High-tech bribes.

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India is officially high tech.

I was sitting at a chai stall on a road leading to the Taj Mahal. There is a small access road going into the gallis nearby. The policeman at the checkpoint nearby would wave some bikes through, but for others he would wave his stick in the air and they would pull off the road. The bike driver would pull out his phone and the officer does the same. A few seconds later the bike continued on his way.
After I watched about five bikes do this, I asked the chai wallah what is happening. He said that they stop before the cameras and make a digital payment to the policeman to gain access.

The wonders of the digital era never ceases to amaze.
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Those e-transactions are traceable. Cash is not !
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True. It seems pretty obvious, and the locals are aware of it and not shy about discussing it. This means that he is soon to get caught, or he is not the least concerned with getting caught.
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Originally Posted by nycank View Post Those e-transactions are traceable. Cash is not !
Would you or I quit our jobs/lifestyle and go around tracing them? Build a case? Fight in courts? Say, to get 6 months jail for the policeman? Sorry, I'm out. I have better things to do in life. To hell with the bribe at Taj Mahal.
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Originally Posted by iamgorman View Post True. It seems pretty obvious, and the locals are aware of it and not shy about discussing it. This means that he is soon to get caught, or he is not the least concerned with getting caught.
No sir! It means shit! Do you think locals are doing all legal stuff. What about the shantis and tea stalls that come up around ASI protected property? What about the electricity they steal from the overhead high tension lines? What about the waste disposal practices? What about the autorickshaw drivers not having 4-5 types of insurances as dictated in the Motor Vehicle Act? What about the child labor that is employed across any tourist destination?

In that position would you make a formal complaint against the policeman? Of course, he is least concerned. It also stems from his ignorance of the fact that the day the policeman meets an honorary man who is willing to go the distance, the policeman is screwed. It does happen but rarely.
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Originally Posted by blackfog View Post It does happen but rarely.
It is the chota-mota (small-timer) who gets caught! They big fish go vacation in London unless you are boss of D-company, then you head to Dubai
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Originally Posted by blackfog View Post Would you or I quit our jobs/lifestyle and go around tracing them? Build a case? Fight in courts? Say, to get 6 months jail for the policeman? Sorry, I'm out. I have better things to do in life. To hell with the bribe at Taj Mahal.

No sir! It means shit! Do you think locals are doing all legal stuff. What about the shantis and tea stalls that come up around ASI protected property? What about the electricity they steal from the overhead high tension lines? What about the waste disposal practices? What about the autorickshaw drivers not having 4-5 types of insurances as dictated in the Motor Vehicle Act? What about the child labor that is employed across any tourist destination?

In that position would you make a formal complaint against the policeman? Of course, he is least concerned. It also stems from his ignorance of the fact that the day the policeman meets an honorary man who is willing to go the distance, the policeman is screwed. It does happen but rarely.
Relax. I'm not oblivious to corruption and I'm not advocating s campaign. Simply found it interesting that digital payment was used.
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High-tech bribes.

I haven't put a "fine" into a policeman's band for a long time, but it is all electronic these days. Must have really reduced some peoples' incomes.

In general, though, Blackfog tells it as it is... Because that's what he sees.

(I do try to drive without incurring "fines" anyway, of course!)
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Scanned documents, documents like licence, registration etc in Digilocker to be shown when required, legal cash transfer in form of fines.

There are so many possibilities, digital bribe is the last thing to be considered. The chaiwala just says what he has grown seeing.
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Can't call this high tech, but just to give an idea of how things have changed:
A civil servant from Bihar, working with India's largest organisation in terms of employees, recently wanted me to do something for him, in return of finalising a contract, which was his duty anyways. I tried to play the innocent kid & further asked him, as to what & how he wants me to do something for him. His reply was that, I had to purchase a Royal Enfield bike, in name of some Kumar in Patna,Bihar, & then get it delivered to someone who would contact me later.

I told him to get lost & keep the contract with him, which he anyways handed me 2 months later. Nothing high tech here, but just to say that the modus operandi of bribing has changed, & people these days try & seek newer methods where direct cash changing hands is minimal.
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Originally Posted by style_guru View Post Nothing high tech here, but just to say that the modus operandi of bribing has changed, & people these days try & seek newer methods where direct cash changing hands is minimal.
Nothing new, this is an age old method. Giving gifts to someone else, buying in others name to get the contract passed and so on. This was specially prevalent in sensitive sectors and where the stakes were high.
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In Indonesia some friends were setting up a business and there was a 5% partner that I didn't know. They said its the dictator's daughter. After a couple of minutes silence we proceeded as if nothing had been said..
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Originally Posted by edwardseco View Post In Indonesia some friends were setting up a business and there was a 5% partner that I didn't know. They said its the dictator's daughter. After a couple of minutes silence we proceeded as if nothing had been said..
The mother was popularly known as Ibu Ten Percent so you must have been getting a special rate.
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We were small fry so probably weren't worth the effort..

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