RAC in 2A - an atypical experience

#1 Feb 24th, 2012, 20:11
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I understand that 2A has 4 berths allotted for RAC quota.
However, some trains have 2A-3A combined coached (usually marked as AB1). It usually has 24 berths of 2A & 32 berths of 3A.
The train I booked for my wife recently was 12896 with has 1 such coach, besides one 3A coach (marked as B1).

I would have expected that a train with only 1/2 2A coach should have only 2 berths allotted for RAC quota, but surprisingly, this one had 4 RAC bookings (I know this as when I booked I got WL1 & after a few hours, the status showed RAC4). Is this normal, or IR has just found a way to make more money by flouting their own rules?

Also, I understood that RAC in 2A is usually allotted inside lower berths. Since my wife was travelling with a child, I thought this would be more convenient (compared to RAC in 3A - which gets the side lower berth), even if it remains RAC at the last minute.

As luck would have it, she was RAC at chart preparation & was allotted RAB17 - which was side lower berth. Another lady was also allotted the same berth (else I would have cancelled the trip). Is this normal, or decided by Station Masters at their discretion at chart preparation?

Any advice would be much helpful to understand if I should take this risk going forward. Thanks in advance.
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This is normal as the software is designed to allot two passengers on each side lower berth. However, there is always greater chance of getting a full berth during the travel due to further cancellation of the booking!
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Thumbs down I'm not so sure about this...

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Originally Posted by Prakaant View Post This is normal as the software is designed to allot two passengers on each side lower berth. However, there is always greater chance of getting a full berth during the travel due to further cancellation of the booking!
I understand this is the norm for 3A RAC, and 2A RAC is different!
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Few days back there was a discussion here wherein the senior members were trying to speculate about the RAC Allocation in the composite coaches; especially in HA Coach. VSP Sir had remarked that HA Coach would not have any RAC Passenger to which I had objected since while predicting and marking the final stamps for PNR's in another website I did see RAC PNR's for HA and AB Coaches.
In fact today itself I saw a RAC Passenger for 12164 given at berth no. 17 in HA Coach. I was first under the impression that being a 2A Coach, berth 17 has to be a LB and thus it makes 1 and 2 being separated out in a single coupe.
Now as per your description it seems, RAC passengers are allotted SLB's in HA Coach (Usually 5 and/or 11 and/or 17) and for AB Coach they are (5 and/or 11 and/or 17 and/or 23)

CC @ VSP Sir.
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What's this CC for?
You know he won't get notified about this post don't you?
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Intelligent thinking!!
I have already sent him a private message regarding the same.
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Originally Posted by dipyamanbasu View Post Intelligent thinking!!
I have already sent him a private message regarding the same.
If you sent him a PM then what's the purpose of the CC? I'm not criticising I just don't understand.
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I felt like adding one more line to my post..
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Originally Posted by dipyamanbasu View Post I felt like adding one more line to my post..
And that was your intelligent thinking?
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Mr.Iyer had stated that As luck would have it, she was RAC at chart preparation & was allotted RAB17 - which was side lower berth.
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If you come across a live PNR about RAC in HA1, please do let me know.
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Ha

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Originally Posted by dipyamanbasu View Post I was first under the impression that being a 2A Coach, berth 17 has to be a LB and thus it makes 1 and 2 being separated out in a single coupe.
In all the HA coaches I have traveled till date, 1-18 are the regular berths & 19/20, sharing the wall with 1A cabin C, is the one LB/UB that makes a coupe - but with a curtain & not a door! (I still recall cursing my luck at having to cancel a journey where I got this lucky slot with my wife...)
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Originally Posted by dipyamanbasu View Post especially in HA Coach. VSP Sir had remarked that HA Coach would not have any RAC Passenger to which I had objected
I would have to agree with you on this one...
Train 12838 has HA1,HA2,A1,A2 coaches. As per RAC quota of 4 berths each for A1/A2, one should not have more than RAC8 in this train. However, I just noted RAC11 for today's journey. Which certainly indicates that HA coaches would have to bear with their share of RAC in 2A as well.
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Originally Posted by vsp27759 View Post Mr.Iyer had stated that As luck would have it, she was RAC at chart preparation & was allotted RAB17 - which was side lower berth.
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If you come across a live PNR about RAC in HA1, please do let me know.
We shouldn't doubt the comments made by our esteemed bloggers.
In any case, I find more interest in dealing with DEAD PNR's. I would however try and get back to you with a LIVE one as soon as I encounter the same.
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Originally Posted by paramiyer View Post In all the HA coaches I have traveled till date, 1-18 are the regular berths & 19/20, sharing the wall with 1A cabin C, is the one LB/UB that makes a coupe - but with a curtain & not a door! (I still recall cursing my luck at having to cancel a journey where I got this lucky slot with my wife...)
There exists two type of layouts for HA Coach.
One the way you stated and another where you have berth 1 and 2 in a single coupe and the rest would follow.
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Originally Posted by paramiyer View Post Train 12838 has HA1,HA2,A1,A2 coaches. As per RAC quota of 4 berths each for A1/A2, one should not have more than RAC8 in this train. However, I just noted RAC11 for today's journey. Which certainly indicates that HA coaches would have to bear with their share of RAC in 2A as well.
Two days back, I noted RAC16 as the status. This means that IR is holding 4 berths in each 2A coach, irrespective of whether it is full 2AC or half 2AC (with 1A). That just seems like a legit fraud by IR. It also reinforces the possibility of RAC in 2A within a HA coach...

On the same lines, I understand tatkal quota is 4 berths for 2A & 6 berths for 3A (or is this info outdated?), but one can see 26 berths for 2A in tatkal, which just doesn't add up!

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