Latvian national - missing and found too late - the aftermath

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#1 Apr 23rd, 2018, 13:10
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Latest on India Today website claims there seems to be no foul play...
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I think the police could have waited for the forensic reports to come in before making that statement.
It could pretty well turn out to be that based on what they may have seen at the site - but the reports would have given them conclusive evidence to make the statement.
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My wife Liga is MISSING in Kerala.. HELP!!

Maybe... But, according to some other article I read, they are getting criticised for holding out until they get post-mortem results before saying anything. So perhaps they are in a can't-win situation.

In general, it makes me wonder what can be expected by those who encounter crime or disaster in a foreign land. Does foreigner/visitor status endow some sort of vip status on them? Do the economics of the tourist trade require that it should? I don't know....
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post Maybe... But, according to some other article I read, they are getting criticised for holding out until they get post-mortem results before saying anything. So perhaps they are in a can't-win situation.

In general, it makes me wonder what can be expected by those who encounter crime or disaster in a foreign land. Does foreigner/visitor status endow some sort of vip status on them? Do the economics of the tourist trade require that it should? I don't know....
The family have been awarded 5lakh so they have VIP status.
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Originally Posted by JOHNLORD View Post The family have been awarded 5lakh so they have VIP status.
Add to that, the Govt. has proposed to transport the mortal remains of the deceased back to her native country, free of cost. Not that these would lessen the grief of the family, nor the Govt. is doing any favour to them, but yes, in a country where there are hundreds of deaths occurring every day, these announcements do seem like they are made by keeping some other angles in mind, as suggested by JohnLord above.
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There is a rash of monetary awards to victims and their families. No doubt it had its roots in the trying to ease the lives of those who may have lost the primary earner of the family. Now it seems like some sort of excuse or alternative to genuine concern and action on the part of politicians.

Financing the return of the mortal remains seems more genuinely helpful. However, the cynic in me supposes that more than a few tourists must die during their trips, and this is probably only done where circumstances have created publicity.

I do really hope that there is a genuine investigation in the case, to bring some sort of peace of mind (I think the modern term is closure) to the family.

I also think it matters to India. Perhaps it is a very small thing in the overall picture of the country's international image, but it is not so small to a place where tourism, if it is not already, is becoming the prime industry.
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Kerala: No injuries found on Latvian woman’s body
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THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: The doctors who conducted the postmortem of Liga Skromane, a Latvian woman who went missing since March 14, informed police that there were no internal injuries that could harm the bones or internal organs. All the internal organs were intact.

Though the head and one of her legs were found detached from the body, it appeared to have happened naturally after death, apparently during the decomposition stage. The right limb has come off from the knee socket when the skin and muscles covering it decayed and no external force seem to have been applied there.

The doctors told these facts to the police when the latter met them as part of the probe.

“According to the doctors, there is no incise wounds or fractures on the bones,” said city police commissioner P Prakash. The bones around the neck too were unharmed. If there was any attempt of strangulation, these bones could have sustained injuries too.

Internal organs, including viscera, collected from the body were sent to chemical examiners laboratory here to examine whether she was poisoned. There were pong pong trees on the spot, where her body was found. Another suspicion regarding her death is that she knowingly or unknowingly consumed the pong pong fruits, leading to the death.

“All agencies associated with the probe are working fast to get the results quickly,” the commissioner said, adding that the authorities of forensic science laboratory, who are carrying out the DNA test to confirm the identity of the deceased, and the chemical examiner’s laboratory have promised to provide the results in a few days’ time. The doctors, who conducted the autopsy too have promised to provide the official report before Wednesday,” Prakash said.

On Sunday, state police chief Loknath Behera issued a statement that IG (Thiruvananthapuram range) Manoj Abraham will supervise the investigation. The two officers met on Sunday and decided that all possible angles leading to the death would be probed. The suspicions of the family of the deceased would be taken into account too. The investigation team was directed by the police chief to consult the best of medico-legal and forensic experts to cover all aspects of the death.

Meanwhile, tourism director P Balakiran met Liga’s sister Ilze and offered financial aid to take the body back home. He also informed her that the government had decided to grant an immediate relief of Rs 5 lakh to the family. The decision was taken by tourism minister Kadakampally Surendran. The money would be handed over to Ilze soon.

The government would meet the travel expenses of the family members as well.
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Look at the photo (post #1). Read about why she had been taken to India (e.g. post #5). What would be found was always fairly predictable. It is unspeakably tragic and it is certainly not my intention to be unsympathetic, but payments by the government to the deceased's family are not appropriate.
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RPG, you are right. In fact, whilst I don't decry the practical help with travel expense and repatriation of the body, I find the cash offer a little distasteful: it is like they are paying the family to go away quietly. I wouldn't be happy with that if I were them.

I am not saying that the authorities have anything to hide. News update? As of last, it seems that there is no evidence of attack or involvement of anybody else in her death. The family may, or may not, accept that, but if they don't, then I guess they must commission their own post-mortem.
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Originally Posted by RPG View Post Look at the photo (post #1). Read about why she had been taken to India (e.g. post #5). What would be found was always fairly predictable. .
Looked like what in the photo exactly? How can somebody come to such a huge judgment just by a look at a photo?

I know you don't mean to me unsympathetic but unless I'm totally misconstruing your words what you've said here above (esp in bold) is not nice.

My condolences to the OP. This is really terrible news.
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Right from the off, the family have been unable to accept the fact she might commit suicide, they have been talking about organ harvesting and cages.

They appear to be under the impression that organ transplants are as simple as changing your torch batteries.

They don't seem to realise it would be far easier to kidnap migrant worker than a white female.

Anyway I hope they accept what has happened and try and get on with their lifes rather than look for non existent bogey men.

This matter still has a lot of unanswered questions .
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Cash donations to victims of rail and other traffic accidents, natural calamities like floods, stampede, drowning, terror attacks and farmer suicides and the like is a fairly common occurrence in India. Both the central and state governments pitch in so frequently that it’s the rule than exception nowadays.

The tourists are, sadly, in a gut wrenching miserable situation now. Staying in a foreign country can be prohibitively expensive and transporting mortal remains across continents isn’t cheap either. Lastly 5 lakh rupees is just some five thousand plus pounds. Not a whole lot of money. I admire Kerala government’s kind gesture.
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My wife Liga is MISSING in Kerala.. HELP!!

GBP 5 grand is certainly a whole lot of money... Even in UK.

Please don't think I resent the family getting assistance. I don't. I've heard, for instance, that repatriating bodies can be ruinously expensive.

BB, you don't have to look far too find pictures of this lady in a former healthy state. Compare. The lady in the latter pictures is not in such a state. We can see it, and we know it, because we know she was here for treatment of mental and emotional ills. Photo diagnosis? No way... That would be going too far. But the obvious is obvious.
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I don't find anything obvious in this case at all, other than the family's despair.

How can she have committed suicide and hung herself upside down from a tree ?
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Originally Posted by theyyamdancer View Post How can she have committed suicide and hung herself upside down from a tree ?
She cannot (especially not in that sequence); and indeed she did not. I am not sure where you got that.
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