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HI Friends,

I have visited Tadoba 20 times in last 10 years and have done more than 100 safaris. Please let me know if I can help you in any case. I have subscribed to this thread. Will try my best to answer your queries as soon as possible.

IMPORTANT THINGS MUST READ BEFORE PLANNING TADOBA

1) Tadoba is spread over 750 sqkm Jungle. The North end of Tadoba is Kolara and South end of Tadoba is Moharli.

2) If you are staying at the south end of Tadoba then Book for Moharli Gate (Core Area). If Moharli Gate not available then book entry from Agarzari Zone Buffer, Devada Adegaon BUffer, or Junona Zone buffer. DO NOT BOOK KOLARA, NAVEGAO, ALIZANZA IF YOU ARE STAYING IN MOHARLI. it is not possible to reach those gates from Moharli. ZAri Gate possible to reach from Moharli but you will have to hire car to reach Zari Gate in Kolsa. it takes 2 hours to reach Zari gate. (Leave 2 hours early to reach ZAri Gate). You can also book Khutwanda Gate if you are staying near Moharli. It is 20 minutes away from Moharli.

3) Moharli Gate is the main Gate as more Gypsies are allowed from Moharli Gate also the nearby hotels are better.

4) Please remember Tadoba is not a Zoo or Chidiya Ghar so very limited Safari Gypsies are allowed to enter every day. So always Book the Safari Entry tickets first. Rest of the things can be available easily. Also in Tadoba No animals are tied or caged anywhere. sightings of Any Animal including Tiger are purely matter of Luck. No animal Sightings are guaranteed by anyone to anyone. You will see Tiger only if you are lucky. No one can do anything about it.

5) Read about Tadoba on Wikipedia after planning Tadoba Trip. Watch some Tadoba Videos on Youtube So you will enjoy the jungle more.

6) Please do these given below things in sequence when you plan to book Tadoba trip for hassle-free smooth trip.

a) First Go to this site and see if the Tadoba Gate entry Permit is available on the date you want to plan Tadoba Trip. Select the JUngle Tadoba and Select the Date you want to visit Tadoba. The Number indicates the number of Gypsies which are available on that day, Morning and Evening. Full means there are no Gypsies available on that day. Gypsies are limited per day. Look Wisely. it's easy to book. you can accommodate only 6 people in one Gypsy.

b) If the Safari Gypsy permits are available then Book the safari tickets. Make sure you book right tickets on RIGHT DAY like MOrning safari and Evening Safari. Make sure you book a ticket on correct date and morning or evening as per your plan. Add proper information and correct PAN or Aadhar Card Numbers of all people. After booking Ticket make sure you save the PDF of the ticket on PC. You will have to take print out of the same later on.

c) Then Book the Train or Flight tickets to Nagpur or Chandrapur whichever is possible for you. Flight or Train to Nagpur or Some people can go to Chandrapur. Nagpur is 150 Km from Moharli tadoba and Chaandrapur is around 30 km.

d) Book your Hotel. You can PM me for hotel suggestions or check reviews on Tripadvisor for a better hotel.

e) Organise your Transport from Nagpur Railway or Airport to Moharli Tadoba. You can PM me. I will give you my regular drivers.

d) Please take all the printouts with you. Especially the Gate Entry tickets. Make sure you carry the same Pan cards or Aadhar Cards of people with you which you have entered on Safari permit. If any problem in Identity Card number then they will not allow you to get inside Jungle. They match the Identity cards at the gate.

e) Once you reach the Hotel inform the reception about your Safaris. They will call the Gypsy for your safari. Gypsy will come to pick you up at Hotel.

d) Read the given below rules twice and make sure you explain the rules to your co-travelers as well. Tadoba is not Picnic Spot or City Zoo. It is one of the real Jungle so please Respect the Jungle and Wild Animals. Do not try to feed biscuits, wafers to wild animals like people do in all the Zoos. These are wild animals and their body is not designed to digest maida or sugar. Please understand this and explain it to your co-travellers. (Mainly the First Time Jungle visitors)

Talking in Jungle is not allowed and not advisable. In Jungle, there is no noise pollution so even if you talk slowly, your voice can reach a kilometre away and animals have very sharp hearing capabilities. They will immediately run away. By talking in a jungle you can spoil Animal sightings for you as well as for others. for the best sightings, maintain silence and make sure your co-travellers don't make chit chatting noise. Do not throw empty tetra packs, papers, wafer packets, chocolate wrappers in jungle. Make sure the Kids in your Gypsy don't throw any type of trash in the jungle. Put all the trash in your bag and empty it in Hotel dustbin.

Always wear Earth Color or dark green jungle colour clothes. Explain this to your Co-travellers. Strictly Avoid Red Yellow Pink Fancy Fluorescent Colours Clothes. They will send you back to Hotel to change the clothes as your Fluorescent Colours Clothes will disturb animals and animal sightings for other tourists. Animals get scared and run away after they see these Colorful Clothes from far away. So again you will spoil sightings for yourself and for others.

There is lot of dust in the jungle so wear balaclava or scarf and round jungle cap in Jungle. Sunglasses if possible.

Guides are local Gond People who are well trained by Forest Department about the Jungle rules. They try their best to show you the jungle beauty and animals but again its Jungle and nothing is guaranteed. Also please remember if you break any rule in Tadoba, then your Guide and Driver gets banned from their duty for 3 months. So please do not force them to go out of the way or do anything which is not allowed. Getting down in Jungle is strictly prohibited and you might have to pay heavy fines if you break the rule. Forest Guards are everywhere in Jungle.
After you get into the Hotel, it is not advisable to get out after dark. Hotels are always near boundary of the Jungle and Animals do not understand the boundary limits. Sloth Bears, Leopards are very common near the jungle boundary in Tadoba. Please take care of yourself and kids.

Read these attached rules again. And Enjoy the Jungle of Tadoba.

Please feel free to ask any query!

Hope it helps.

Regards

Nitin Ule


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Thank you for your offer, @nitinule.
Tadoba happens to be on my bucket list.
My questions:
  1. What is the total area? What area out of this is allowed for tourists?
  2. are there any routes specified in the permit? (Like in Bhandhavgarh)
  3. what mammals and birds are best sighted?
  4. the best three naturalists? or guides?
  5. could you give a photograph of the gypsy jeep?
  6. what are the stay options?
  7. how many gates are there? or zones? which zone is identified for which mammal/bird?
  8. are private vehicles allowed? petrol or diesel?
  9. is there a forest guest house inside the park? any idea how it is?
  10. are whole day safaris allowed? cost?
  11. are gypsies available for photography? ( where the seats are removed)
  12. best season for sightings?
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[QUOTE=Earthian;1934676]Thank you for your offer, @nitinule.
Tadoba happens to be on my bucket list.
My questions:

[*]What is the total area? What area out of this is allowed for tourists?
Tadoba spread into more than 750 Square KM. It has three major zones 1) Moharli 2) Kolsa 3) Tadoba Andhari. approx 20% area of Moharli and Tadoba are open for tourists but Kolsa is huge jungle. They sometimes open some of the area of Kolsa. No one can cover whole Jungle. Many areas even forest people can not approach.
[*]are there any routes specified in the permit? (Like in Bhandhavgarh)
There are Routes but any permitted area in Jungle is allowed and possible to access from any Gate. So mostly it depends on the latest "movement" of Tigers. But Kolsa is off the road on the south side of the jungle. So if you go to Kolsa then it is not possible to cover the other side of jungle in the same safari.
[*]what mammals and birds are best sighted?
It depends on your luck mainly. I have experienced NO Tiger sightings many times in Jungle but have spotted Tigers next to Hotel. You will basically get to see the animals of typical Tiger Jungle. like Sambhar deer, Spotted deers, Sloth bears, Gaur, many others. Good Birding anytime.
[*]the best three naturalists? or guides?
No one is best there. All the Guides get proper training on Animal behaviour, Habitat, Jungle rules, Animal Birds name, How to handle Picnic type tourists in Jungle and many other things. Again the best guide or driver can not assure you sighting of any animal or bird. But still if you want experienced Guide with you then you can talk to Subhash Guide. he is local guy and Guide over there since 16 years. 8055257451. He has his own Gypsies and Innova as well for Pick Up Drop from Nagpur to Tadoba.
[*]could you give a photograph of the gypsy jeep?
You can see the Gypsy Pic (here). this is Internet image not clicked by Me. All Safari Gypsies look Same. they are open Gypsy.
[*]what are the stay options?
You can stay at MTDC Moharli if it is available. Or there are many Hotels near Moharli gate. But try booking MTDC from MTDC Site fro this site (https://mtdcrrs.maharashtratourism.g...unt/Login.aspx) I have always stayed at MTDC.
[*]how many gates are there? or zones? which zone is identified for which mammal/bird?

There are 6 Gates. Khutwanda, Kolara, Moharli, Navegao, Pangdi, Zari.

My dear friend please understand this is Wild Jungle. Not Zoo where Tiger cage is near gate No. 4 and Elephant is near Gate No.7. .. Animals are not in cage my dear friend. This is pure Wild Jungle totally different than any Animal park. They are "Mukt Janwar" (Free Animals) You can not predict anything or any sightings. I have done 75 trips in Jungle. half of the time I have not even seen a rat also.
Please NOTE: SIGHTING OF ANIMALS IS TOTALLY DEPENDING ON YOUR LUCK. IF YOU ARE LUCKY THEN YOU WILL GET TO SEE THE ANIMALS OR ELSE IT WILL BE JUST A TRIP IN A JUNGLE.

[*]are private vehicles allowed? petrol or diesel?
Private vehicles are allowed in Tadoba. But you have to disconnect HORN connection. Plus you have to pay Jungle charges. Taking Guide in your vehicle is compulsory. Same Jungle rules are applied to Private vehicles as well. Heavy fines if you break any rule like getting down in the jungle, talking loudly or driving faster than 40km/h.
[*]is there a forest guest house inside the park? any idea how it is?
There was forest Guest House near Tadoba lake in the middle of the Jungle. But now it is closed. now all hotels are near safari gates.
[*]are whole day safaris allowed? cost?
Whole day safaris are not allowed for tourists. They are allowed only for National Geographic Channel or Discovery type of Channels. But at a very high cost some 60k per day. for this one need to take permission from Ministry of Forest from Delhi.
[*]are Gipsies available for photography? ( where the seats are removed)
You can do photography from all the Gypsies. All Gypsies are designed for Photography purpose only. All Gypsies are Open. you can ask the Gypsy owner to remove middle row seat if you want to keep Heavy Camera gears over there. They will do it but will charge you for that. Normal safari gypsy can accommodate 6 people only plus one Guide in front seat and a Driver.
[*]best season for sightings?
Like I said Animals are always there but you need to be lucky to see them. So there is noting called best season. Winter is sometimes 8 degree and summer is sometimes 47 degree. Sightings are better in Summer as animals keep coming to a waterhole to drink. In winter Sightings are good as animals walk on the main tar road most of the time as grass is wet because of honeydew. Rain season park is closed for 4 months. but still I would suggest go in Dec Jan Feb. Decent weather to stay there. Animal Sightings are totally depending on your luck.

Please let me know in case of any other queries.

Best regards,

Nitin Ule

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@nitinule
First of all, a big Thank You for the time and trouble taken to clarify the points raised. Very good of you. Appreciate the attitude to ensure that fellow nature enthusiasts have a "road map" so to speak!

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My dear friend please understand this is Wild Jungle. Not Zoo where Tiger cage is near gate No. 4 and Elephant is near Gate No.7. .. Animals are not in cage my dear friend. This is pure Wild Jungle totally different than any Animal park. They are "Mukt Janwar" (Free Animals) You can not predict anything or any sightings. I have done 75 trips in Jungle. half of the time I have not even seen a rat also.
Unquote.

Trying to understand the vagaries of the forest and the animals is huge and complex subject and i confess that i probably have only scratched the surface, at best. However, when i asked you to opine on which animals were identified with which zone ( not gate, as you have (mis)understood), what i meant is= that most animals, especially predators are known to mark their territory and mostly confine themselves to the boundaries defined by them. It is , therefore, not uncommon for a particular animal to be sighted more often in a particular zone. Experienced guides/naturalists of that particular forest, over time, understand this and are able to maximise sightings. This is also seen in birds, both endemic and migratory. I was referring to this behaviour.

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Please NOTE: SIGHTING OF ANIMALS IS TOTALLY DEPENDING ON YOUR LUCK. IF YOU ARE LUCKY THEN YOU WILL GET TO SEE THE ANIMALS OR ELSE IT WILL BE JUST A TRIP IN A JUNGLE.
Unquote.

The only correction i would like to make in your statement is that the forest is an experience in itself. Sightings of animals are welcome, just like a sighting of a bird, or a strangler tree or lichens in all their glory.
Here is a picture from Bhandhavgarh that may please you:
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@Earthian,

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how many gates are there? or zones? which zone is identified for which mammal/bird?
Whole Chandrapur District is same jungle habitat. So if you talk about Sloth Bear, they are present everywhere from Chandrapur buffer to Chimur villages to Kolsa to Kolara. They are found anywhere anytime. Whole jungle is mainly bamboo jungle full of bamboos everywhere. So even you talk about Birds they are everywhere. So didnt understand your question No. 7.

If you would have asked me about Tigers sighted in specific areas or zones then I would have given you list of the main famous tigers which are sighted frequently in some tourist areas. But even these Tigers are sometimes sighted in Buffer area and a week after that they are sighted 30 km away in Core area. So even they cover huge areas

Sonam is a Tigress who has got 3 cubs is sighted at the Telia lake near MTDC Resort. Maya is another tigress who has also got 3 cubs she is often sighted near PandharPauni area. Gabbar is a huge male tiger you can see near Tadoba lake. also Katezari Male near Tadoba lake. There are more than 100 tigers. The jungle is huge but these Tigers are used to Gypsies. Rest of the tigers run away when they see Safari gypsies. You can google Sonam Tadoba or Katezari Male Tadoba and you can have a look at them. They all are magnificent.

I practically go there for a Jungle experience as I love the Sounds of Jungle. Half of the trips I have not even carried any camera or not clicked any single photograph even I have had the best sightings those times.

Your picture is I think Adjutant stork. Sharp & beautiful. You can also see my trip pictures on FB.

regards,

Nitin Ule

These are some of the regular sighted Male Tigers in Tadoba. Image not created by me.
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Thank you, Nitinbhai.
I plan to visit during end of february. Some more questions, if i may:
  1. do we need to get the entry permits beforehand?
  2. safari cost of a jeep is Rs 3000?
  3. weather during end feb?
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[QUOTE=Earthian;1935050]Thank you, Nitinbhai.
I plan to visit during end of february. Some more questions, if i may:[LIST=1]

[*]do we need to get the entry permits beforehand?
Yes off course. There is no Tatkal over there if you want Core Area Gypsy safari.
So first check if the Safari booking is available here.
Book online entries on the day you wish to go. Give all PAN card numbers. Take printout with you. They check pancards over there at the gate for every safari.. So the PAN card number should be entered correctly
Before you pack your bag, you should have
1)Train tickets
2) Confirmation of Tavera or Innova Transport from Nagpur to Tadoba Hotel
3) Printout of Hotel Booking
4) Gypsy Booking Confirmation
5) Safari booking Print out with the same PAN card numbers you have provided for booking.

[*]safari cost of a jeep is Rs 3000?
Now it is 3400 I think.
It includes Gypsy Charges 2000/- Safari charges plus Guide charges 300. On weekends it is little extra.


[*]weather during end feb?
February March are best months to stay there. Full of birding. also good sightings of mammals. If you lucky then you might get to see Tigers meting.
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Thank you for your prompt and detailed reply.
How is the climate during end of feburary? Jacket required?
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Yes.. Must be cold but not 8. Feb end weather must be 20 to 22 in early morning.. Rather than jacket I would suggest take woollen balaclava. Thats enough as weather is cold until 8am only. Later it is pleasant.
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hello nitinule
i made reservations for Tadoba mtdc moharli gate for this march also booked online the safaries but did not yet find the gypsies i read yours and other members posts and got the phone numbers to contact but it is not going easy as i am tourist forgeiner i wander if you or other members have e mails contacts for gipsy owners that i can contact with e mail
also do you know from your experiense that if i will turn up at the resort they will be able to arrange the gipsy on the spot for me without pre arrangment
with thanks
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Originally Posted by dan kaffeman View Post hello nitinule
i made reservations for Tadoba mtdc moharli gate for this march also booked online the safaries but did not yet find the gypsies i read yours and other members posts and got the phone numbers to contact but it is not going easy as i am tourist forgeiner i wander if you or other members have e mails contacts for gipsy owners that i can contact with e mail
also do you know from your experiense that if i will turn up at the resort they will be able to arrange the gipsy on the spot for me without pre arrangment
with thanks
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Hi Dan,

No worries about Gypsies. They allow some 23 Gypsies in the Jungle at a time and there are total 50 Gypsies available at the gate. So getting Gypsy is not a problem. Gypsies are on a Rotation basis so every Gypsy owner should get a chance to rent his Gypsy. Your Safari Entry ticket is most important. They check your identity and you have to present the same what you have mentioned on Ticket. Even if you go at the Jungle entry gate with Ticket print out then you will get Gypsy over there. They will give you Gypsy as per the rotation number.

Subhash has New Gypsies. and He will organise Gypsy for you. Call him at 11.00AM or 6.00PM Indian time. His number is +917447806155


Just in case you want then ask for Guide name Vasant Sonule at the Moharli entry gate. he is very senior experienced Guide over there. (25 years) But main thing is he speaks decent English. He gives little extra information about jungle and habitat but you will like it as you are visiting Tadoba first time.

Any other problem please feel free to contact.

All the best.

Nitin Ule
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Originally Posted by nitinule View Post Hi Dan,

No worries about Gypsies. They allow some 23 Gypsies in the Jungle at a time and there are total 50 Gypsies available at the gate. So getting Gypsy is not a problem. Gypsies are on Rotation basis so every Gypsy owner should get a chance to rent his Gypsy. Your Safari Entey ticket is most important. They check your identity and you have to present the same what you have mentioned on Ticket. Even if you go at the Jungle entry gate with Ticket print out then you will get Gypsy over there. They will give you Gypsy as per the rotation number.

I have given numbers of people who have Gypsies in good or decent maintained conditions. If you go to the gate you will get a Gypsy but you might get an Old Gypsy. So talk to these people for Gypsy. They will guide you. Talk to Nirav as he can speak English. others can't. Niravs nunber is +91 98 50 453078 / +91 90-213-24125. He will guide you. (Nirav = Tadoba Safari <tadobasafari.tigers@gmail.com )

You have booked MTDC Moharli which is the best over there. I have stayed there 10 times. But they do not arrange Gypsy for you. But If you book FDCM Cottages which are next to MTDC, then FDCM allotte a Gypsy for you as FDCM belongs to Forest Department. Tell Gypsy owner about your stay they will come to pick you up at the MTDC. Go half n hour early at the gate.

Just in case you want then ask for Guide name Vasant Sonule at the Moharli entry gate. he is very senior experienced Guide over there. (25 years) But main thing is he speaks decent English. He gives little extra information about jungle and habitat but you will like it as you are visiting Tadoba first time.

Any other problem please feel free to contact.

All the best.

Nitin Ule
Hi Nitin,

I will be visiting Tadoba for the 3rd time 26/03-28/03. Doing a total of 4 safaris. I will be staying at the MTDC as I love the ambience and it's proximity to the buffer zone. On each of my previous two visits. i have seen Sloth Bears just at the gate of the MTDC resort. In fact on my first visit in July 2013, we heard a lot of crashing sound just outside our verandah but couldn't spot any animal. It was also pouring that night. In the morning saw a lot of bear dropping just outside the long common verandah, a few feet from where we were sitting with another couple we had met there. It was an extremely thrilling experience. The second visit we spotted a leopard just 20 feet away but so well camouflaged that until a fellow traveler showed me the leopard on his DSLR screen I was just not able to spot it. We also saw a tiger walk across a field about 500 meters away.

In any case I am writing this time for more info about the FDCM cottages you have mentioned. I have never noticed these. I'd love for you to give more details regarding how to book, the facilities available and on meal options there.

Thanks
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@ Traveller55,

Great .. You are going there in my favourite season. It wont be very hot or very cold. Even I love the MTDC property. lot of people sleep after doing the morning safari but I never sleep, I do lot of Bird photography in MTDC premises. Few years back there were some 12 dogs. Now there is only one. (I hope he is still there) Leopards inside of MTDC property is very common thing. And Sloth Bears come insode MTDC as there are lot of Mahuwa Trees and in March April May Mahuwa trees get flowers. Sloth bears love sweet Mahuwa flowers. So be aware of that. there are compond walls but any animals can come inside as ther are lot of big holes to the wall. you can see it in the day time.

I think you must be staying in one of these rooms.

YOu can book FDCM Cottages from site. They have 3 AC rooms which are next to MTDC. I have stayed in tents. (Now Closed) Cheap and clean but they have Indian toilets. Jungle Rats and other small reptiles are common but you can sleep on the Bed in the tent. and according to the staff over there Rats and reptiles have never climbed on any Guest's bed yet. So you can trust them :-D ... Tents doors have chain lock and were not getting locked at all so whole night we were actually OPEN to welcome any size animal in our tent. ;-)


All the best

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All Information / Answers on Tadoba.

Thanks so much. Yes MTDC is truly awesome. We had stayed in that facility that is in your image and that's the verandah outside which the sloth bear was foraging, unknown to us. What I find unique of the place is that the vibe of the jungle is so palpable. It has the sense of menace that reminds you to not do anything very stupid while there.
I will look up the FDCM cottages for the next time.
Thanks again
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