Side berths on the Mangla Lakshadweep Express

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#1 Mar 22nd, 2011, 10:32
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My fiance and myself are travelling from Panvel to Kozhikode on the Mangla Lakshadweep Express (June 16th).

It is a trip we are very eagerly anticipating and we have been trying to book side upper and lower berth seats since the day online ticketing opened, but have thus far been unable to secure seats, even though we are booking 3 months in advance. We have currently got seats 19 & 20 (inside berths). Are side berths that difficult to get and is there any way of securing side berths for this trip?

I have also previously read that train has decent food options, is that still the case? I was a bit concerned when I went onto the indian rail info site and discovered the quote: "Food/Catering: Yes - Bad Food"

Any thoughts and feedback on this journey would be really appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help

Also wanted to say that I absolutely love this website, incredibly useful.
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Hey CK,
It is not at all any difficult to procure, side lower and upper berth in Indian Railways. I always prefer to side lower berth and always got one.
Dont know in your case and that too booking so much early you are not able to get one side lower and upper birth.
While you book your ticket you need to mention it in your preference as your choice of side lower and upper, you did it?
If you fail to do so the computer tends to give you the main berth not the side berth. Any of the six main berth in continuation if possible and avoid giving you the side berth. Side berth are last to be allotted and some are reserved for the RAC class to be shared by two passengers who just moved from wait list to RAC list before their reservation is confirmed.
If you failed to mention it while booking then just try to book again, may be you can get side lower and upper berth, and then get the earlier ticket canceled, going to cost you a bit, but worth doing so to get the required seating arrangment, if you already mentioned it while booking, then no need to do it all again.
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you are lucky to get those berths .

getting confirmed seats in "middle of great indian summer" is very difficult . as many indians go/return from vacation during summer month .
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Hi poisonspy, thanks for your reply, my fiance definitely specified side upper and side lower berth. We also got her sister to try and she was also unable to get side berths. I am going to try and get my cousins in India to visit the train station and see if booking at the counters makes a difference.

Railfanatic, yeah we dont want to be too ungrateful either, we just preferred the privacy of the sideberths.
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hey ck11

once you get in train , try talking with someone who has side berths . they will most probably exchange it for inside berths
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Yeah, that was something I considered as well, thanks.
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Originally Posted by ck11 View Post My fiance and myself are travelling from Panvel to Kozhikode on the Mangla Lakshadweep Express (June 16th).

It is a trip we are very eagerly anticipating and we have been trying to book side upper and lower berth seats since the day online ticketing opened, but have thus far been unable to secure seats, even though we are booking 3 months in advance. We have currently got seats 19 & 20 (inside berths). Are side berths that difficult to get and is there any way of securing side berths for this trip?

I have also previously read that train has decent food options, is that still the case? I was a bit concerned when I went onto the indian rail info site and discovered the quote: "Food/Catering: Yes - Bad Food"

Any thoughts and feedback on this journey would be really appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help

Also wanted to say that I absolutely love this website, incredibly useful.
Easiest thing for you to do is to send someone to the PRS Counter and book it from there stating your desired option for berth/s.
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Originally Posted by Railfanatic View Post hey ck11

once you get in train , try talking with someone who has side berths . they will most probably exchange it for inside berths
You don't mention the class.

There is a chance that seats earmarked for Panvel-Kozhikode don't include side berths, so you may not be able to get them no matter how many ways you try.

Be careful about swapping seats, many side berths (in 3A & SL) have the lower berth kept for RAC passengers (this is another reason why side berths may not be used for some booking sectors), so there could be 3 people in those 2 berths, if there are only 2 persons booked into the side berths, find out where they're traveling to, if only Goa (for example) there could be other people booked in those side berths from Goa, also mention that you are only booked till Kozhikode, if they're going all the way to Cochin they may not want to swap knowing they may have to swap again if more people are booked in your berths from Kozhikode.

All in all, side berths are only really worth fighting for in Sleeper Class, and up to 6 of the 9 sets of side berths in Sleeper Class have the lower berth used for RAC.
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Originally Posted by steven_ber View Post You don't mention the class.

There is a chance that seats earmarked for Panvel-Kozhikode don't include side berths, so you may not be able to get them no matter how many ways you try.

Be careful about swapping seats, many side berths (in 3A & SL) have the lower berth kept for RAC passengers (this is another reason why side berths may not be used for some booking sectors), so there could be 3 people in those 2 berths, if there are only 2 persons booked into the side berths, find out where they're traveling to, if only Goa (for example) there could be other people booked in those side berths from Goa, also mention that you are only booked till Kozhikode, if they're going all the way to Cochin they may not want to swap knowing they may have to swap again if more people are booked in your berths from Kozhikode.

All in all, side berths are only really worth fighting for in Sleeper Class, and up to 6 of the 9 sets of side berths in Sleeper Class have the lower berth used for RAC.
Not every SLB is meant for RAC Passengers. The easiest way to calculate would be to observe 2-3 days charting status, if the last status before charting says RAC 110 and then the chart gets prepared, you can assume some of the RAC pax gettin confirmed, some havin cancelled their ticket, and some still remainin in RAC (say 64).
Then you get the information for no. of coaches for that particular classes say 4.
So no. of rac pax per coach = 64/4 = 16.
So no. of slb reserved for rac pax = 16/2 = 8.

However this no can vary from day to day - class to class - train to train - quota to quota
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Originally Posted by steven_ber View Post Be careful about swapping seats, many side berths (in 3A & SL) have the lower berth kept for RAC passengers ..... and up to 6 of the 9 sets of side berths in Sleeper Class have the lower berth used for RAC.
I think Steven meant the same thing in simpler terms.
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Thanks for the replies thus far, trust me to forget the obvious, the class is 2-tier AC.

Steven good point regarding swapping seats, might just see if I can get someone to go to the counters.
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You do not need some one to go to the counter to request for swapping seats. You can do that in the train itself.
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Hey CK,
If you mentioned side lower berth while booking then i dont think getting it done from the counter will make any difference, as the computer is the same giving you booking be it online or through counter.
Now as told to you the only option left for you is to swap berth with person having the side lower and upper berths. And really people are reluctant to swap their berth for side lower and upper ones.
Just one thing can be done and this is when you are onboard. Just request the TTE of your coach and request him so that he can adjust the RAC passengers to your original berth and then allot you the side lower and upper berth meant for RAC passengers
Best of luck
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Poisonspy, thanks for the tip. I will try that option on the train.
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Originally Posted by Poisonspy View Post Hey CK,
If you mentioned side lower berth while booking then i dont think getting it done from the counter will make any difference, as the computer is the same giving you booking be it online or through counter.
Now as told to you the only option left for you is to swap berth with person having the side lower and upper berths. And really people are reluctant to swap their berth for side lower and upper ones.
Just one thing can be done and this is when you are onboard. Just request the TTE of your coach and request him so that he can adjust the RAC passengers to your original berth and then allot you the side lower and upper berth meant for RAC passengers
Best of luck
"and then allot you the side lower and upper berth meant for RAC passengers"

No Upper/Side upper berth is ever kept for RAC Passengers.
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