Real India ?

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I often read posters indicating they're keen on visiting 'real india'. There's no particular segment that indicates that - just independent travelers more than families.

What, according to you, is this 'real india' being mentioned?

Am genuinely curious.
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Going full on philosophical today, eh?

Reality by definition is what one can see, feel and what exists, rather than just being an idea or a notion. So real india would just be any part of india where they can see good sights, feel and probably live the local life for some time. It should be away from the generalist notion of india, which is poor, colourful, boisterous, highly populated etal...

What they mean may actually be opposite, that they want to go to any place in india like say varanasi, rajasthan etc, which would conform to their pre-conceived notions of india, which may vary from person to person...

Hope i am successful in making you more confused than curious...

To conclude, My reality is not your reality. So, choose your reality and don't impose the same on me...
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For me, the "real India" lies in tribal society.
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Originally Posted by pink vagabond View Post To conclude, My reality is not your reality.
Or, more pertinently, my "real" perception is different from yours. It probably would be impossible to define the 'real' India since deviations, in culture, food, language, habits, thoughts, income, education, upbringing, economic and social status etc, are so vast that no sample would ever be representative of the population.

So in the end, it just boils down to what my perception about the 'real' India is.
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To me all of India is”real” ,from the affluent middle classes to the skint day labourer ,from the cities to the villages. It will certainly be “real” to the people living their lives.
Many years ago I met a guy who was “Doing the real India on 100 rupees a day, man”. Tosser, he didn’t look to happy either.
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I think when discussing general 'ferengi' travelers, what they mean is non-touristic. There are others that mean off the grid and some that mean 'shoestring'.

So small villages, religious sites, busy cities.

I.e not Goa, Varkala or Hampi!

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I agree with lismoresimon23, it's all the "real India" to me.

I've stayed in 4/5 star hotels (certainly not many in 13 yrs but a few) and also $10/night guesthouses in Tamil Nadu. I hired a driver for a month thru Rajasthan but have also done long bus rides and train trips with only a backpack. And sometimes no backpack on the back of a motorcycle. I've certainly been to the temple cities in Tamil Nadu more than once and a rural village outside Pondicherry where a toilet in the room I was staying (that's a long story how I got there! ) wasn't even attached to the floor. I got pulled off the street and inside a school in Madurai to help them celebrate their Pongal. On another trip I spent 48 hrs with the son of a famous old Bollywood director whom I met randomly in Mahabalipuram and listened to his stories of old Bollywood, how his mother played with Ravi Shankar, and looked thru all his old photos of famous people (including the Beatles) which would probably be worth millions at auction yet they were in dusty cardboard boxes.

So I don't know -- which trip was the "real India"?

I discounted Goa for many years as too touristy but I went last year and fell in love (I don't count the 5 days I was in Candolim in 2013, too short of a time.) I can't wait to get back.

Being solo I explored on my own taking the non-tourist advice of those who live there (I don't mean in a beach hut.) Then when I got to Panjim I met someone who showed me both tourist spots and non-tourist places.

Sometimes a luxury room with a bathtub and a gin n tonic can be a good thing. I'm not going to say no to that because it might not be the "real India" of dust and sadhus and painted elephants.
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If you are a firingi, then real India changes to a distorted India as you approach it, and changes back as you leave. You can never, ever see the real India.
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Not a month goes by, that I encounter someone or the other, mostly fireners comment "...I want to see real New York" or "I want to see real America..."

It so happened that a day before my current trip, I was at one of my local dives, near the laundromat , where my dirty clothes were in the washer and this trio were asking the bartender the same thing in a roundabout way. So I said, Want a real quick glimpse ?

I walked them to the laundromat, and moved my clothes from washer to the dryer, went to the bodega next door and get a bag of junk-food, and came back to the dive. I knew they were POed.

Come to think of it - I never had any Japanese, or cis-asian ever ask such question. It must be an Akeli Duniya tribal phenomena These people have more information on their handset and less than half the knowledge of a 9th standard CBSE student from my era




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Its perspective. I met a couple of foren Rajneeshis at the airport in Bombay. We chatted a bit. It struck me they had made their headgear out of men's white underwear dyed orange. I blurted out that they should get to see the real India, live with ordinary Indian families, stay in a village or two for a couple of nights, yada yada. They answered that where they were going in Poona was the real India. I was nonplussed. But, then I realized that I was talking to guys wearing underwear on their head and burst into uncontrolled laughter and left the airport to catch the Deccan Queen..
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Originally Posted by nycank View Post Not a month goes by, that I encounter someone or the other, mostly fireners comment "...I want to see real New York" or "I want to see real America..."

It so happened that a day before my current trip, I was at one of my local dives, near the laundromat , where my dirty clothes were in the washer and this trio were asking the bartender the same thing in a roundabout way. So I said, Want a real quick glimpse ?

I walked them to the laundromat, and moved my clothes from washer to the dryer, went to the bodega next door and get a bag of junk-food, and came back to the dive. I knew they were POed.

Come to think of it - I never had any Japanese, or cis-asian ever ask such question. It must be an Akeli Duniya tribal phenomena These people have more information on their handset and less than half the knowledge of a 9th standard CBSE student from my era




{ Yes, Dorothy not all newyorkers have Washer&Dryer in their apartment or building}

[ Akeli Duniya= Lonely Planet ]

I guess the guys were expecting to be shown the real America by a cowboy, rather than...


I think most people associate "the real experience" with a small town or village, where things have not changed much over the years. India is so different to anywhere else I have visited, that just standing still for more that 5 minutes brings a feast of new sights, sounds and experiences, all real.

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Originally Posted by OldandRambling View Post I guess the guys were expecting to be shown the real America by a cowboy, rather than...


I think most people associate "the real experience" with a small town or village, where things have not changed much over the years. India is so different to anywhere else I have visited, that just standing still for more that 5 minutes brings a feast of new sights, sounds and experiences, all real.

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I think most people associate "the real experience" with a small town or village, where things have not changed much over the years.

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Like when the fresher member of the panchayat, pisses of his porch onto his neighbors roof, with a "They're not good people" and a shrug.
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Originally Posted by nycank View Post Yes, Dorothy not all newyorkers have Washer&Dryer in their apartment or building
I always thought the NY apts were too small to have a W&D in the apt!

yup, what you said. same same but different re Chicago. Thank goodness most are too young anymore to ask me about Al Capone.

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