Post your waitlist questions here ONLY

#1 Sep 14th, 2005, 18:12
Join Date:
Sep 2005
Location:
White Plains, New York
Posts:
3,948
  • nadreg is offline
#1
This discussion thread is meant for Waitlist questions for the Indian Railways. If you do not know the meaning of Waitlist for Indian Trains, then please read this article that describes the concepts of Wait Lists (WL) and Reservations Against Cancellation (RAC).

Also, when requesting information on this thread, please post the following details of your travel:
  • Train Number
  • Date of Travel
  • Class of Travel
  • Departure Station
  • Destination Station
  • WL Status at booking
  • WL Status Current

If you know your PNR you can use this site to check your current status. http://www.indianrail.gov.in/pnr_Enq.html
Last edited by Dave W; Dec 27th, 2013 at 14:15.. Reason: PNR link added.
#14071 Dec 10th, 2017, 12:07
Join Date:
Jan 2017
Location:
UK
Posts:
237
  • Newworld is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by spetnsnaz View Post I have booked hotels and return ticket but could not book an confirm ticket.. waitlisted ticket. Any chances of confirmation? Its kind of urgency.. your help will really be appriciated. My pnr is <edited>... booking status 83/GNWL and 84/GNWL.. current status is wL24 &25 respectively. Travel date is 29/12/17 from hazrat nizamuddin to madgaon.

Thank you in advance.

Train number?
Class?

This super cautious approach on indiamike regarding PNR numbers could maybe be extended, perhaps an automatic reply in all threads about flying warning of the dangers, or a similar warning in rail threads about Indian Railways poor safety standards.
#14072 Dec 10th, 2017, 13:09
Join Date:
Dec 2017
Location:
New delhi
Posts:
16
  • spetnsnaz is offline
Lets see.. fingers crossed. No change in status yet.
#14073 Dec 10th, 2017, 13:16
Join Date:
Dec 2017
Location:
New delhi
Posts:
16
  • spetnsnaz is offline
Train: 22414 NZM MAO RAJ.
Date of travel: 29/12/17
Class 3A.
From NZM To Mao.
Booking status: GNWL83, GNWL84.
Current status: GNWL24, GNWL25.
#14074 Dec 10th, 2017, 13:22
Learning... from others' experiences!
Join Date:
Sep 2011
Location:
India
Posts:
13,030
  • Prakaant is offline
Status will change once tickets start getting cancelled. As it would be high season for Goal, there are 100% chances of entry into RAC.
#14075 Dec 10th, 2017, 13:38
Join Date:
Jan 2017
Location:
UK
Posts:
237
  • Newworld is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by spetnsnaz View Post Train: 22414 NZM MAO RAJ.
Date of travel: 29/12/17
Class 3A.
From NZM To Mao.
Booking status: GNWL83, GNWL84.
Current status: GNWL24, GNWL25.
As there's 9 x 3A carriages, that's a hell of a lot of RAC places to get through (can be 10-12 RAC places per carriage), and this is a Friday departure that will get to Goa in time for New Years Eve, so cancellations will be limited, but on the plus side, the HO quota will come into play (much less likely if the train was going on to Kerala), there's also a very small chance an extra carriage could be added to the train.

All in all though, Prakaant is right, RAC is very likely, but confirmed is very unlikely, RAC moving into confirmed berths on the train is hit and miss on a popular train, with 9 carriages, RAC 1 - 18 gets you the first RAC places in each carriage, and a great chance of being moved into confirmed berths, RAC 19-36 also has a reasonable chance, but such is the system, it's possible for RAC 1 to remain RAC for the whole journey (every passenger turns up in that carriage), and RAC 72 to move into a confirmed berth at NZM (4 passengers fail to show in that carriage).

See if there's any improvement by 27th, then maybe consider Tatkal.

Good luck.
#14076 Dec 10th, 2017, 19:53
Join Date:
Dec 2017
Location:
New delhi
Posts:
16
  • spetnsnaz is offline
That is what i am thinking. Tatkal is my only option as flight fares are sky rocketing. I will wait till 27th of dec. i will keep updating the status. Thanks for your valuable analysis. It will help me a lot.
#14077 Dec 13th, 2017, 02:00
Join Date:
Oct 2017
Location:
London
Posts:
6
  • PhilinIndia is offline
#14077

Chances to confirm....

Hi all,

Trying to figure out my chances to receive confirmations for my Ajmer to Haridwar trip (I actually ended up buying two sets of tickets, as was concerned my chances are slim). If my chances are decent, I'd consider cancelling one of the below:

Option 1:
Ajmer Jn - Haridwar Jn
Train: Aii Hw Exp
Date: 23 Dec
Class: AC2 Tier
RLWL3 and RLWL4

Option 2:
Ajmer Jn - Haridwar Jn
Train: Haridwar Mail (19031)
Date: 23 Dec
Class: First AC
RLWL1 and RLWL2

Thank you for your help!
#14078 Dec 13th, 2017, 05:09
Learning... from others' experiences!
Join Date:
Sep 2011
Location:
India
Posts:
13,030
  • Prakaant is offline
Both the options seem to have good chances. I would have opted for first one as it stands better chances.
#14079 Dec 13th, 2017, 13:05
Join Date:
Jan 2017
Location:
UK
Posts:
237
  • Newworld is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilinIndia View Post Hi all,

Trying to figure out my chances to receive confirmations for my Ajmer to Haridwar trip (I actually ended up buying two sets of tickets, as was concerned my chances are slim). If my chances are decent, I'd consider cancelling one of the below:

Option 1:
Ajmer Jn - Haridwar Jn
Train: Aii Hw Exp
Date: 23 Dec
Class: AC2 Tier
RLWL3 and RLWL4

Option 2:
Ajmer Jn - Haridwar Jn
Train: Haridwar Mail (19031)
Date: 23 Dec
Class: First AC
RLWL1 and RLWL2

Thank you for your help!
I'd be slightly more confident about the 2A ticket, but still a bit worried.

The 1A ticket is simple, you need the people holding the 2 confirmed tickets to cancel, there's very little chance of any other way for your tickets to get confirmed, and given the date of travel, I'd say chances of cancellations are slim.

The problem with the 2A ticket is the 'RL', it stands for remote location (waitlist), the train starts from Udaipur, so Udaipur (and the stations close to it) get the general quota, and the control of the HO quota.

The HO is like an emergency quota, when the reservation chart is prepared (a few hours before the train departs Udaipur), any reservation quota berths that remain unsold (usually a few HO quota) are used to reduce the General waitlist (GNWL), this is the main reason why GNWL is far more likely to reduce in the final few hours, any vacant berths are then put back on sale up till 30 minutes before the train departs, and only then are any vacant berths passed down the line to the Ajmer RLWL, so in theory, GNWL 22 has a better chance of getting confirmed than RLWL 3 (unless there's cancellations from the RL quota).

With this in mind, if you look again at train 19609, then book from Mavli Jn to Haridwar, then change the boarding station to Ajmer, you can get RAC 3 & 4, this is as close to confirmed berths as you can get, almost guaranteed.

Likewise, train 19031, book from Palanpur Jn to Haridwar, then change boarding station to Ajmer, in 1A there are berth(s) available, at the very least 1, maybe 2 or more, even if you get 1 confirmed berth and GNWL1, you have about a 90% chance the GNWL1 will get confirmed.
#14080 Dec 13th, 2017, 14:14
Join Date:
Oct 2017
Location:
London
Posts:
6
  • PhilinIndia is offline
Newworld - thank you so much for these suggestions: smart!

What is the process for changing the starting station of trains? If I book on cleartrip can I make the change online, or would I need to go the station to make the change on the day?

Many thanks,

Phil
#14081 Dec 13th, 2017, 14:32
Join Date:
Jan 2017
Location:
UK
Posts:
237
  • Newworld is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilinIndia View Post Newworld - thank you so much for these suggestions: smart!

What is the process for changing the starting station of trains? If I book on cleartrip can I make the change online, or would I need to go the station to make the change on the day?

Many thanks,

Phil
I haven't used cleartrip in years, they didn't used to allow a change of boarding station whilst booking (they would give the availability from the boarding station, making it a waste of time).

Do an availability search from Ajmer, note the number, then do an availability search from Mavli/Palanpur (note the number), then look for the boarding station section and change boarding station to Ajmer, they will then give an availability number, if you then get the availability number for Mavli/Palanpur, then book, if not, purchase a ticket from Mavli/Palanpur, then afterwards, go to IRCTC website and change the boarding station.

We can now book direct using IRCTC (and easily change boarding point), but I'm not sure if we need to make any changes (telephone number etc., always a pain to do), so if you can easily book with cleartrip, you may be best to stick with that.
#14082 Dec 14th, 2017, 13:54
Join Date:
Oct 2017
Location:
London
Posts:
6
  • PhilinIndia is offline
Thanks Newworld again. I decided to go with the option of booking from Palanpur, and then changing the boarding station to Ajmer. That all seems to have worked, but then in checking on trainpnrstatus.com (just to double check that the change of boarding station has been made), I see that the "Booking Status" is WL/4/GN and WL/5/GN. Although the current status is CFN.

Just want to be 100% sure that the booking status is not something to be concerned about?

Thanks for your help again!
#14083 Dec 14th, 2017, 15:34
Learning... from others' experiences!
Join Date:
Sep 2011
Location:
India
Posts:
13,030
  • Prakaant is offline
CNF means Confirmed. It means the status is confirmed. You need not worry now.
#14084 Dec 14th, 2017, 21:06
Join Date:
Jan 2017
Location:
UK
Posts:
237
  • Newworld is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilinIndia View Post Thanks Newworld again. I decided to go with the option of booking from Palanpur, and then changing the boarding station to Ajmer. That all seems to have worked, but then in checking on trainpnrstatus.com (just to double check that the change of boarding station has been made), I see that the "Booking Status" is WL/4/GN and WL/5/GN. Although the current status is CFN.

Just want to be 100% sure that the booking status is not something to be concerned about?
We're not given seat & berth details in 1A, they're decided when the reservation chart is prepared, so all we see in CNF.

In this case you were the 4th and 5th persons to join the waitlist, but because there'd already been enough cancellations, you now have confirmed tickets.

Are both tickets confirmed?

The status had shown GNWL/AVL, but there was no way of knowing how many berths were available.
#14085 Dec 21st, 2017, 16:59
Join Date:
Dec 2017
Location:
Madras
Posts:
9
  • S.Chandru is offline
#14085

Train to Kalyan (Mumbai)

Hi, please suggest whether to opt for Tatkal or the existing booking would be confirmed.

Train Number: 12164
Date of Travel: 23rd Dec'17
Class of Travel: 2A
Departure Station: Chennai Egmore
Destination Station: Kalyan
WL Status at booking: 25, 26, 27
WL Status Current: 7, 8, 9
Reply

Similar Threads

Title, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views Forum
Difference between General Waitlist and Tatkal Waitlist May 19th, 2015 22:13 18 164318 Indian Railways
General:Waitlist(19) and Tatkal:Waitlist(1)? Nov 6th, 2011 13:22 5 10679 Goa


Posting Rules

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Forum Rules»
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.3.2
© IndiaMike.com 2018
Page Load Success