Green Warrior moved out of Environment Ministry

#1 Jul 12th, 2011, 16:38
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Very disappointing news I wonder what will happen to our nature and wildlife now, what will happen to the Cheetah re introduction plan, will Gir Lions never be relocated now? He even fought for a single tree! we will never see such a minister again, those who followed Mr Jairam Ramesh would know what I am talking about.
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#2 Jul 12th, 2011, 16:48
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That is very bad news.

For starters, India will be dug up by Vedanata. Tomorrow.
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Was bound to happen. The going-going-gone sale of India's resources is too lucrative for all concerned for it to be otherwise.
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Well, it was waiting to happen. He had rubbed too many powers that be the wrong way.

He cancelled Vedanta's licence yesterday but now I am sure it will be revived sooner or later.
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Ramesh was the best Environment minister India had. Since he was not able to keep the industry happy he had to leave his post, but personally speaking he will be happy since he has been made in charge of Rural development with Cabinet rank. Earlier he was minister of state with independent charge.

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The justification which our PM tried to give that " he has been moved to a place where his talents would be better utilized " does not make any sense. Mr Ramesh has been punished for doing an unprecedented job. Everyone knows PM pressurized Mr Ramesh to clear many projects. Coal Minister whom Mr Ramesh confronted on several occasions was promoted and never moved.

I read an article where Mr Ramesh said after the re shuffle, he was about to relocate 2 tigresses to Sariska I could write on and on about the man..

His favorite animal was the Tiger, and he always fought like a Tiger. But I guess good things never last for long
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This is typical of Indian politics - move a good man when he is doing a good job!
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If India was a share, hedge funds would be selling it heavily in the international markets after this decision. I hope they do it with Vedanta and Posco.
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If I were a fund, I would be buying.
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He will do fine. Jerry is quintessentially a technocrat. It was not that Environment was a big portfolio (it did not even rank a full ministerial rank) he turned it into focal point by sheer dedication.

People like him will excel which ever position you put him in. Land Reforms ? Water ?

If you have followed his contributions to the re-election of INC, you'll know why Rural, and why now
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The question is not about what Mr Ramesh will do in rural development. The question is who will stop the Vedantas and the Poscos of the world now.
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Exactly, Calcuttan. Ramesh's career may thrive, India's mountains and trees will not.
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What has to happen will happen. Things don't move independently, the high command decides what to, and what not to do. Jaitapur was given the go ahead by the same ministry.

Government and Industries have played this game since long to come to a mutual decision on under the table payments. If it is not Vedanta or Posco, it will be someone else. Fortunately we have an active media and judiciary, that somewhat keeps a small check.
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Ok I will present a contrarian view here. I actually for once agree somewhat with PM when he says that the poverty is the biggest polluter anywhere in the world. Why is it that US, the biggest polluter in the world, till now looks, at least on tv, beautiful and pristine? Keep in mind I am here just talking from an environment POV not the farmer and tribal relocation and rehabilitation which is a separate issue.

I think Jairam has done a very fine job. He brought transparency in the ministry. Somewhere there was a feeling that he was a bit overzealous about his job and he was verging on being an environment activist rather than just environment minister.

Anyway the portfolio that is given to him Rural development is very very important. Lot of large schemes like NAREGA and others will now come under him where lot of clean up is needed and hopefully he will do a good job there and hopefully save billions for us from being wasted and leaked. Also Jayanti Natarajan who has replaced him is very smart and erudite who knows may be she will also do a good job in environment.
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Thanks Rushie. Let there be hope!

I remember reading, maybe five or six years back, that not one single project had ever been declined on environmental grounds, and that environmental-effect reports were hogwash and even fiction. I don't know what happened in between, but, against that sort of background, Ramesh would certainly look like an activist. Revolutionary even. I don't know if he was the first, but he was the first that this non-historian mere browser of newspapers saw to be saying no to Big Industry. I look forward to seeing Jayanti Natarajan (Tamil lady?*) in the same context.

You're right about the importance of the new job. Looking forward to seeing progress there too

*Yes, Wikkipedia tells me
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Jayanthi Natarajan was born in a Mudaliar family in Tamil Nadu. Her grandfather was M. Bakthavatsalam, a prominent Congress politician and Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu between 1963 and 1967. Jayanthi studied law and became a practising advocate in Madras. Apart from her commercial practice she also did pro bono work for a number of social organizations including the All India Women's Conference, and the legal aid board.
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