Buying tickets under Foreign Tourist Quota---FTQ

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I know that tickets under FTQ must be paid for in FC (Foreign Currency) or in Indian currency, with proof (conversion receipt or ATM receipt) that Indian currency was purchased against foreign currency. How rigorously is it enforced?
In 2006 and less than a year ago, both times, returning from Dehradun to Delhi, there were no seats. So I approached a reservation supervisor at the train station for FTQ. In 2006, the supervisor wrote a note on my form and I bought the tickets with Rs while last year, the supervisor would not write anything on my form, but sent me to the line. While I w as waiting, she did come and say something to the booking clerk, it could have been something totally unrelated to my request. I bought the ticket with Rupees.


Now over the years, I have encashed close to a hundred thousand dollars in India, not all of which was spent there. Comnsequently, I have bank accounts and an ATM card. If I just withdrew money from an ATM, will that receipt be sufficient proof?
One account is an NRI account and the other an NRO account.
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They check only your ID, no check done for FC. This was the story at NDLS & CSTM in the past few years.
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Hi
Just this year i purchased a ticket from the Foreign Tourist office and asked if i should pay in $ and they said no and took RS from me no problem with the train ride.

No proof i just had the Rs with me and gave it to them just wanted my passport details for their office

In 2004 i purchased a ticket from the foreign tourist office and paid in $
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I have always retained ATM receipts, just in case they ask for proof. Once (I think in Kolkata), they did.
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i have a few more qs:
are the prices the same if purchased under FTQ, are there any additional charges?

is there a list of trains this quota is available for?

in bbay, do i have to go to CSTM, or can i talk to the station manager at one of the smaller stations... will they all have access to the same quota?


ps. am trying to get on a train tomorrow that leaves from a different station and trying to avoid a trip to CSTM
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Originally Posted by sbellam View Post i have a few more qs:
are the prices the same if purchased under FTQ, are there any additional charges?

is there a list of trains this quota is available for?

in bbay, do i have to go to CSTM, or can i talk to the station manager at one of the smaller stations... will they all have access to the same quota?


ps. am trying to get on a train tomorrow that leaves from a different station and trying to avoid a trip to CSTM
Prices are the same as normal prices under FTQ
Any train on which you can reserve a seat has FT quota.
At small stations, talk to the Station Master. In the Indian Railways, the Station Manager is called the Station Master.
At New Delhi Train Station there is a separate office. At some stations there is a separate counter/window for foreign tourists.
Bombay VT, also called CSTM, there is a separate window, but many years ago, when it was still called VT, we went to the Station Master.
Yes they all have access to the same quota.
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thanks for replying. luckily my tatkal WL got confirmed.

just one thing - there was not FT quota on the bbay-jodhpur train... looks like the quota is not on all trains. and in Bbay, had to go to churchgate or VT to do any FT booking.
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Originally Posted by sbellam View Post thanks for replying. luckily my tatkal WL got confirmed.

just one thing - there was not FT quota on the bbay-jodhpur train... looks like the quota is not on all trains. and in Bbay, had to go to churchgate or VT to do any FT booking.
Which trains was that? There is more than one train between Bombay and Jodhpur
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we looked at 4 or 5 trains including the popular suryanagri and ranakpur express. quota was avail on the bbay jaipur train though.
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Originally Posted by Yaatri View Post Any train on which you can reserve a seat has FT quota.
No, I don't believe this to be correct, which is probably why Sbellam ran into it not being available.

To my best knowledge, the quota is only available on certain trains (deemed to be touristically important, one assumes), and like other quotas gets distributed for those trains among stations along those lines, according to their importance. So meaning that the one station will be allotted more seats to distribute under the quota than another, and then others none at all. (And then the quota itself does or can get depleted, of course.)

So you will indeed far from always find it available to you, certainly not as soon as you divert from those routes, or don't travel by those main destinations along them. So it's a bit of an overrated thing, you'll often see it said "Oh just ask for the tourist quota (and presumably you'll be fine)," but it doesn't work like that. (Another thing is it can never hurt to ask to make sure, but the ticket clerk will generally know perfectly well what's available to you, and try and get you on there. So good chance they'd already thought of that.)

In terms of receipts btw, yes an ATM slip suffices, and like WonderWoman said, just keep a stack of them on you, it's not exactly excess luggage to carry around, and you never know when they may be asked for and so come in handy. I've certainly been asked for it and my passport when booking by the foreigners quota, in recent years, too, and perhaps on other occasions as well, can't think of an example now.

People should realize they can still be asked for when leaving the country, as well; you're technically required to show you've been paying for your own way in the country, so i.e. have been changing or withdrawing your own money. That it doesn't happen all the time doesn't mean it can't, and again, what's it to you to carry a bunch of them around (or bank exchange certificates, then, i.e., bank slips).

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Originally Posted by sbellam View Post in Bbay, had to go to churchgate or VT to do any FT booking.
Yes, that would have been because that's where Mumbai's tourist reservation counters are.

Come to think of it now and to wrap up the entire story then, I do in fact believe the foreign tourist quota (so insasmuch as it is at all available for your train(s) then) can only be booked from such tourist reservation counters at a few designated major railway stations across the country, anyway. One can of course book at (most) any station for any other route, but so to use the foreign tourist quota, it's at these that you'd need to do it, I think.

I'll gladly stand corrected on any of this.
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Mach, very nicely put!

FTQ (Foreign tourist quota) is not a magic wand for getting reservations for non-Indian nationals. As Mach said, it is available on specific trains and in specific classes in them.

Mumbai - Jodhpur is a classic example. You have total 9 trains connecting these 2 points, out of which 2 runs daily. And you've total 3 trains having 2 FTQ - all in SL class (non-AC).

16312 Bikaner Exp has 2 berths in SL (Sunday)
16508 Jodhpur Exp has 2 berths in SL (Tuesday & Thursday)
16534 Yesvantpur-Jodhpur Exp has 2 berths in SL (Monday)

Whereas, when I queried between Delhi & Jodhpur (part of Golden triangle tourist circuit), I got the following:

12461 Mandor Exp has 4 each in 2A, 3A & Sl (all days)
12463 RAJSTHN S KRANT has 4 each in 2A & SL (Wed, Fri & Sun)
14659 DLI JSM EXPRESS has 4 each in 2A, 3A & SL (all days)

Out of 3 trains, all 3 of them has tourist quota! So it'll depend on what route you're traveling, and what your class preferences are!
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Phew, thanks for the confirmation, Indra It's always hard to be absolutely sure about these things -- and then as you start jotting them down, you start to think but hm is it really like that, and...
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hello all,

http://www.indianrail.gov.in/seat_Avail.html
http://www.indianrail.gov.in/dont_Kn...tion_Code.html
shows FTQ availability, just select the appropriate quota when looking up availability.

ps. i think if you are in some small station where they do not know about FTQ but you know tickets under the quota from that station are available, you can insist on it. they will probably call somebody but eventually help you. and in the bigger cities, you might need to go to the specific reservation center that deals with FTQ.
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Originally Posted by sbellam View Post ps. i think if you are in some small station where they do not know about FTQ but you know tickets under the quota from that station are available, you can insist on it. they will probably call somebody but eventually help you. and in the bigger cities, you might need to go to the specific reservation center that deals with FTQ.
FTQ can be availed when booking at only large station that have a Foreign Tourist desk, not from any reservation counter. Just an example, no station in Goa has FTQ booking facility.

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