at Nubra).

9th Day : After Breakfast Dep. Nubra to Leh via Khardungla Pass. ( Night stay at Leh ).

10th Day : After Breakfast Leh to Pangon Lake Sight Seeing & back. ( Night stay at Leh ).

11th Day: Leh to Kolkata
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My advise will be to ascend and descending Leh both my road even with senior citizens. Srinagar-Leh route for acclimatization and Leh-Manali for mesmerizing beauty. I didn't know any such road which have that beauty, atleast I've not came across. Only challange is the night halt between Leh to Manali. Ideal point would have been Sarchu but considering the senior citizen factor and your time of travelling, it's not recommended. Height is 14000 Ft. with freezing cold wind at day time are certainly a matter of concern. You can start early from Leh and break your journey at Keylong or Jispa. Also, you need not to start at 5.00 A.M from Srinagar to reach Kargil at 5.00 P.M, it's hardly 8/9 hours drive.
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I am a senior citizen, although I don't act like it. I have been flying into Leh for years, I am still alive.

Check the AMS threads for guidance. A 63 yr old with no medical problems with a PROPERLY CALCULATED ASCENT RATE - sorry to shout...will have no difficulties.

Srinagar has always been the best road route AMSwise, the political situation is a different factor.

On the other hand the itinerary is lunacy - see 'leh in 5 days or less' thread, not to mention far too much time in a taxi.

Give those oldster backsides a break - they will enjoy it more.

have a good time
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Originally Posted by arjunrobert View Post ... But Being with Senior Citizen , I think it will be a big problem for acclimatization ...

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Originally Posted by Ghosal View Post ...Ideal point would have been Sarchu but considering the senior citizen factor ... freezing cold wind .

The missing term in this discussion is the junior citizen factor : the 60+ group is at lower risk for AMS.

I'm in my late fifties now , and winter is my favorite time in the Himalayas. Last year I flew in to the worlds highest airport , and spent a couple of weeks at 4000+ . In December. This New Year's Eve I didn't even have to make the point that the newly arrived twenty something couple in Gyalthang ( slightly lower than Leh ) had no chance to attend the festivities , with a previous acclimatization night at 2400-ish meters.
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On the other hand the itinerary is lunacy - see 'leh in 5 days or less' thread....
Near random association : I'm already guessing this will be my favorite terse article title found this year : " Rapid ascent to high altitude is folly " , from an army medical journal .

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Ascent+folly

( last years favorite : " How not to train your dragon : a case of Komodo dragon bite " )
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May I suggest you ask the senior citizens to consult their doctor before embarking on this trip? Last Aug I was motorbiking in Leh with my wife. We are both healthy and in our thirties. Despite being fit and taking precautions (taking diamox tablet) my wife got severely hit by AMS when we were camping on the banks ot Tso Kar lake. She needed to be rushed to the nearest village where she spent the night in a kind villager's hut buried under 3 warm quilts. AMS affects differently people differently. I don't want to discourage you but please take precaution.
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Thanks wolf80 for your sharing your experience .. It is really helpful. Ghosal Sir already suggested not to stay overnight at that much high altitude for cold.To avoid this we are not going TSoMorori and TSO kar .
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Originally Posted by arjunrobert View Post Thanks wolf80 for your sharing your experience .. It is really helpful. Ghosal Sir already suggested not to stay overnight at that much high altitude for cold.To avoid this we are not going TSoMorori and TSO kar .
You could go directly from Nubra to Pangong lake via the Shyok river route if it is in good shape. This will shorten your trip by another day. Since you are not going to Tso Moriri and Tso Kar, totally you will have 3 more days at your disposal. You can use 2 days to acclimatise or shop for supplies (if needed) in Leh before embarking on your adventure and 1 day as a back up for something else. Have fun!
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Originally Posted by wolf80 View Post May I suggest you ask the senior citizens to consult their doctor before embarking on this trip?
My suggestion : seek competent medical advice - which makes the GP a second hand choice at best. Go to a travel clinic. I´ve seen countless examples over the years of GPs being unaware of basic guidelines and improvising medication ( one favorite example : dont take aspirin , since it "thins the blood" and you need all your red blood cells at high altitude ) . And again : age in itself is not a risk factor , the 50+ are actually at lower risk .

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This may be over-interpreting , but if taken literally ( tablet , singular dose per day ) : not according to guidelines. I saw a thread fairly recently on another forum where all posters but one had received single doses per day , in conflict with all specialist advice.
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Thanks for your valuable suggestion.
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Originally Posted by arjunrobert View Post Thanks for your valuable suggestion.
So what is your final itinerary?
Even I have plans of visiting Leh with 60+ (near 70) year old dad and kid (almost 4 year old).. I too need advice on this..
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Post #3 is my final plan.My flights are booked already.
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I am not sure if it will be a good idea to visit Ladakh with 60+ (near 70) year old dad and kid (almost 4 year old).. Not sure of the risks..
My plan is a to enter through Kargil and depart through flight from Leh..
I don't want to spend much time in Srinagar..
But I am not sure if it will be safe for the kid and old persons in the team.. or what protective measure I should take so that we all can enjoy the tour..

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