The Story of Mango

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I am sure the 'OP' shares this sentiment..

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Legendary Urdu poet Mirza Asadullah Khan Ghalib was a mango aficionado too; he despised people who didnít share his addiction for the fruit.
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On Ghalib and mangoes there is an old story about a guy who was visiting Ghalib and a donkey came along, sniffed at a roadside mango peel and shrank back.*

(The original story I know is in urdu, but here goes.)

Look, said Ghalib's visitor, even donkeys don't eat mangoes.
Yes, said Ghalib, it is true that donkey's don't eat mangoes.

There is another story about mangoes, Zafar and Ghalib but I cannot translate the couplet therein easily. And another one with Ghalib's masnavi but google dar sifat e ambaa, I think you will get that there.


*all the stories courtesy my long deceased grandfather, a professor of English and a lover of Urdu. I was a favourite too.
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Originally Posted by capt_mahajan View Post On Ghalib and mangoes there is an old story about a guy who was visiting Ghalib and a donkey came along, sniffed at a roadside mango peel and shrank back.*

(The original story I know is in urdu, but here goes.)

Look, said Ghalib's visitor, even donkeys don't eat mangoes.
Yes, said Ghalib, it is true that donkey's don't eat mangoes.

There is another story about mangoes, Zafar and Ghalib but I cannot translate the couplet therein easily. And another one with Ghalib's masnavi but google dar sifat e ambaa, I think you will get that there.


*all the stories courtesy my long deceased grandfather, a professor of English and a lover of Urdu. I was a favourite too.

From what I have heard, up to a generation or so ago Urdu used to be taught in schools in several northern states irrespective of religion . Especially in the UP region..My friends father who is hindu can read and write Urdu.


However after partition it is now the official language of Pakistan. The interesting bit is that it is alien to the original inhabitants of the region and was introduced during partition due to migration.

My 2 colleagues ( one from Pakistan and another from Indian Punjab)/talk in Punjabi if they don't want their non Punjabi colleagues to understand ..( usually gossip )
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dunno about the one generation bit, but yes, Urdu was widely used and taught in quite a few north indian states till not so long ago. As a child, I remember seeing many ads- the type painted on small town and village walls etc- driving through States like Punjab.

Sometimes we forget Lahore to Amritsar is just 50km by road, approximately as much as one end of Bombay to the other. Or is it as the crow flies? I forget.
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My father was taught Urdu in our little village Govindpuri in UP. He used to read Urdu news paper. He was born pre-partition.

I learned Sanskrit in school till year 12. I just wish I learned Urdu instead.
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You can read about the shift from Urdu to Hindi in the United Provinces here:

http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/p...king/king.html

Urdu was the official language in (East) Punjab till states reorganisation in 1956, when PEPSU became part of Punjab. That's when Punjabi and Hindi were introduced in the parts that became Punjab and Haryana (or were added to Himachal Pradesh) respectively in 1966.

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