Tiger conservation group?

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Hi -

I am appalled by the situation with tigers in India. Stories like this one are incredibly depressing.

I would like to donate some money to a non-government group working to protect the few remaining tigers in India - can anyone give me any information about a reputable group who might actually make a difference?
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Originally Posted by caitsith01 View Post Hi -

I am appalled by the situation with tigers in India. Stories like this one are incredibly depressing.

I would like to donate some money to a non-government group working to protect the few remaining tigers in India - can anyone give me any information about a reputable group who might actually make a difference?
Thats was so nice of you to think in that way, many people donate, but that will not help untill and unless we start spreading awareness about conserving tigers.

If you want to donate then there are many NGO and govt charitable institute where you can. i will post some good names soon.

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I am appalled by the situation with tigers in India. Stories like this one are incredibly depressing.
Hey why not buy some good clothes , shoes , torches and other essentialities for the forest department and donate it directly to the national park area , this was you will avoid the spilling of your money.

This in my opinion is a safe way to ensure less spillage of your contributions , and also is a good morale booster to the foot soilders protecting our jungles .
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Originally Posted by Nomad_traveller View Post Hey why not buy some good clothes , shoes , torches and other essentialities for the forest department and donate it directly to the national park area , this was you will avoid the spilling of your money.

This in my opinion is a safe way to ensure less spillage of your contributions , and also is a good morale booster to the foot soilders protecting our jungles .
Indeeda great idea Nomad
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Originally Posted by rohan_iiitc View Post Indeeda great idea Nomad
Thanks Mate .

About 4 yrs ago , my mom & her friends collected some money and bought chocolates , clothes , books , crayons etc and we visited the jungle area and gave it to the children in those remote school.

Since most jungle watchers / gaurds are from local areas nedless to say were so happy to see the kids smiling & laughing.

I made a lot of young friends that day , needless to say .
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Originally Posted by Nomad_traveller View Post Thanks Mate .

About 4 yrs ago , my mom & her friends collected some money and bought chocolates , clothes , books , crayons etc and we visited the jungle area and gave it to the children in those remote school.

Since most jungle watchers / gaurds are from local areas nedless to say were so happy to see the kids smiling & laughing.

I made a lot of young friends that day , needless to say .
Cool, but which jungle did you go ?
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While some of the parks in north India have lost their tigers, parks in the south are doing remarkably well and have reached a saturation point with tiger population. This is coming straight from the senior execs in the Forest Service. Given that female tigers need about 50 square miles and male tigers about 100 square miles of domain, what India needs now is more jungle area.

The following link shows you all the nation park and historical trends of animal population

http://projecttiger.nic.in/map.htm
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Yes, they need habitat in a desperate way .... & with the direction the human population density is headed, that will be a struggle.
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Originally Posted by Nomad_traveller View Post Hey why not buy some good clothes , shoes , torches and other essentialities for the forest department and donate it directly to the national park area , this was you will avoid the spilling of your money.

This in my opinion is a safe way to ensure less spillage of your contributions , and also is a good morale booster to the foot soilders protecting our jungles .

Promote a foot soldier, put him on 2 wheels--but make sure it has an electric motor-- silent running in the jungle--i would like to hear that.
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I wholeheartedly appreciate what the OP is trying to say, and do.
There are alledgedly, 1400-1500 tigers left in India.
If that number were to double to 3000 there would still be far too few !
The question to be asking is where would they all live ?
The only predator they need to worry about is humans.
There are too many humans slaughtering tigers for profit,but if those humans shooting the tigers stopped doing so, the numbers would rise even quicker, and then the tigers would spread even faster.
Thats where the big problem starts to become very evident.
Tigers need a territory, the more tigers, the larger the area needed for them.
A simple solution would be for the good people of India to stop breeding for a while.
This may also solve the problem of only 1 in 4 people in India having access to clean drinking water.

Education is the only way to proceed.
Every live tiger in the wild generates over a million dollars per year in revenue. What more does the Indian government need to know ?
Indias problems are many, but its a fact that there is no shortage of money in India these days. Long gone are the days of bankruptcy.
The Indian economy is now 3rd or 4th in the world, it has a space program.
It just needs to educate the population to slow down the breeding.
The land is nearly full !
While India is divided into so many different catagories of caste, religion, politics, states, tribes, and so forth they will always struggle to make headway in any direction.
Sorry for going all serious, but I have gotten a headache many times in the past, by thinking "What can I do to help" ?
Only India can help itself.
If India does'nt care what happens to the tigers, or even for its own people for that matter, why should anyone else.

Increasing tiger numbers would be really easy, but where would they live ?
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Originally Posted by FUGLY View Post I wholeheartedly appreciate what the OP is trying to say, and do.
There are alledgedly, 1400-1500 tigers left in India.
If that number were to double to 3000 there would still be far too few !
The question to be asking is where would they all live ?
The only predator they need to worry about is humans.
There are too many humans slaughtering tigers for profit,but if those humans shooting the tigers stopped doing so, the numbers would rise even quicker, and then the tigers would spread even faster.
Thats where the big problem starts to become very evident.
Tigers need a territory, the more tigers, the larger the area needed for them.
A simple solution would be for the good people of India to stop breeding for a while.
This may also solve the problem of only 1 in 4 people in India having access to clean drinking water.

Education is the only way to proceed.
Every live tiger in the wild generates over a million dollars per year in revenue. What more does the Indian government need to know ?
Indias problems are many, but its a fact that there is no shortage of money in India these days. Long gone are the days of bankruptcy.
The Indian economy is now 3rd or 4th in the world, it has a space program.
It just needs to educate the population to slow down the breeding.
The land is nearly full !
While India is divided into so many different catagories of caste, religion, politics, states, tribes, and so forth they will always struggle to make headway in any direction.
Sorry for going all serious, but I have gotten a headache many times in the past, by thinking "What can I do to help" ?
Only India can help itself.
If India does'nt care what happens to the tigers, or even for its own people for that matter, why should anyone else.

Increasing tiger numbers would be really easy, but where would they live ?

I totally agree with you, but in india there are many campaigns, acts, initiatives are being taken, but it has hardly made any impact, coz the main people who do all these crimes dont want to stop it as it has become a adiction and a profession for them.

Let me tel you one more incident which i came to knw is :

"I was in kolkata and i met a man who belonged to sunderban where you find many royal bengal tigers. He told me that the people are really scared of tigers are they some in their village and kill their cattle and humans also. Hence when ever they get a chance they kill the tiger and burry him under the earth and no forest ranger is able to identufy the situation. Hence the only way to save tigers is to relocate this village to some other place, but politicians will not let it happen as they have their voting banks their and gets lots of money for Tiger project and all goes to their pocket.

Thats India , but the awareness is good among school/college students, but they are no harm to the tigers. We should consuntrate on the other side of the effect.

I too get frustated when i want to but i wasnt able to help or even volunteer. I even resigned my job and searched some NGO or some way to volunteer to save tiegrs and other endangered species, but in vain, i never got any response from anyone.

Finaly i am joined a new company and theres nothing i can do currently.
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"There are only 1400 to 1500 tigers left"

It maybe already to late. Full genetic diversity for such a species is only possible with a minimum number of 2200------------some one tell me this is not true.
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Originally Posted by rohan_iiitc View Post Cool, but which jungle did you go ?
H.D Kote reserve forest range , Kaimara zone.

[QUOTE=crvlvr;1117193]50 square miles and male tigers about 100 square miles of domain, what India needs now is more jungle area.

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Originally Posted by redninja View Post Promote a foot soldier, put him on 2 wheels--but make sure it has an electric motor-- silent running in the jungle--i would like to hear that.
I think its about 50 ~ 100 Sq Km .

And i dont think electric scooter will work as they wont have any electricity there in those remote areas + the terrain would be too uneven ..

But my next plan is to give them solar chargers for lighting & nice LED torches
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cool work Nomad
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Tigers are not going to die out anytime soon.
In the USA there are apparently 25,000 + tigers.
A quarter of that is one heck of a gene pool.
Corruption is the mainstay of most of the problems in India,there is not a shortage of funds in India, just that some have too much, and so many have nothing.
But even if all the corruption was stamped out, and tiger numbers were able to only double, where would they live ?
Nature would very quickly provide the habitat for them, tigers, being cats, can provide the future generations of tigers themselves.
There are too many people in India that is the problem.
Most of India is covered in rubbish, the cities are full of sewage, life expectancy is low, and very very cheap.
To hopefully, have someone to care for, and look after them, when they grow old, people have loads of kids. Many of those families cannot afford to look after 1 child much less 3 or 4.
In India there are many, many rich people. Why cant they start the ball rolling ?
Why should it be left to caitsith01 or anyone else for that matter to contribute money, or time, or both, when India does so little to help itself ?

Maybe this thread should be moved out of the wildlife forum ?

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