will I be allowed to board - I booked a longer journey?

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I want to travel from Jhansi to Agra on Sun 7th November on the shatadbi express (2001).

The only way I could find available tickets was to book a longer journey in two parts. So I have
o A ticket from Bhopal to Gwalior
o A ticket from Gwalior to Agra.
Bhopal is the stop before Jhansi but it is a long way away.

Does anyone have any experience about whether I will be allowed to board at Jhansi with my ticket from Bhopal?

I also bought a direct waitlisted ticket Jhansi to Agra but I am WL43 so I guess a slim chance of boarding.

Many Thanks
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I don't see why not, really. Could be the TTE (ticket examiner) gives that seat away noticing there's no one to claim it; but I imagine there'd be no problem in claiming it back once you get on board.

Don't take my word for it though; hopefully someone else here will have a definite answer.
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You have to inform the Starting Station (Bhopal in this case) 72 hrs before that you will be boarding at Jhansi. Otherwise you will lose your claim on the seat and the TTE can allot it to someone else. Details are given on the Indian Railways website
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Have a look at the thread Information regarding change of boarding point, also Boarding at diferent station but same ticket!
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Quick, and I mean NOW...........before you drink your coffee.

book the following train, though don't cancel your tickets till you have confirmed tickets.

Train 2001B departs Jhansi on the 7th at 17:15 and gets to Agra Cant at 19:45, it's a 'special' (to clear rush of extra passengers), there is availability in both classes, but only a few left.

BOOK NOW, and you can book Jhansi to Agra
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No need to inform TTE and other Bullsh*t.

Travel on the seat alloted to you till Gwalior.

Then vacate the seat and go to the seat thats alloted to you and sit there.
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alicerobson

Bhopal to Jhansi is around 4-5 hrs journey and if you will not board your train from Bhopal, it will get cancelled. Go to your nearest booking station and manually get your boarding point changes to Jhansi.
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Originally Posted by isacoyd View Post You have to inform the Starting Station (Bhopal in this case) 72 hrs before that you will be boarding at Jhansi. Otherwise you will lose your claim on the seat and the TTE can allot it to someone else. Details are given on the Indian Railways website
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Originally Posted by mahokejriwal View Post alicerobson

Bhopal to Jhansi is around 4-5 hrs journey and if you will not board your train from Bhopal, it will get cancelled. Go to your nearest booking station and manually get your boarding point changes to Jhansi.
Oki, thanks guys, I wasn't aware of this. Will keep it in mind for giving future advice.

(btw And come to think of it, Jhansi-Gwalior isn't at all far, no?* Should be around 1-1.5 hours by train, 2 max. I think I'd have jumped on in Unreserved for it -- or in Sleeper, and see if I get sent away to Unreserved, aka ask the TTE if he can kindly upgrade you if he comes to ask --, or catch a bus perhaps for that leg. But, to each their own, certainly.)

* And then come to think of it, neither is Gwalior-Agra Around 1.5-3 hours again, it seems. So you could try the same approach (best to do this on daytime trains, you don't wanna be stuck without a seat by night, and there'll be less leeway to allow you to sit in Sleeper without a reservation) going straight from Jhansi to Agra, preferably on a fast train. From what I see at http://erail.in?T=JHS::AGA:, the straight journey should be just 2.5-3.5 hours, barring a few slow trains. But try Steve's solution first, if it's not too late.

Note this approach won't work on classy trains like Shatabdis, btw, which have no Unreserved classes anyway. You'll need a regular Express or Mail train for it. And note you do need a regular Unreserved ticket, purchased at the station, to be allowed to board at all. (A waitlisted ticket does not allow you to board!)

One risk arguably could be that if all the trains are booked full and special trains are being deployed even (what's the occasion, that time of year? Diwali or so?), there's a very good chance Unreserved class will be packed out. But, hey, for the few hours... Well, it can be madness. In that case, I'd rather catch me a bus (or taxi...) to Gwalior I guess, and use that reserved ticket Gwalior-Agra. Probably the most painless solution, if Steve's doesn't work. Or if you can't change your boarding station like you plan to, that is.
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@Alice - the TTF reserves the right to give your seat to RAC/Waitlisted passengers on account of "NO SHOW" so don't count on your seat being reserved till Jhansi. you have got to inform in writing about your change in boarding station. If you require any further help let me know ..have contacts in railways who maybe able to help you.
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Thanks for all the helpful suggestions.

I will aim to change my boarding point as several of you have suggested. Does anyone know if I would be able to change my boarding point at Jhansi station ( a few days before). I won't be in Bhopal so can't get to the ticket office there. I could also probably get to other bigger stations such as Mumbai or Indore if that would work.

Much appreciated
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rules

the applicable rules -
CHANGE OF BOARDING POINT :
If a passenger desires to occupy reserved accommodation from any station enroute, he would be permitted to entrain at any intermediate station he chooses irrespective of the distance from the starting station subject to the following conditions :

1. A specific request must be made in writing at the station from where the ticket is purchased and reservation made atleast 24 hours before the scheduled departure of the train from the starting station.
2. The Railway Administration reserves the right to use such accommodation from the originating station up to the station at which the passenger is due to entrain.
3. No refund will be permissible for the portion of journey not performed by the passenger.
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Originally Posted by alicerobson View Post Thanks for all the helpful suggestions.

I will aim to change my boarding point as several of you have suggested. Does anyone know if I would be able to change my boarding point at Jhansi station ( a few days before). I won't be in Bhopal so can't get to the ticket office there. I could also probably get to other bigger stations such as Mumbai or Indore if that would work.

Much appreciated
Alice
You're certainly ready for India, why take the easy option when there is a more difficult, more expensive, and more inconvenient option.

You should book the other train. (there is still availability).

Jhansi to Agra = ECC - Rs730, CC - Rs354

Bhopal-Gwalior-Agra = ECC - 980 + 615 = Rs1595, CC - 510 + 330 = Rs840

I think the big difference is due to distance restrictions that mean you pay big amounts for short distance travel, also, 2 tickets is always more expensive that 1.
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Hi Steven
I haven't booked the earlier journey that was suggested because I will not be there in time to get on! I will be catching a bus from Khajuraho that connects with the 17.55 train - so I would likely miss the 17.15 train. I can't leave earlier from Khajuraho because in fact we will be in Panna and I hope to do a morning safari before catching the bus (ok, ambitious). I did spot this option myself but decided it would not work. Pity though.

Anyway, no harm I guess in trying at other stations to change the board point. If that fails I can still cancel the ticket. I booked a cheap emergency ticket early the next morning just in case so I have a fall back.
Thanks again for all the info
Alice
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I am now back from my travels - so I have the answer to my own question having tried it out.

The plan worked. It was straightforward to change the boarding point at the railway station. I changed the boarding point at Mumbai station ie nowhere near the places on train journey in question. Hence it is not necessary to be at the start point of the trip to change the boarding point. There was a nice form to fill in, after which the clerk changed it online and it worked just fine.

Happy travels
Alice
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Good to know. Thanks for the feedback.

Happy happy (& Good luck with the settling back into daily life, if that's what you're doing. May take a bit; don't worry, it will happen.)

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