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#1 Mar 20th, 2011, 22:17
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Jim Corbett National Park made Easy

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Arranging a trip to Jim Corbett National Park is not as easy as many may think. So, please read this entire article before going off half cocked.

You start by Googling Corbett, and you will be given many websites as recommendeds to visit. These and other websites are full of lovely pictures, theres an odd email link to info@ some-website.com, and a phone number. So you email these people and "No Reply" comes the stern answer.
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Hi Spud, I understand where youare coming from but,as Fugly says, Ramesh is not a travel agent. He is often busy and out on safari so you may well get a standard email initially. Once you go back with your wishes I am sure he will offer you a good deal and will be flexiblefor your needs. What are your plans,please share here what you are looking for and we may be able to guide you. I am currently planning another trip to Corbett with Ramesh, can't wait to go back!
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@Fugly: Thanks a lot for this info. I am planning to visit Corbett during Dec 15-19 of this year. This will be the first time I would be visiting any wildlife sanctuary/park in India. Today, i called up the Corbett tiger reserve office (the phone no is available from the official website, which you mentioned) and they said that the bookings for the FRH's have not yet started. Someone in the Uttarakhand tourism office at Delhi also said the same. Apparently it will start from mid October. Does any one of you know more about this? I assumed that bookings start much earlier.

I am planning to travel by train from Delhi to Ramnagar and reach there early in the morning and then plan to book a jeep for the entire duration of my stay (for 4 days) at Corbett (all this happens if I am able to book accommodation).

I was suggested by a friend to stay for a couple of days at Dhikala and then move to Mailani, which is a quiet spot inside the forest. Does anyone have any experiences to share about this spot.

Thanks for all your help.
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little bit disagree with "FUGLY" Sir

all the information provided by FUGLY is very correct, but as far as the rate or money is concern I am little bit disagree. It is not necessary that every travel agent charge heavy. I am telling so because I visited corbett park this year by the same company about whom FUGLY described (corbettnationalpark-india.com). But I dont think that the origination cheat any kind or charge massive.

Actually, once i was in Halwani (in one of my relative house)thats my fist visit of there. When i was returning from there decided to visit corbett also and try to book resort and jeep safari. but the resort rate is too high. as high as we cannot afford and official told me that all the seat for jeep safari is already booked. So i return back without corbett tour.

Then after google for corbett tour in google.com and found some travel agent and at the same time i inform each travel agent that i willing to go for corbett tour. But the (corbett...-india.com)gave me the cheapest rate for that tour. and we go there by their help and never fell any kind of difficulty. inface its my best experience of any tour.
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Hi there deadmanwalking
I am pleased the info is of use to you.

Although the permits are not yet being issued they are certainly being processed. I have learned from various reliable sources that applications have already been submitted, through to, May 2013. I would not doubt that some smart individual has already submitted applications through to May 2025, good luck to them.

The weekends prior to Xmas and New Year will be extremely busy, and extremely hard to get, as these dates will already have been earmarked for applications submitted a year ago, or more. Dont even bother asking for the holiday period between 23rd Dec - Jan 3rd for accomodation inside.

The park authority staff are responsible for allocation of which accommodations go to who. Most people who want to stay inside the park, will ask for Dhikala forest lodge, it is obvious that not everyone can, so it is more than likely that it will be at one of the other rest houses in the Dhikala area which will be allocated. Party size will be another factor. If you were to specifically request one of the lesser known lodges, you would stand a better chance of not being disappointed.

The permits are issued in different ways for different reasons. For full day permits, and overnight stays you can apply in advance. For pm safari permits only, you can only queue up for these on the day. This makes allowance for anyone who has travelled to Corbett without any pre booked permits, which is not something I would recommend to anyone., unless they fancy a day looking around in Ramnagar.

For the last 2 weeks of the season, June 1st - 15th, it will be a case of permits are issued on the day only, NO pre booked permits. Queueing for these permits will start at around midnight, and at around 3.30 am the park security and police will move along anyone who is standing in line for an agent. Only persons actually applying for permits will be allowed to remain in the queue. The office will open I think, at around 5.30am.

The train from Delhi - Ramnagar is the easiest, and least expensive way to get to Corbett

From what I can glean from your posting above you are going to be very lucky to get everything you ask for, but I am sure mostly it will come to fruition if you hurry up.
Dont be put off by the thought of staying in the buffer zone rooms or resorts, safaris from there can be just as productive, a whole lot more comfortable, and better value too.
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Hi Praveen
I am very pleased you make mention of this, and I am happy to be proved wrong, because I would'nt want to give out misinformation.

I read your message above, and it confirms what I have just posted about arriving to Corbett without any prebooked permits or safaris.

My comments about the travel agent you mention is not based on any personal experiences with that agent. My comment was intended to alert others that the agents web address is very enliked to the genuine Corbett web site address, and that anyone who thought that this may be the genuine web address of Corbett park was mistaken. I myself made this mistake, but because of my previous knowledge of Corbett park, was'nt fooled for more than the time it took to read the page header.

The company mentioned is a travel agent, and therefore must be in the business of making profits, or they would face going out of business. I am not knocking them for that either, but, I believe that companies intention is to sway the unsuspecting public, into thinking they are the "Real Parks" booking agency, which they are not.

I'm pleased you enjoyed their tours, and that you had a great time, Corbett will have that effect on many, it certainly does on me. But as they are only a travel agent they probably only passed you on to a local company for the safaris.

That means another layer of cake needed to be paid for.
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Very useful information Fugly, it makes things much easier, thanks for your efforts.
So I will be traveling with 3 more adults and my 4 year old, in the last week of October. I got in touch with Ramesh, got his standard reply, replied back giving exact details of what I want, and its been a couple of days and I have not heard back. He may be busy and I am sure he is wonderful, but he really should have a better system, so that he does not keep people waiting endlessly.
So I was wondering if there is any other good guide you can recommend, who can arrange things for us, as everyone really needs to schedule their breaks beforehand.
Secondly, I needed some advice, I find the night train daunting, because one can never sleep well, and the next day goes by very slugushly. Is it possible to hire a cab for just one way (pay just the one way fare?), and return by train to Delhi?
Thanks!
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Hi Devink, I am sure Ramesh will be happy to organise a pick up from Delhi, we are planning the same. It does sometimes take him a little time to put a full itinerary together as he is so busy and works out every trip individually...no standard packages! he does not employ other staff to do this and so keeps the costs to you down and you get the best trip! I am sure when it arrives you will be happy with it. I hope you hear back soon.
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Hi there devinc
I am yet again, very pleased to have been of help.

As you have recieved their standard letter you will be fully aware the guys are not travel agents, they are only hicks from the sticks, who work very long hours, and are often away from home on tours. Then there are the power outages to consider, and the poor internet service they have.
Making you wait a couple of days is not good in my opinion, but having said that, many others , mainly travel agents, will keep you waiting much longer, sometimes for weeks. I know this because I always check around for comparable quotes from others too, and if I find any that I think are good, I'll forward them to Ramesh. He always manages to find something not quite right, or that he would do better, or differently, and explain why, to date I have never been able to fault his logic or better his prices for that same comparable quote.

The bit about waiting endlessly, after only a couple of days, is to be fair, a little bit of an exaggeration dont you think. Come the 15th November you will wait a lot longer I'm sure. I am full of admiration for the work they do, and the efficiency with which they do it. Considering they are not professionals, I think they do a terrific job. Dont take it personaly that he is making you wait, he makes everyone wait, including your truly, but he always gets the job done, and not once in the last seven or eight years has he failed me.

[Everyone needs to schedule their breaks beforehand]
This is very true, but you stated that you wish to visit at the end of October, in my opinion that is almost last minute planning. Corbett is very popular, and overseas visitors will have booked their trips anything up to 11 months in advance, to ensure best price plane tickets. In my earlier posting I mentioned that applications have been submited for trips far into the future. I personally always give Ramesh at least 6 months warning of the impending royal visit. That said, he will do you proud, please be patient, and he will get to you with plenty time to spare, of this I have no doubts.

[Re Guides]
I know many guides at Corbett, who I can and would recommend to you, but I am afraid to say that they all help Ramesh.

[Re Trains]
I find the train puts me to sleep, the sounds are hypnotic and steady, and as soon as the train starts rolling, I drift off. The train is clean and full of lovely people. I have never had any bad experiences while travelling on the trains between Delhi and Ramnagar, or the other way. I have met many lovely people though, and many of them still email me after many years.

[Re Taxi's]
At one end of the railroad is Delhi, they have countless taxi co's in Delhi. In Corbett, at the other end of the tracks, there is the local taxi company. The taxi company in Delhi that you choose will most probably be unknown to you, its unknown to me, its an unknown. The company from Corbett is very well known, and very well trusted, both the cars and the drivers are known, and have been for many years.
There is no difference between a trip to Delhi and a return for the Corbett cab, and a trip to Corbett and back for the Delhi cab. Returning to Delhi can be by bus, train, or car. Best would be the method that got you back for any connecting travel, cost is not always a factor to me, although, I usually tend to go for the cheaper option, but only if it is the better option.
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So I prejudged, because I did get a call from Ramesh an hour back, and he told me he will get back to me and organize the trip accordingly.
He told me that season is low right now, and there should be no issues in Oct, the only thing is that the FRH will open from mid November onwards.
I don't think its last minute, and I thus dont think that I am late in planning this trip, because it seems that the season is starting off. I can understand pre-booking many months in advance for Christmas and newyear and other popular holiday periods.
I thank you again for the time you have taken to reply to my queries.
I look forward to meeting Ramesh, and keeping in mind that no one is perfect or infallible I look forward to becoming a part of his growing fan following!
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This has been a very interesting thread so far.

I called up the Corbett Tiger reserve office and a lady told me that they are making efforts to start an online booking system for the FRH's. She added that in case this system starts, all previous paper applications that have already been sent there will be canceled !! All this information came out after much prodding, and she told me to keep a watch on the website. I am skeptical about this, because such a en-masse cancellation would be very unfair, and so i doubt if this is a bit of misinformation. Overall, i have a feeling that the staff in the park office are really reluctant to give out information on phone, which is a real loss for newbies like me.

I also got in touch with Ramesh Suyal and like Devinc said i haven't heard back from him, but hopefully i will find out something soon. If nothing works out, i will head out somewhere else and plan well ahead next time.
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I doubt very much if the applications already submitted would be dismissed out of hand just like that. More probable would be to reduce the number of permits issued online, and offset the number of applications already received.
The biggest problem they would encounter, would be the returning of all the money they have already received, as all applications need to be paid for in advance.

I am sure Ramesh will get to you before long.
But for you, and everyone else thinking of visiting Corbett,or any other tiger park, a few weeks is not enough notice, you should be thinking months minimum, not weeks.
Its not just the permits you need, you will want jeeps, as well as a very good guide. By leaving it until so late, you will only at best get an obligatory guide,and the people who get these rarely leave reports and reviews of the calibre of tripsammys safari report.
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I agree with you Fugly, that is why we are planning our next trip in March /April 2012 now. If you want to have the choice book early, if you are happy to take the risk and accept 'left overs' then book last minute. Just dont complain if you can't get the programme or experience you want!!
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I become fan of yours

Hi FUGLY Sir,

I become fan of yours now. You are from United kingdom. And have very good knowledge about Jim Corbett National Park infact very deep knowledge. I read you all the messages today and fully shocked. What a genius person you are, from UK but have knowledge of jim corbett. You know each and very thing abut Safari, Resorts and forest lodges.

How can be possible I thought hard. Heads off sir.

Sir please give me some tips what are the important points that one should keep in mind while booking any tour.

And one thing more you are not travel agent then how you have such deep knowledge about corbett tour and agents working process? Whats your profession and why you help people one whom who wanna go for corbett?

and last one who is Ramesh? Is he local tour agent?
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I can confirm that Fugly is NOT a local tour agent, he, like me is a tiger loving, India loving British tourist, he just happens to love Corbett and has visited many times.

Ramesh is a local guide who works with the local community to ensure that the income from tourism reaches local people. He is an excellent guide and will organise an individual programme to meet your needs - no standard packages. My trip report should explain how he works as does his website. He also uses the income he receives to support the education of local orphans.
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Hello Praveen2011
My knowledge of Corbett, or anywhere else for that matter, is a result of a combination of much time spent there, learning about it, and being generally interested in it.
If you understand something it is easier to learn about it. Also interesting data is so much more easy to store than copy and paste from anothers efforts. Surely you would understand that, having read your account of Kaziranga, and all that deep knowledgeable information you conveyed in another of your postings from only last week.

Or the description of the Taj Mahal in another posting a few days earlier. Both the posts were very informative ? I recommend to everyone to go read them


The question here, I think is,
Are you a travel agent ?
Are you in fact, somehow connected to the corbettnationalpark-india.com travel agency ?
Your previous postings smack of someone trying to create a character for the purpose of spreading the word of an absolutely fabulous agency. Someone who wants others to believe they are knowledgeable, but for why ?

If you have a problem with travel agents, and it seems you do have a problem with me being a travel agent, then why did you use the said company, and then praise them so highly ?
In your previous posting on this thread, you claimed that the agency in question, gave you a better price than anyone else, even better than going in person whilst there, and booking the facilities while you were actually in Corbett.
How can that be ?? Travel agents must add their costs on aswell or they would soon be out of business.

They simply must have charged you more than the resorts were asking for ! Yet that you say, was too much
I think that you are just a littled peeved that I outed the company as not the genuine park website, and you are seeking retribution.

Since my arrival to IM, apart from some fun moments on various other threads, I have only ever promoted Ramesh and his scheme for all the right reasons, I know it to be true that many have visited Corbett with Ramesh, tripsammy being one such character. I have never met tripsammy, but I hope to soon, If there was ever any doubt that the scheme was that of a travel agency she would have let the cat out of the bag, blown the whistle, a long time ago. Her, and many others it has to be said.

But having been there, and seen what happens first hand, she and many more like her, help support, and openly promote the scheme because they believe in it.

I am not a travel agent, but if I were, I'd be a damn good one, and I would certainly provide more than Tiger parks, and the Taj Mahal for destinations
Which incidently Tigersincorbett now does if anyone else is interested. Ranthambore, Bandhavgarh, Kanha, Pench, Panna, Taj Mahal, Bharatpur, Chambal, Sariska,
and I also hear rumblings of Gir.
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