Availability "NOT AVAILABLE" - what does it mean?

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I'm familiar with IRCTC, and have booked dozens of tickets on that site (though it's still frustratingly unreliable).

But I'm trying to book the North east Express from NJP to MGS on Sunday 10 June 2007. Whether I select e-ticket or i-ticket, all I get in the Availability window is "NOT AVAILABLE", for every date. What does this mean? Sold out? Not yet within ARP? Or are neither e-tickets nor i-tickets available for this train?

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Originally Posted by Mickey S View Post I'm familiar with IRCTC, and have booked dozens of tickets on that site (though it's still frustratingly unreliable).

But I'm trying to book the North east Express from NJP to MGS on Sunday 10 June 2007. Whether I select e-ticket or i-ticket, all I get in the Availability window is "NOT AVAILABLE", for every date. What does this mean? Sold out? Not yet within ARP? Or are neither e-tickets nor i-tickets available for this train?

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Strange, have you checked that you're using the general quota?

(other quotas would return a "NOT AVAILABLE" message)
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I'll have a look in about 30 minutes and see if I can find out what the problem may be.
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The problem seems to be MGS as destination. I tried ALD and found WL5/1 in 2A.
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OK, quotas bloody quotas.

There seems to be no quota for anywhere east of NJP to anywhere short of Allahabad, all I could find was the following for this train....

The station before NJP is JPE (Jalpaiguri Rd), the station after MGS is ALD (Allahabad)

JPE to ALD on the North East Express for 10- Jun- 2007 has the following availability using e-tickets

2A = AVAILABLE- 0004

3A = AVAILABLE- 0004

SL = AVAILABLE- 0022

The TTE will not be checking tickets or berth availability between NJP and JPE, just make sure you meet the train as it arrives in NJP.

You'll pay a tiny bit extra for the fare to Allahabad, but you get the train of your choice. (and I can't find a decent alternative)
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What a damn frustrating website, I just done about 50 checks using different combinations without any problem, now I go to find the difference in fare I can only get a blank white screen even when I log in again.

Edited to add.....

NJP - MGS in 3A = RS 785
JPE - ALD in 3A = Rs 896
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Thank you, Steven. You're extremely helpful, as always.

IRCTC has had me tearing my hair out over the past couple of days; I've never had so many communication failures and failed payments.
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IRCTC has had me tearing my hair out over the past couple of days; I've never had so many communication failures and failed payments.
It's India's way of offering you a 'sense of achievement'.
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I have now successfully booked a 2AC from JPE to ALD, thereby allowing me to relax - my entire (very tight) itinerary for my forthcoming trip was resting on that connection!

Steven - you said that the TTE will not be checking tickets or berth availability between JPE and NJP. Can you be sure of that? My plan is to take the toy train from Darjeeling to pick up the North East Express at NJP, but perhaps I could play it safe and go by road directly to JPE. I wouldn't get to ride the toy train, but at least I'd be sure of a seat to Varanasi. What do you think?
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I don't know what time your train leaves NJP, but during my visit to Siliguri/Darjeeling in February, the Toy Train was ALWAYS between 1Hr30min and 2Hr30min late arriving in NJP. (I was there for 2 weeks)

So you might want to ride the Joy Train Darj to Ghum and back and then take the road down the hill!

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Originally Posted by SteamBuff View Post I don't know what time your train leaves NJP, but during my visit to Siliguri/Darjeeling in February, the Toy Train was ALWAYS between 1Hr30min and 2Hr30min late arriving in NJP.
I have to admit that, despite my experience of Indian trains, I had not really considered that a train that takes so long to cover such a short distance could be late! I have only half an hour between the scheduled arrival in NJP and the scheduled departure, so perhaps I'd better rethink my plans and forego the ride on the train. Unfortunately I was too late to get a seat on the train going to Darjeeling.

Thanks yet again! India is an everlasting learning curve... and I love it.
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OK the toy train is out, but have you considered the 'Joy Ride'?

You steal the engine from the train and race it up and down Darjeeling high street doing as many wheel spins and hand-brake turns as you can.

But seriously, there is a train called the Joy Ride, it can depart Darjeeling at 10:00, then go via the Batasia Loop to Ghoom and back, and you should be back in Darjeeling by 12:00.

I think there needs to be 6 passengers and I can't remember the cost (Rs200 per person rings a bell though), this train didn't used to be available in June though.

Hopefully others can tell you more about it.
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Originally Posted by Mickey S View Post Steven - you said that the TTE will not be checking tickets or berth availability between JPE and NJP. Can you be sure of that?
It's an extra 30kms or so to JPE and I'd just advise you to use NJP.

It's highly unlikely the seats/berths will be checked, there are a few busier stations between Guwahati and NJP, they may check after one of those, and they will check after NJP, but it just makes no sense to check between JPE and NJP, and in all the journeys I've been on in India, this hasn't happened.

If by some miracle they do check, then give you're berth to someone else (Extremely unlikely), then the 'dumb tourist routine' begins, "But I booked from NJP, the website is soooo confusing".

You'll be OK, don't worry.

I nearly got to ride the Darjeeling Himalayan Railway, I booked the Brahmaputra Mail from Delhi to Guwahati, but decided I'd get off at about 3 in the morning at NJP and go to Darjeeling, but as the train was going through West Bengal I got drunk with a couple of Indian Soldiers and slept right through NJP, I'll get there one day.
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The Joy Train (12D/14D) is Rs240 if purchased at Darjeeling, you can also book it through the Indian Railways Booking System (So the DHR web site says but there will be an additional booking fee if you do).

The DHR web site does not indicate if it runs in June or not ... but it also does not say it needs a minimum number.
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Dear Mickey,

Your observation:

"but perhaps I could play it safe and go by road directly to JPE."

##If possible, please go JPE and get into North East Express.

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