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Hi Guys ive booked 2 x AC1 tickets from Jaipur to Delhi by eticket Question is
Do I need to confirm my booking before I arrive at the station as its showing confirmed chart not prepared
thanks Sharon
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No need to "confirm", and no way to do that anyway!
With ALL First Class A/C bookings, the berth/seat allocation chart is not made up untill a few hours before the train departs.
Just turn up and find the 1st class coach. Your berth will be listed on a printed paper near the door, or just board and the ticket guy will tell you. Bit strange and confusing, but it does work!

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Originally Posted by OldandRambling View Post With ALL First Class A/C bookings, the berth/seat allocation chart is not made up untill a few hours before the train departs.

Bit strange and confusing, but it does work!
The 1AC has quota for VIPs and sidekicks of VIPs. If there are none traveling on that train, then it is released to next and that in factored into allocating berths.

The mythology and legacy of this is rather nasty. In yonder era, there were 1st, IInd and IIIrd class. There was no AC, and 1st was reserved for Sahibs, and IInd was for the retinue. If they did not show up, then people in wait list were given the berth. Since arrangements invariably were made by the assistants, the need to please them and the sahibs were paramount.
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Hi Sharon.
'Finding the 1st Class Coach'

Just an example below for one of the many Jaipur-Delhi trains...

https://etrain.info/in?TRAIN=51882#!TRAIN=12985

In the above case, you'd want the E1 coach - hover your mouse over the coaches to see what type they are.

Coach layout is also displayed on 'some' of the LCDs within the bigger train stations, can't remember about Jaipur though.

Anyway, find your train on the above website, note your coach position, then your not faffing about too much when it arrives. Wait for someone to slap the passenger list to the train (near the door), check your name - along with seat/berth/or cabin etc. Thats it
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One more "tip" is to get a porter to carry your bags, they will know where the 1st class on each train should be.


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Usually 1AC is the 3rd or 4th coach from the engine.
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I think on most Indian trains, the coaching stock for each train is simply shunted from one end of the route to the other and back again, without being "turned". This means that in one direction the AC1 might be 3 from the engine, but in the other direction it will be 3 from the rear of the train.

Sharon, if you can let us know the train number you have booked (no other details required) we can help pinpoint your coach position for you.
(Some of us need to get a life, that is true... )

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Thanks for this guys this is so helpful my train number is Ashram express 12915 I do intend to get a porter as the second traveller is my 8yr old grand daughter So I will be needing to hold her hand not our suit cases ....
Another problem I have is how do I know who to trust once I get off at Delhi station I need a porter then a short taxi ride to hotel balaji After all I've read about the station it has me more than concerned
thanks again all
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Hi again thanks Spud the reason I chose the Ashram express is that my grand daughter could lay down and sleep instead of sitting all the way but thanks
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Originally Posted by ssharonuk View Post Thanks for this guys this is so helpful my train number is Ashram express 12915 I do intend to get a porter as the second traveller is my 8yr old grand daughter So I will be needing to hold her hand not our suit cases ....
Another problem I have is how do I know who to trust once I get off at Delhi station I need a porter then a short taxi ride to hotel balaji After all I've read about the station it has me more than concerned
thanks again all
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Hi Sharon,

I take my hat off to you visiting with your grand daughter, should be such fun!
Your 1st class accommodation is in a coach which has ac2 at one end, and the ac1 at the other. It is known as a HA1 type coach, and is used where demand for 1st class would not fill a regular 1st class coach. With luck, you may have the 2 person "coupe" to yourselves.
The Ashram Express has 24 coaches, and your coach should be 4th from the REAR. An overhead coach position indicator, if provided, would show HA1 as the thing to look out for.

Your train arrives at Old Delhi, I do not have much experience with that. It is a beautiful building though!

Porters will always try to overcharge you. I was asked Rs. 400 at New Delhi station for carrying two bags. He came down to Rs. 200 but had annoyed me so much by this time that I just carried them myself. If you pay Rs 100 per heavy bag, that seems fair with foreigners suppliment. You have to decide the balance between negotiating a fair amount and a quicker exit from the station! The porters will jump aboard the train as it arrives, you do not need to "find" a porter, they will certainly find you and offer their services.

Porters will then try and steer you to one of their mates, taxi or auto tout. None of this is a danger, except to your wallet, and having a youngster with you will no doubt lead to better, more gentle treatment.

At the end of the day, you should ask to be taken to the pre-pay taxi booth, insist on this, and you will be charged the correct fare. Go with a tout, and you may pay double, which will probably amount to just a few quid anyway.
I did take an auto rickshaw last year from Old Delhi station to the New Delhi one, near your hotel, but I can't recall what I paid. I think a taxi should cost around Rs. 200 to Rs. 300, maybe others will know better?

Don't worry about the station, just keep your grand daughter and other valuables close, and don't get distracted by anything outside your objective for taxi to hotel!

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Wheely bags have freed us from porter tyranny!

But, as you say, having a hand for your daughter is more important than being relieved of a few hundred Rs. A good (or make it clear that this is part of the deal) porter will not only go straight to the coach, but find your seat and put your luggage there.

You may have to walk the whole length of the train anyway (and Indian trains are looooong!) but better to do it in certainty than in doubt. Those not familiar with the coaches and their nomenclature might have to walk there and back! Pay the porter to do away with such worries

(Paying the porter is also absolutely necessary at intermediate stops where the train pauses for barely enough time to walk to the next carriage. If there are displays, then fine. If not, a porter is the only way to be sure of having the right carriage door stopping right by you. It's not only the price of peace of mind, it might be the price of even getting on the train!)
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Thanks again Guys im not new to India but never to Delhi or Rajasthan so all is new and yes my grand daughter will love it and me even more so watching her smile
Still Delhi is giving me the creeps but hey ho wait and see
Sharon
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The week before last it was an attack on the lungs.

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