Police hassle on night train.

#1 Feb 22nd, 2011, 21:22
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On the Mandor Express from Delhi to Jodhpur, it was four of us (foreigners) in one cabin in First Class. The train manager had already been round to check the tickets. Two hours into the journey, with the door locked and the curtains drawn we were drinking red wine from IRCTC cups.

There was a knock on the door and we opened to let in a man who looked a little bit official. He smiled, said hello and shook everyone's hand. He pointed at a suitcase on the floor and said "check" which I assume meant he wanted to check the contents. At that point he caught sight of a wine cup. The smile faded from his face and, pointing at the cup, he started talking very quickly in Hindi. He seemed to be getting angry. As many times as I explained calmly that I only speak English this made no difference. He carried on in Hindi getting angrier and more aggressive in his manner. The only words I understood were "five hundred dollar".

Thankfully we had previously befriended an Indian gentleman who was in the cabin next door. We knocked and knocked until we woke up the whole cabin. Our friend came out and asked what was the matter. By the time we explained the policeman had slipped away and was gone.

Our friend spent 5 minutes shouting at the train staff (who spoke no English and did not get involved) then assured us that he had sorted the matter out and the policeman would not return.

I'd be interested to know ...
Had we actually broken any law by drinking wine on a train?
What would have happened had our friend not intervened?
What is the proper way to deal with corrupt policemen who demand money?

Has anyone had a similar experience? Is this a common occurrence on Indian trains?
#2 Feb 22nd, 2011, 21:42
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Dear Friend


I feel sorry for you in the name of more than 120 crores of Indians those who are innocent.
The guy who disturbed you doesnt belong to our culture.

Kindly notice, "Consumption of ALCOHOL is prohibited in trains"

Regards
Sree
#3 Feb 22nd, 2011, 22:02
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Had we actually broken any law by drinking wine on a train?
What would have happened had our friend not intervened?
What is the proper way to deal with corrupt policemen who demand money?
Yes, drinking alcohol is prohibited.
Generally a stiff fine/bribe. But if he is either a railway official or railway police/Govt Railway police.
Ask to see the TTE and if have to pay a fine, will pay only with receipt. That will shut up most of them.

But the best way is to not break the law by being aware of it.
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Ah ok ... So technically we *had* broken the law. I inquired about this but was told that so long as nobody in the cabin objects it is fine to drink alcohol. I guess that is the norm but not the law?
#5 Feb 22nd, 2011, 22:14
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Remember that there are states in India where it is not legal to drink alcohol at all, and others where it is very restricted. Not something one can apply "normal British" social norms to. Best not to put people in a situation where they need to object, or feel that they should not. Just because a person doesn't say anything doesn't mean they don't mind.
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narendra.d is right.drinking alcohol is prohibited on indian railways.Sad.
.it has nothing to do with a copassenger objecting or not objecting
rgds
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Several years back I was traveling from Chennai to Kolkata in 2nd sleeper. With 2 Indians in compartment and after some time of talking to each other I pulled bottle of rum and they happily joined me. So we were drinking and than 2 policeman appeared. We were at that moment in Andra Pradesh and my understanding was that there they were more strict. So to cut long story short Indians were ordered to get out and folow them while nobody talkked to me. They returned after 15 minutes of negotiations and 700 rupees lighter. I gave them my third of money and we continued to drink first and than 2nd bottle.Had a good time,got drumk , felt to sleep.
That was it.
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Drank a large bottle of whiskey on the train with a policeman once, about 15 years ago though.I came to with the most raging thirst for water and all there was to drink was some dodgy,slightly brown, village water he had but i had no choice but to drink it the thirst was so great.Needless to say i soon regretted it.Haven't done it since!
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Then I guess that when I asked I was told what I wanted to hear. Note to self: ask more than one person. Don't ask questions where the answer you are looking for is inside the question.
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Mr HKer and I like to have a chota peg (yes, I know, I watch too much Jewel in the Crown!) of whisky as a nightcap on overnight train journeys, but we are very discreet! This is one advantage of the side berths in 2AC. We both sit on the made-up bed of the lower berth with the curtains closed, and drink a couple of small tots out of those little white plastic chai cups. Never had any problems.
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hongkonger
moral of the story is
dont get caught
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#12 Feb 26th, 2011, 01:49
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Originally Posted by faustus77 View Post narendra.d is right.drinking alcohol is prohibited on indian railways.Sad.
As it is on Indian domestic flights.. go figure...
#13 Feb 26th, 2011, 14:45
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The wonderful thing about travel is that you learn that everything is NOT different, but the SAME. Corrupt policemen (a redundancy) demand money the world over. In the U.S., the police issue parking and speeding tickets not because you are engaging in a harmful activity, but because the police want to supplement their budgets.
In a foreign country, especially where you do not understand the language being spoken, I would suggest the response of ignoring or shunning the incompetent imbecile (a.k.a. "policeman" in India).
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Personally, I'm quite glad that drinking alcohol is not allowed on trains.

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