Shimla and golden triangle itinerary - 2 weeks or so

#1 Jan 19th, 2019, 17:30
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Hello,

I've been going over my itinerary plans for India in November and wanted to know if this is realistic to cover in 2 weeks, or if it's too fast paced and we should cut something. I've not yet checked that trains go to all these places so we might need a bus or something, not sure if Pushkar has a station or not etc.

We'll likely fly in on the 1st and out on the 17th or so, so for now I am counting on 14 full days in the country but it could be slightly more, maybe a day less depending on how our flight times work.

Overall plan: Delhi > Kalka > Shimla > Agra > Jaipur > Pushkar > Jodhpur > Udaipur > Delhi

Land in Delhi (1 night)
Train to Kalka then on to Shimla (2 nights)
Train to Agra - presume via Delhi (1 night)
Train to Jaipur (2 nights)
Train to Pushkar (2 nights)
Train to Jodhpur (2 nights)
Train to Udaipur (2 nights)
Fly back to Delhi (1 night)

Delhi is mostly going to be a start/end point but we would like to fit a cooking class in. Shimla is my mums priority but i don't know how long we need there, but obviously need to account for the long journey each way. Agra we plan to arrive to see the Taj at sunset, sunrise in the morning and then go again. Jaipur we would like to see the markets etc, not overly interested in seeing lots of history. Pushkar for the camel fair as that has been on my bucket list for a long time, possibly a camel safari too as we won't have time for Jaisalmer. Jodhpur as the blue city looks really interesting and different. Udaipur for some time around the lakes and fly back into Delhi the night before our flight home.

Does this sound realistic for a) time in each place b) the pace between destinations when I am yet to check train times and know there could be a lot of time on trains cutting into our time at these destinations?

My mum is still freaking out about me planning this as a DIY train trip for the two of us solo. I don't know how to reassure her about safety, she has spoken to people from work who say we need to be very very careful doing this ourselves. Are there any places that are more of a concern than others that I should be mindful of?

thanks in advance!
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There is no need to be fearful about your safety, just exercise normal precautions as you would in a strange city at home...

Have you thought of booking an "organised" tour of the Golden Triangle, and simply add on a few days either before or after to visit Shimla via the toy train?

Some tours are priced to begin and end in India, so you may book your own flights and any extra places to visit independently quite easily, this may satisfy both your mum and yourself?

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Smile

Yes i thought about it but prefer to organise my own travel. If there is no safety reason not to I would rather do that. Just need to figure out what we can fit into our 2 weeks now.

Flight lands early hours of 2nd Nov so thinking of an airport hotel. (We land 2:40am) and then train to kalka and on to shimla in the morning. Just need to figure out how to connect the dots.

Just need to figure out if we can realistically see all those places in our timeframe. Return is morning of 17th so gives us 15 full days before a night in delhi reasy to fly back on the 17th.
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Seven destinations in 15 days is not realistic, you are constant moving and have hardly time to see anything.
Since Shimla and Agra are priorities you need to cut in the Rajastan destinations.

The camel market in Pushkar is very crowded, I think it is safe but it may be uncomfortable so skip it.

If you want a relaxed journey just include Jaipur.
A little more adventurous is train to Udaipur after Agra.
By car/bus to Jodhpur (there is no train), en route visit Ranakpur temple.
From Jodhpur fly or train to Delhi.
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What if we dropped udaipur and flew back from Jodhpur? The camel fair is one of the top things on my list so dont really want to drop that one.
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Trying to figure the best logical order out of the following too:

Delhi > Kalka/Shimla > Agra > Jaipur > Pushkar > Jodhpur and/or Udaipur > Delhi
or
Delhi > Agra > Jaipur > Pushkar > Jodhpur and/or Udaipur > Kalka/Shimla > Delhi
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Delhi > Jodhpur and/or Udaipur > Pushkar > Jaipur > Agra > Kalka/Shimla > Delhi
#7 Jan 20th, 2019, 03:13
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Too much stuff.

Camel fair essential.

Dump Agra (I know, I know, but dump it anyway).
Walt Whitman - Song of Myself

Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)
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how about this

fly into delhi, quick nap 1 night by the airport and fly to Udaipur next morning, 2 nights there. Driver to pushkar, 2 nights. Driver to Jaipur, 2 nights. Train to Agra to see it for sunset stay 1 night and leave in the morning and travel on to Shimla, if we get to delhi fairly early i feel like we could get to Shimla before dark, 2 nights in shimla, then quickest journey back to Delhi, happy to skip Delhi and either stay in the city or by the airport 1 night before we go home.

So thats a total of 11 nights
We will have 16 nights so can slow this down as we land at around 2am on the 2nd Nov and fly back out on the 17th nov. I've seen people do the rajasthan section in less time, is this really going to be too rushed to do the above across 16 nights?
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If your budget allows you to hire a car then maybe a travel agence can help you out.
We, and other members were very satisfied with the services of Namaste.

They organize trips to Rajasthan and Shimla. Mail them your plans and see what they offer.
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Everyone's travel style is different, so what seems reasonable to one person is quite out of the question to the next!

I think you would be best able to see what to plan to suit yourselves by examining what is actually physically possible, by looking at train timetables and flight times, etc?

If you want to go by train to Shimla from Delhi, for example, the main options are an overnight sleeper train from Old Delhi at 21.30, arriving at Kalka 04.40, which connects to the scenic toy train departing Kalka at 05.45, arriving Shimla at 10.35.
The other main option is the fast train from New Delhi at 07.40 to Kalka, arriving 11.45, which connects to the 12.10 Kalka departure, which arrives at Shimla at 17.30 the same day.

If you expect to travel by train, I would advise you to get registered to buy train tickets soon, sadly the registration process in itself can be problematic.

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Thanks old and rambling - this is exactly what i did last night, a mock route to plan the day by day itinerary with trains etc. Ill post it on here later to see what you guys think.

We donít mind a fast paced trip but obviously want it to be comfortable. I did see that overnight sleeper as one of our options and have been reading man in seat 61.

Good to know about Namaste too. Iíd like to travel by train where possible but weíll definitely need to find a good driver for the udaipur to jaipur leg.

Iíll keep on researching and come back with a more detailed itinerary for critique!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hfot2 View Post Dump Agra (I know, I know, but dump it anyway).
Stay in Bharatpur and see sights of Agra?
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Maybe this option will work
-Start with Shimla
-After that drive to Chandigarh and take a (one-stop) flight to Udaipur such as the Jet Airways flight of 15.55
-Plan you Rajasthan leg, ending with Agra.
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I will expand later, touring the South at present, Jan 2019, but PLEASE donít dump Agra. Itís easy to fit in and a place you will always regret not going to. I am English and arranged my own tour of the north and south and can help you. You will feel perfectly safe amongst the locals, they are really friendly. Tuktuk sand Taxis are your friends, trains are good for loooong distance if pre booked, sleepers are a last resort.

Contact me, if you wish directly, I will give you my email and can really help you as Iíve done the same route, and more on my own last year. Let me know if you want email. Itís a fantastic journey and not difficult to plan with help, but really donít underestimate travelling times. Contact me for genuine, free advice.

Phil
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Hi Phil,

I am hoping that you will be encouraged to write up both your experiences in the north, and your current trip in the south, for us all to see.

I like to read about other folks trips, and all their experiences, both good and bad.

I would encourage more visitors to make use of the indiamike "journals" pages, an often overlooked facility here.

Taking this opportunity to give a shout out to kathill's interesting post there:

https://www.indiamike.com/india/jour...owentry&e=1433

Happy travels, and trip reports...

Ed

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