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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post I passed a group of classical musicians nearly getting run over, the other day. I thought, "They look like Indians, but they walk and talk like foreigners." And it wasn't an obvious accent.
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I doubt an adventurous tourist from Trumplandia, hanging out in German Bakery in XYZ city in India, ever ventures into Harlem or Da Bronx because she has heard how dangerous them "black" neighborhoods are ! She would'nt mind taking a tour bus to dine at Sylvia's
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Well I could show you a few examples of videos I'd like to emulate if you want? Then you could tell me if it's suitable.

I've only been in Singapore for a few weeks. In truth It's just my hub from which I travel to other parts of Asia. I keep returning to Singapore as I have a place to stay there and it's very developed country.

On a separate note, I don't intend to be asking for help with translations often as I don't want to abuse this forum but I've been stuck with one that I need for a long time. how would I say the following in Hindi? "A Indian women's worth? Can't drink alcohol or go out alone." Thank you in advance!
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You are mistaken. A lot of Urban Indian women do drink alcohol and go out alone. And many rural women also go out to work. As for alcohol even a lot of men don't drink openly.
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How about this then? "A Indian women's worth? Judged for drinking alcohol, going out alone." Could someone translate that to Hindi please?
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Originally Posted by Darkweenduck1 View Post How about this then? "A Indian women's worth? Judged for drinking alcohol, going out alone." Could someone translate that to Hindi please?
The right question would be, as per my understanding, 'What is an Indian women's worth who is Judged for drinking alcohol and going out alone." (Now use some translation tool and post it here)

I really wonder why you want to include such a negative and complicated issue. Are these the only parameters to judge the worth of an Indian women?

You need to first study a lot about India and travel all across just listening to people, otherwise all your videos will be at risk of becoming a narrow vision presentation. Once you know you are ready, then jump into complex issues like your above query.
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I was hoping not to have to type lengthy posts nobody will be interested in, but it seems it will take more time to convey the situation if I don't.

The translation I am seeking is NOT for my channel. It is NOT for my videos. It is for my friends already existing channel. She is Asian and interviewed a half Indian woman across a series of videos about her life growing up in both India and Sweden. The Half Indian woman herself talked about how she was valued. Not MY words but HER words. Since in that specific video she also talks about not being able to buy alcohol without having to lie about who it is for, and how she was never able to go to bars or clubs alone, this is HER experience. I did not create these stories.

The problem my friend who interviewed her is having with her videos however is that she wants to have the title in both English AND Hindi so not to alienate the potential Indian audience. There is a limit to how long the title can be. It can only be 100 Characters long, which is why we are struggling to figure out how to fit in the Key words that will draw the most attention while being accurate to the subject matter.

Based on how my friends videos do upon release I will be able to see how I should approach my videos, both with titles, subject matter, etc.

With that in mind, could someone PLEASE help with creating a short title that will fit both in Hindi and English for 100 Characters or less?
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The translation I am seeking is NOT for my channel. It is NOT for my videos. It is for my friends already existing channel. She is Asian and interviewed a half Indian woman across a series of videos about her life growing up in both India and Sweden. The Half Indian woman herself talked about how she was valued. Not MY words but HER words. Since in that specific video she also talks about not being able to buy alcohol without having to lie about who it is for, and how she was never able to go to bars or clubs alone, this is HER experience. I did not create these stories.
It's a bit difficult being the go-between there. There is, as far as I am aware, no law which restricts a woman from going out alone or buying alcohol, anywhere in India. There are communities, though, that might impose such things on their members. I've heard people talk about Indian towns where they never see a woman on the street. I guess they weren't lying but, it's a million miles (well, maybe a few hundred or a thousand) from any India that I have known in the past twenty years. So it's a yes, but who and where? Missing flavours required.

In this city, now, we have trendy pubs. I have no idea if women go to them unaccompanied by men, because I don't go to them. However, we also have places where poorer, ordinaryer people buy alcohol, for consumption there or at home. Never seen a woman anywhere near one. Nobody or nothing says she can't. It is a whole other story that she doesn't because she wouldn't feel safe --- but they are pretty rough places. My [Indian] wife won't even go to a street tea shop.

There is a host of things in Indian culture that do devalue women: from dowry to diet...
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post It's a bit difficult being the go-between there. There is, as far as I am aware, no law which restricts a woman from going out alone or buying alcohol, anywhere in India. There are communities, though, that might impose such things on their members. I've heard people talk about Indian towns where they never see a woman on the street. I guess they weren't lying but, it's a million miles (well, maybe a few hundred or a thousand) from any India that I have known in the past twenty years. So it's a yes, but who and where? Missing flavours required.

In this city, now, we have trendy pubs. I have no idea if women go to them unaccompanied by men, because I don't go to them. However, we also have places where poorer, ordinaryer people buy alcohol, for consumption there or at home. Never seen a woman anywhere near one. Nobody or nothing says she can't. It is a whole other story that she doesn't because she wouldn't feel safe --- but they are pretty rough places. My [Indian] wife won't even go to a street tea shop.

There is a host of things in Indian culture that do devalue women: from dowry to diet...
It might have only been the towns this woman grew up in. However, since it's her experience, she wants to tell it how she felt it. The title in English isn't a problem, the issue is also having it in Hindi and then making it fit in the title. I could show you the video if you like so you can se what I mean.
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I could show you the video if you like so you can se what I mean.
Maybe first get your Hindi volunteer

But, if it is on youtube already?
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Well I was hoping someone here could help with that. This is what I keep returning to. I need a translation that gets the subject matter into both English and Hindi and fits into 100 letters. Unfortunately people have decided to question whether the subject matter of the video is correct or not (despite not having seen it) which isn't relevant as it's not my opinion or my video. It's the perspective of one Half Indian woman that's all. I'll make a thread in the expat section to specifically just ask about the translation since that's the thing that's most urgent right now. Once it's done then I'd be happy to show the video to the people here so that they can review it's validity.
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Gday Darkweenduck and welcome to India Mike.
I'm interested in what your doing and been keen to do something along the lines of a basic YouTube channel for short travel videos since my last trip to India.

I would recommend watching a guy called "Bald and Broke" on YouTube, he does great videos of off beat places, talks to locals in English and Hindi and I don't believe he does any of it on anything but a normal tourist visa.

How long do you plan on visiting India for and where would you like to spend your time? I have a few ideas for you regarding how to get the most out of your visit and get around some issues like language barrier etc.
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Originally Posted by JayBlue View Post Gday Darkweenduck and welcome to India Mike.
I'm interested in what your doing and been keen to do something along the lines of a basic YouTube channel for short travel videos since my last trip to India.

I would recommend watching a guy called "Bald and Broke" on YouTube, he does great videos of off beat places, talks to locals in English and Hindi and I don't believe he does any of it on anything but a normal tourist visa.

How long do you plan on visiting India for and where would you like to spend your time? I have a few ideas for you regarding how to get the most out of your visit and get around some issues like language barrier etc.
Thank you, much appreciated. I plan to be there at first for only 2 months, but if everything goes well, I'd return for a longer trip. On my first trip I'd just visit the major cities but on the longer trip I intend to visit a lot of smaller towns and villages. I want to start in Delhi.

I'll look into the youtube channel you suggest, thank you.

Regarding my channel, before I created any of my own content I wanted to see how my friend's content would fair when shown to an Indian audience. I think it would provide me better insight as to what works and what doesn't. I dare not invest a lot of time and energy following a certain narrative only to fall flat.
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Check out that guy on YouTube and others like him, there is good scope for the kind of thing you want to do. Short, informative videos with good editing is where it is at right now. Anything that can be compressed down to a quick video for the social media platforms is great.

Do you know the app tiktok? All my Indian mates are using this app non stop right now. It's just for making short videos of lip syncing to movie or songs but you can kind of understand the kind of stuff young Indians in the city want to see. Think buzzfeed...

Something important: your friends video sounds like it's going to be completely different from what you want to do and therefore may not be all that helpful in determining if your content will do well. What your going for is more travel and culture related, you are actually going to be in India talking to real locals. Very different vibe to interviews of a single person.

Two month to start is perfect to get your head around the basics. Hindi is incredibly easy to learn you will find you start picking up on a few words very quickly. I used a few online tools and phrasebook and after a few months it was easy to communicate with almost anyone. Also just about everyone speaks a bit of English and it wouldn't be hard to find a "unofficial" translator for a nominal fee. Especially in student towns like Bangalore...

So the cities are where your going to find the tech, support, translators etc but the villages is where IMO the real stories are! The real India is not easy to find and actually people can be remarkably shy and closed in for a place that has no sense of privacy.
Can't wait to see your content mate. Don't be afraid of the big scary questions and don't worry to much about naysayers.
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Originally Posted by Darkweenduck1 View Post How about this then? "A Indian women's worth? Judged for drinking alcohol, going out alone." Could someone translate that to Hindi please?
Google translate says

"एक भारतीय महिला की कीमत? शराब पीने के लिए जज, अकेले बाहर जाना।" if it is wrong, YouTube visitors will offer correction. I use Google translate and guests in our hotel, laugh and correct, or take out their phones and show me Spanish translation. We reach correct interpretation.
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Originally Posted by Darkweenduck1 View Post Unfortunately people have decided to question whether the subject matter of the video is correct or not (despite not having seen it) which isn't relevant as it's not my opinion or my video. It's the perspective of one Half Indian woman that's all.
Questioning is the right thing to do, specially when information comes in bits and pieces. Posters have the right to know what they are getting involved in, even if it is as insignificant as translating.

A perspective of half Indian women may be right, or it may be biased and far away from reality. There may be contents that someone may not agree to at all, and regret helping to put that out.

So take questioning as part of the process to get to what you really want, because ultimately, what counts is you getting a perfect translation.

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