Extra tickets for "private" compartment?

#1 Jan 18th, 2012, 15:48
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We are 2 people from London travelling together in February in 2AC (sometimes 1AC), and we'd really like to have our own compartment. I am asking for information on how to achieve this goal, not opinions or comments on whether you agree with this goal.

We are considering buying 4 tickets in 2AC even though we are only 2 people. If we buy 4 tickets together (2 upper, 2 lower), will they all be together in the same compartment? Will this prevent the train conductor from selling (again) the empty spaces?

Some of the compartments in the 2AC wagon (I think seats 1&2, and 44 & 43) are only for 2 people. Is it possible to reserve these specific compartments? Is it possible to buy a pet dog ticket, in order to be more likely to get these compartments? When I look at yatra or cleartrip, I don't see any pet tickets, and it looks like we cannot choose seat numbers).

Thank you for any advice or suggestions!
#2 Jan 19th, 2012, 09:40
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The TTE will see the two unoccupied seats as "no shows" and the tickets will be cancelled, and they will become available to other passengers. I know you don't want to entertain comments from posters, but I'm going to say anyway that if people are on a waiting list it is unfair to deny them seats if they are otherwise unoccupied, and that the TTE is only doing his job.

The various compartments in the bogey are so open anyway that you won't get much privacy during the day** - and if it's a busy train you may well get other passengers who will come & sit on the benches (which are way big enough for three side-by-side very comfortably, and even four). If you are concerned about privacy at night, then choose the side berths.


**Unless you draw the curtain across, and I have to say (having recently returned from a five-week trip to India with a lot of train travel) that really bugs me! We always book side berths, but it's nice to have daylight & to be able to see out windows on both sides of the aisle. Unless passengers are actually sleeping, I have to confess to opening the curtains on the opposite compartment!

By the way, we specified all our seat numbers for 2AC to ensure we got lower/upper side berths (all booked on Cleartrip).
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Iagree with HongKonger's comments regarding the TTE reallocating seats whether in 1AC or 2 AC

I've booked quite a few tickets through Cleartrip and never seen an opportunity to reserve specific berth numbers. You get the opportunity to request upper or lower etc but there is no guarantee that you will be allocated what you ask for. If you are planning on booking for February you might have difficulty booking 2 seats on many trains never mind 4. Factors like the Lower Berth Quota will work against you as a proportion of these are reserved for older passengers.

Don't bother trying to book through Yatra from the UK. You will get a long way through the process and then be told that they do not accept non-Indian credit cards.
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Side berths are, indeed, a way to achieve a kind of privacy, but there is absolutely no elbow room, in fact, in some ways it is like sitting in the corridor! There is also less room for baggage.

The two-berth-only compartments on 2AC carriages are fantastic. Heaps of privacy, heaps of space. How to get one? By winning the booking lottery! Mrs N and I have been lucky twice in the past few years, which, as we only travel once in most years is pretty good going!

I don't travel by train for the social life and can appreciate the desire
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Hi DaveW - Yes, I've been thinking about the seat numbers. Mr HKer was doing the booking & I remember him showing me the numbers after he booked - and assumed he'd requested them. But he just put in side upper & lower, and then the confirmation would give him actual numbers.

I know side berths aren't everyone's cup of tea, but it's good that they are not so popular as we are more likely to get our choice!

OP - another problem would be that you'd have to make up some names for the two extra seats. I assume the booking form won't let you repeat names, though I suppose you could just keep the family name & use other first names. It does seem awfully unfair, however.
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Thanks everyone for your comments so far.

Regarding the two-berth compartment Nick-H mentioned - from the 2AC layout map it looks like there's only one two-person compartment per wagon (43 & 44). Does anyone know how to buy a "pet" ticket online? I've heared that two people plus a pet makes it more likely to be allocated this compartment. Also, do M-F couples have a better shot at this compartment compared to 2 males?

I'd welcome any other opinions, but my initial impression is the side berths would be like sitting in the hallway (particularly in the daytime).

Regarding buying 4 tickets, I don't suppose our two invisible companions could always be temporarily away in the bathroom? This still doesn't solve the initial problem of getting for tickets together in the same compartment in the first place (you've got me worried with the reference to late-Feb trains being sold out already).

Thanks again for any information/suggestions.
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You have some information here. However these tickets can not be booked online. You will have to get them booked from the counter.
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Originally Posted by ckpager View Post This still doesn't solve the initial problem of getting for tickets together in the same compartment in the first place (you've got me worried with the reference to late-Feb trains being sold out already).
You haven't said which trains you want but I just looked up the main overnight train from Mumbai to Goa as an example. It is waitlisted in 1AC and 2AC every night from 19th Feb to 24th. On the 25th there is one 1AC berth available, on the 27th there is one 2AC available, 4th March four in 1AC then nothing until 10th March.
This is probably one of the earliest to fill but there are other popular tourist routes that won't be far behind.
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DaveW - where are you looking up this availability? We're looking at Udaipur-Jaipur (10:30pm 27Feb), Agra to Amristar (4:10pm 29Feb) in particular. Our other journeys aren't overnight so compartments aren't so critical (though we still need tickets!). By the way, on Agra to Amristar there's later and more attractive departures with train-changes in Delhi, but is it fair to say that even with an hour to change, it's a recipe for disaster given late train = missed connection? Thanks!
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You can look up all IR trains on this site.

http://www.indianrail.gov.in/index.html

Use train berth availability. It's a bit clumsy till you get the hang of it and you keep getting annoying pop ups. One caveat. Some of the trains this comes up with cannot be booked through Cleartrip.

I've done that overnight Udaiur - Jaipur trip. There is only one 2 berth coupe in 1AC. Actually 1 AC is waitlisted for your date. 8 berths in 2AC but you aren't in aposition to be choosy if you want that train.

Your Amritsar train has waitlist in 1AC and only 2 available in 2AC. An hour to change in Delhi is very tight.
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You can also check availability on www.erail.in if you are using Chrome or Firefox. Note: erail is not station specific. That is if you put station code as AGC (Agra Cantonment) it would check for trains from Agra Cantonment, Agra Fort and Agra City.

You could also check availability using 90di.com. Note: 90di is station specific. That is if you put station code as AGC (Agra Cantonment) it would check for trains from Agra Cantonment only.

Also keep in mind that the highest class normally has the lesser number of seats in a train. 1A will have lesser seats than 2A. 2A will have lesser seats than 3A and so on.
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Originally Posted by aarosh View Post You could also check availability using 90di.com. Note: 90di is station specific. That is if you put station code as AGC (Agra Cantonment) it would check for trains from Agra Cantonment only.
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90di serves both the purpose. If you put LKO as a code, it would search trains from and to LKO. If you instead type Lucknow, then it shall search for all the stations in the vicinity. (LKO/LJN)
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1ac

Buying 1AC for bnoth on the same tkt is your best bet.

Many trains have a 2-berth 1AC couple, which is allocated to tickets which specifically have only 2 ppl.

And even if its not allocated to u, u could always request the TT to help you out.

In 1AC, the TT does tend to be helpful.

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If the train is fully booked in 1AC I doubt that even the TTE could help. The allocation of berths is made before the train departs. Even MPs have problems getting 2 berth coupes. Last year we travelled from Kolkata to Delhi on the Sealdah Rajdhani and shared a 4 berth with an MP and his assistant. He was very cross at having to share but all of the 2 berths were occupied by other MPs.
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Originally Posted by serioussom View Post Buying 1AC for bnoth on the same tkt is your best bet.

Many trains have a 2-berth 1AC couple, which is allocated to tickets which specifically have only 2 ppl.

And even if its not allocated to u, u could always request the TT to help you out.

In 1AC, the TT does tend to be helpful.
I think anyone is best to ignore that post, each line will only give false hope.

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