Delhi and Agra by train from Goa and Indirail passes

#1 Feb 22nd, 2005, 02:01
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Anyone been brave enough to venture to Delhi and Agra this way? If so any info would be gratefully appreciated. Also has anyone used Indirail passes? Are they worth getting?
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Hi, leahandhannah!

I asked myself the very same question about the Indrail Pass before we set off, and I was lucky to find a whole host of posts about it -- and other aspects of train travel -- right here on Indiamike. Read everything, for a start, that steven_ber and Beach have written about trains (well, maybe not everything, as you'd still be reading as the plane left!). These guys, and a few others (like shimla) are the experts.

I think -- without trying to pre-guess their replies -- that the general consensus is that the pass isn't worth the extra money it costs, and that, unless you plan to do an inordinate amount of train travel, you'd be better off with point-to-point tickets. This is especially easy to arrange in Delhi, where the main foreigners ticket office is (near New Delhi Station). They have an area just for people like yourself, where you can sit and buy everything at once, and get advice about which train and which class would best suit your needs. We never for a minute regretted using this service, and it worked particularly well because we remembered advice found on this forum when booking overnight tickets: the best value is Class 3A, and the best berths are SL and SU. Specify these and I can't imagine you won't undercut the cost of the Indrail Pass by fifty percent.

You can. of course, check the prices you're going to pay for point-to-point by looking at http://www.indianrail.gov.in/. One bit of advice.... DON'T do all this the day before, especially for overnight or once-daily routes, as you may find that everything is full. Book your first journey from home over the net (the above site has a link to the booking office) and have the tickets waiting for you when you arrive. Then, as soon as you arrive, do the other bookings in person. with two or three days "grace" before the actual journey .

Good luck... and get right onto the threads at the top of this section("Knowing the Indian Train", etc)!
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Why does one have to be "brave" to try the Goa-Agra rail route??? Long distance train travel is a way of life in India.

You have a direct train - the Mangala Express - which covers the 2030 kms. distance in 31 and 1/2 hours.
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Hi leahandhannah & welcome to indiamike.com

There are many options available for a Delhi/Agra trip from Goa, to list all would take many hours, and considering that most would not be suitable or practical for you, it would be many hours wasted.

You make the same mistake that some other new members make, you ask a general question, when a more personalised reply is needed.
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I think the Indrail pass is the way to go, have a look at the following thread.

Is an Indrail pass worth the money?

By far the fastest and best (though most expensive) trains are the Rajdhani's.

The Trivandrum Rajdhani (train 2431) departs Madgaon (the main rail station for Goa) on Wednesdays & Fridays at 11:35 and gets to H. Nizamuddin (Delhi) the next day at 13:50.

The return Rajdhani (train 2432) departs Delhi on Tuesdays & Sundays at 11:00 and gets to Madgaon at 12:25 the following day.

You could take the train on Wednesday, arrive in Delhi on Thursday, have Friday looking around Delhi, Saturday looking around Agra, and then take the train back to Goa on Sunday, arriving back on Monday.

It works exactly the same if you take the Friday train there and the Tuesday train back.


Cost.

A 7-day Indrail pass in 2-tier air-conditioned carriages (2A) will cost US$135 (£71) (all meals on these trains are included in the price).

It could be argued that the trip could be done for half the price (and it can), if you took a slower train, 2 singles in 3-tier air conditioned carriages (3A) would only come to a total of £35 (no meals included in the price), but this way would have you on trains for a full extra day.

Also, (& a big also), the train tickets to & from Agra would cost nothing if you had an Indrail pass, you would have to pay for them separately if you took the cheaper option.


Train 2002 (Bhopal Shatabdi) departs New Delhi daily at 06:00 and gets to Agra Cant at 08:10.

Train 2001 departs Agra Cant daily at 20:40 and gets to New Delhi at 23:05.


Indrail passes are sold in the UK by S D Enterprises. (for the cost of the Indrail pass they will also book all 4 trains.)


Knowing the Indian Train. An excellent thread by beach explaining all you need to know about Indian trains.
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Talking

Thanks guys for your replies. Very useful info.
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Originally Posted by leahandhannah Thanks guys for your replies. Very useful info.
Do the suggested trains fit into your holiday Itinerary?

Are you on a charter flight? (2 weeks or 3?)

How do you feel about a trip to Delhi/Agra now you know the length of the journeys and cost?

Will you go to Delhi/Agra?


I ask because there are probably 10 times the number of Brits go to Goa on a charter flight than the number of Brits who go to other parts of India, many of these are probably wondering if they can fit Delhi/Agra into their holiday, the Delhi/Agra excursion offered by the charter companies are expensive, so many may be interested in the 'independent' route.

If you do take this route to Delhi/Agra, it would be very useful if you could post details/opinions when you return home.
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We are definitely going to go to Delhi and Agra. We are going to India for 2 weeks over Easter. We knew how long it would take and how much it would cost before we posted anything on this site, just wanted a few other travelling people's opinions. Been to India before so know what to expect. Will maybe post something after our trip. Cheers for advice etc
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Just one other thing... How easy is it to get to the railway stations in Goa from the resorts (baga)? Is it better to take a taxi or can you get a bus? Thanks
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Originally Posted by leahandhannah We knew how long it would take and how much it would cost before we posted anything on this site.
So I wasted 2 hours on researching and typing information that you already knew, it would have taken only 2 minutes for you to tell us that you knew this information.

I'm so glad I'm not a Travel agent.

Oh well, in for a penny, in for a pound.


Baga is about 42 Kms from Margao (Madgaon), you should be able to get a bus to Mapusa or Panjim (Panaji) and from any of these another bus to Margao, I would think that you would have to leave about 2 and a half hours to get from your hotel to the train station.

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I would imagine you've booked your hotel for the full 2 weeks (as normally happens with charter flights), so take advantage of this, try to get the hotel staff to organise a taxi to (& from) the train station, they should be happy that you will be away for 6 days as it will save them money, a taxi would also get rid of any uncertainty and save you from carrying your luggage.

About Rs500 would be a good price from your hotel to the train station, the driver may even get a tourist from the train station to take back to his area, try to get the same driver to meet you when you get back to Margao (write down his number plate), it will save a lot of hassle.

Enjoy your trip.
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flight to goa from delhi

Hi there,

we are planning to travel round the north of india for 1 month and then onto Goa. Can anyone tell me how much it will cost for a flight from delhi to Goa return?

Or if you can suggest another way of getting there?
Thanks very much
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del - goa- del flight is Rs. 8000.00 per person return which means around 190US$.
You can also take the Trivandrum rajdhani train no. 2431/2432 which is the fastest on the route AFAIK.
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Er, please note you're answering a thread from 2005.

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